Network pics thread

timberdoodle said:
I don't think that would be any better for us considering it is a 12 port chassis. Would be like 6 rows of patch, switch, 6 rows of patch, switch. I don't think you would be able to fit all the cables in the vertical chase. I had a hard enough time with 48 which is why I had to loop them in the middle.
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Are those the 4200 chassis?
 
Had a long day today, went downtown to two of our job sites to setup a CAD station for one user and then punch down a hydro line on a bix pannel at the other site.

pics :)

Spent a good chunk of my morning fighting with this HP 64-bit CAD unit and the gigabyte 1gb video card. The computer would not recognize it at all. Had to find the drivers, which too a considerable amount of time and finally got it working. Had to go setup the phone and hook it up to our patch panel.
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Our small server room at one government job site
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Had to walk to the other site, which is a high-rise we are building. This is our 'server' storage locker.
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Pretty much all of our servers are the HP GL G6 series. Some 330's, some 370's at different sites. We have our jