Vega's Perfect Motion Clarity 2D Lightboost Titan Portrait Surround Gloss Build

shedokan said:
Why did u turn Red so low? It makes it so dark due to LB 10% :O

Lol what a beastly psu
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Crimson tint fix for Lightboost. Those settings are for LB only.


On another note:

Got the NEX1500 PSU up and running, gonna put it through its paces. At first, got everything hooked up and "whirl-stop", nothing happens. I thought oh crapola, DOA PSU. Did some troubleshooting and found out one of the SATA power cables must have a short in it. Switched it out for another cable and it works. We will see if EVGA ships out a replacement cable. At least the short-protection on the PSU works and prevents it from powering up.

Then just for kicks I set the DIP switch on 100% fan on to see what it is like. Holy mother of Toledo, I thought someone had turned on a full size home vacuum cleaner on right next to me. :eek:

I thought the reviewers were just embellishing when they said the fan was loud. At 100%, it is just absurd. Now weather under load with regular PWM control and forcing the speed down controls the noise, we shall see. If the software cannot control the fan properly, the PSU will have to be returned or the internal fan modified/replaced. Not sure how such a fan got past even stage 1 of designing this PSU. On water cooled machines, the PSU is usually the only thing that must have a fan and be air cooled. So having a quiet PSU is actually one of the most desirably traits of any component. :eek:
 
Vega sorry to hear that you gave your baby up for adoption, I know how tough that can be as a fellow man of international mystery myself, the perils between dividing your time for saving the world and watching barney the dinosaur can get really tight. Anyway, since it was epic systems versus a spare mouth to feed I must say you choose wisely!

No all we need is 5x1 support from Nvidia!!!!!




Which will never, ever happen :mad:
 
Is the brightness fine for you in games that way? Lowering the red channel rly make it dim
 
l88bastard said:
Vega sorry to hear that you gave your baby up for adoption, I know how tough that can be as a fellow man of international mystery myself, the perils between dividing your time for saving the world and watching barney the dinosaur can get really tight. Anyway, since it was epic systems versus a spare mouth to feed I must say you choose wisely!

No all we need is 5x1 support from Nvidia!!!!!




Which will never, ever happen :mad:
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Titan's > Baby. I wish him the best in life.

shedokan said:
Is the brightness fine for you in games that way? Lowering the red channel rly make it dim
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Eh, are you adjusting the red slider by itself? Adjusting the red brightness shouldn't alter the overall screen brightness much.
 
Setting the brightness down to 32 obviously makes it less bright no? lol and with LB at 10
in general it gets dark
 
It makes the red channel less bright, the whole point of adjusting the red scale to get rid of the crimson tint. I don't have my colorometer hooked up, but the overall screen brightness barely changes on my setup. If you don't like correcting for the crimson tint, don't adjust it?
 
Surround test results are in...


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Scaling in Skyrim, Witcher 2, Metro and FarCry3 is pretty good. Coming in the 40-45% range with 50% being perfect scaling. Although, Valley 1.0 and Battlefield 3 scaling fared worse, in the 20-30% range. Not sure if it is an SLI profile issue or something else. I checked to make sure I was not CPU nor PCI-E limited, which I was not.

Playing beautiful FarCry 3 at 113 FPS on 3x 120 Hz Portrait Lightboost Surround with all settings maxed is pretty epic. :wheee:
 
Vega said:
Crimson tint fix for Lightboost. Those settings are for LB only.
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It bear worth noting that the crimson fix only is needed for some displays. My VG278H didn't need it, but the BENQ XL2411T needed it.

I think it's a factory pre-calibration to compensate for nVidia 3D Glasses (which adds probably a very faint greenish tint). That hurts the picture when we're using it for LightBoost 2D when we're not doing sterescopic 3D.

With all this equipment, Vega can certainly afford a Spyder4 or X-Rite i1 or similar colorimeter to calibrate the LightBoost display to far better color. Slap the color sensor on the monitor, press a button in a calibration app, and an automatic calibration software app does the magic, and your monitor's now calibrated. Easy. Highly recommended for LightBoost use, by pcmonitors.info, TFTCentral, and 3D Vision Blog tests of LightBoost calibration.
 
Mark Rejhon said:
It bear worth noting that the crimson fix only is needed for some displays. My VG278H didn't need it, but the BENQ XL2411T needed it.

I think it's a factory pre-calibration to compensate for nVidia 3D Glasses (which adds probably a very faint greenish tint). That hurts the picture when we're using it for LightBoost 2D when we're not doing sterescopic 3D.

With all this equipment, Vega can certainly afford a Spyder4 or X-Rite i1 or similar colorimeter to calibrate the LightBoost display to far better color. Slap the color sensor on the monitor, press a button in a calibration app, and an automatic calibration software app does the magic, and your monitor's now calibrated. Easy. Highly recommended for LightBoost use, by pcmonitors.info, TFTCentral, and 3D Vision Blog tests of LightBoost calibration.
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Yes, I have a calorimeter. As for the crimson tint, I haven't found a 1ms LB monitor that doesn't have it. I am only referring to those.
 
An update on the EVGA NEX 1500-PSU, seems it handles the power requirement well and the fan barely breaks 30% speed. This makes it really quiet. Not even sure why they have that 100% fan setting, maybe if you bench in Bahgdad in the summer or something. ;) Overall pretty pleased as the build quality (at least on the exterior) is quite high and the monitoring software is neat to bounce off my wall power meter.
 
Nice work as usual - FYI the CPU-380 would give you slightly better temps if you rotated it 90 degrees, but then maybe it would make your tubing routing harder. Concerned about that pump too. Only one D5 for all of that in series in one loop or am I misunderstanding? I thought you had an Iwaki?
 
stren said:
Nice work as usual - FYI the CPU-380 would give you slightly better temps if you rotated it 90 degrees, but then maybe it would make your tubing routing harder. Concerned about that pump too. Only one D5 for all of that in series in one loop or am I misunderstanding? I thought you had an Iwaki?
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It is the Aquacomputer D5 in series with the XSPC reservoir X2O 750 pump.

As for the CPU-380i, the only reference I could find is this:

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/koolance-cpu-380i-waterblock/8/

Stating that the ports perpendicular to the memory ports which I made sure to set up is the best. It wouldn't make sense for Koolance to design the logo etc not to face as you read it in a normal mounted MB in a case. You are implying that the ports be parallel to the memory ports and the Koolance writing at a 90 deg angle as you would read it in a normal vertical case mounting configuration?
 
Vega said:
It is the Aquacomputer D5 in series with the XSPC reservoir X2O 750 pump.

As for the CPU-380i, the only reference I could find is this:

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/koolance-cpu-380i-waterblock/8/

Stating that the ports perpendicular to the memory ports which I made sure to set up is the best. It wouldn't make sense for Koolance to design the logo etc not to face as you read it in a normal mounted MB in a case. You are implying that the ports be parallel to the memory ports and the Koolance writing at a 90 deg angle as you would read it in a normal vertical case mounting configuration?
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I see - well at least you have a 2nd pump, I'd still think it's low on the flow side, but I know you're plenty experienced so I'll butt out ;)

PureOC tested on a 2600K, I tested on a 3930K, it's perfectly possible that the 2600K prefers a different orientation than our chips, though it would have been nice for them to post the results of both orientations. Here's my data:

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If you want to see more on my data: http://www.xtremerigs.net/reviews/water-cooling/2012-cpu-water-block-roundup/
 
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I forgot to add - it was good to see your scaling data particularly with this setup as it's what I've been dying to build. I've been intrigued by Titan's scaling results. Any ideas why 4 way has been so bad? Are you going for the 4th card? Any ideas on what the bottleneck is?
 
Well crap, I wish I would have seen your thread before I mounted it. I assumed PCPer tested with a SB-E and not a "lowly" 2600K lol. So much for assumptions. :mad:

Is 2 C the end of the world? No, but it still bugs me as I am a min/maxer LOL. Trying to think of a creative solution to "spinning" the block 90 degrees without draining and all that jazz. Although, I think the connection from the 380i out to the PCH block will need to be shortened. Thinking about pinching two of the hoses to seal the CPU block off and performing an open heart surgery spin. :D

As for the Titan, the fourth one is in the mail. Hopefully have it up and running this weekend for more benchmarks. Going to do a 2/3/4-Way Titan SLI test.
 
Nice I look forward to the results! Do you still have that Ex11 board to see if there are any pci-e bw issues? Yes if I didn't know you as a min/maxer I wouldn't have even have mentioned it lol but I figured you would might want to know.

Excellent clocks on your cpu as always - did you screen a few for a good one?
 
No EX 11 board anymore. I don't think those two PLX chips helped actually might have added a tad of latency. For example running Crysis 3 maxed all GPUs are screaming 99%, so no PCI-E limit when in 3.0 mode even with one or more of the cards at 8x.

It is funny though I installed the new 314.22 drivers and I was like oh crap, 15% performance drop across the board! I was getting so pissed. Then I remember you need to re-enable the PCI-E 3.0 force.exe every time you re-install drivers. ;) Definitely don't run Titan's on 2.0!

I played some Crysis 3 on the LB setup with TRI-Titans with everything maxed, man it was so smooth and fun was averaging around 90-100 FPS but the 4th Titan will keep me 120+. The graphics in that game at 3240x1920 with everything maxed combined with the perfect motion clarity is awesome. It was so freaking smooth too! At least NVIDIA got that SLI profile right.

I was wondering what your guys thoughts are on the NVIDIA control panel settings? I have all the items maxed quality. Do you think the visual benefits are worth the performance decrease?
 
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Crysis at 120fps on triple monitors. Now you're making me jealous. ;)
You could just also LightBoost at 100Hz, too.

What's interesting is you're pushing bandwidth so much, to the point that PCI 3.0 actually does a 15% improvement in performance.
 
Mark Rejhon said:
Crysis at 120fps on triple monitors. Now you're making me jealous. ;)
You could just also LightBoost at 100Hz, too.

What's interesting is you're pushing bandwidth so much, to the point that PCI 3.0 actually does a 15% improvement in performance.
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Well on the R4E with tri/quad sli it's pcie2x8 vs pcie3x8 I believe, so technically it's the same bandwidth as pcie2x16 which implies pcie3 isn't needed for the GPU itself; it's only needed for multi gpu setups in order to acheive more bandwidth per lane because the number of lanes are limited by the CPU/chipset. I.E. If Intel gave us 64+ pcie2 lanes then we'd be ok with pcie2. Although I might be misunderstanding as I'm hardly an expert.

That's good that we're not seeing the need for pcie3x16 on all slots yet. Crysis 3 does seem to be one of the few games that can really take advantage of quad titans according to the hardwareinfo review. Hopefully new drivers will help the other games.
 
The pieces are nice, but that's just money. I love the shelf and creativity of the entire setup. Thanks for always sharing, Vega...it's much appreciated.
 
Subscribed! Interesting to hear about the PLX chips not being the best way to go - I am contemplating adding a 4th 680 4GB and was trying to decide between Ivy w/PLX (my current 3, the 3rd card is PCIe2@x4, gets close to maxing out with the other two in surround) and Socket 2011. 2011 it is.
 
Mark Rejhon said:
Crysis at 120fps on triple monitors. Now you're making me jealous. ;)
You could just also LightBoost at 100Hz, too.

What's interesting is you're pushing bandwidth so much, to the point that PCI 3.0 actually does a 15% improvement in performance.
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120 Hz 10% LB or bust! :D As for the PCI-E slots, yes when you use more than two GPU's setups will drop down to 8x, that is where the PCI-E 3.0 versus 2.0 comes into play.

Tol said:
The pieces are nice, but that's just money. I love the shelf and creativity of the entire setup. Thanks for always sharing, Vega...it's much appreciated.
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Your welcome!

sean53154 said:
Subscribed! Interesting to hear about the PLX chips not being the best way to go - I am contemplating adding a 4th 680 4GB and was trying to decide between Ivy w/PLX (my current 3, the 3rd card is PCIe2@x4, gets close to maxing out with the other two in surround) and Socket 2011. 2011 it is.
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I wouldn't necessarily say not the best way to go. It's more of a side-way to go. I had the E11 board and liked it very much. I just found the two PLX chips and the dedicated 8x lane for the LSI chip unnecessary. I did not see any gains with my 4-Way 680 setup with the PLX chips nor going with 8x RAID-0 via the LSI chip versus 2x RAID with native Intel ports for gaming. It was cool though seeing 4gb/sec transfer on benchmarks though. ;)
 
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Vega said:
120 Hz 10% LB or bust! :D As for the PCI-E slots, yes when you use more than two GPU's setups will drop down to 8x, that is where the PCI-E 3.0 versus 2.0 comes into play.



Your welcome!



I wouldn't necessarily say not he best way to go. It's more of a side-way to go. I had the E11 board and liked it very much. I just found the two PLX chips and the dedicated 8x lane for the LSI chip necessary. I did not see any gains with my 4-Way 680 setup with the PLX chips nor going with 8x RAID-0 via the LSI chip versus 2x RAID with native Intel ports for gaming. It was cool though seeing 4gb/sec transfer on benchmarks though. ;)
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So given the choice between 2011 now with 40 native lanes, versus ivy with plx with 4x680 4gbs, someone said something about latency being introduced with the plx solution. So if you had the choice today what would you pick?
 
Sorry, I cannot type. :eek:

I meant unnecessary. As for what I would pick is what I did pick as I had every choice with my new build. Back on the RIVE. ;)

Got the 4th Titan inbound, I mean for this to be the best Battlefield 4 computer on the planet. Pre-ordered! The only thing that should surpass in benchmarks is LN2'd runs which have nothing to do with 24/7 gaming. ;)
 
Vega said:
Got the 4th Titan inbound, I mean for this to be the best Battlefield 4 computer on the planet. Pre-ordered! The only thing that should surpass in benchmarks is LN2'd runs which have nothing to do with 24/7 gaming. ;)
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Four titans. That's nuts. Hopefully your water cooling system has no leaks!
 
Watercooling doesnt leak if you know what you are doing :)

The only leak in 5 years of watercooling with me was the first Primochill acrylic resevoirs. They were a disaster. But that was a manufacturing problem with a little design error.
 
yup, 4 titans holy shit balls that's an epic and costly build. That's easily 4 large just in GPUs let alone w/c blocks

vega did you post benchmarks? If so I missed them i'll go back and search
 
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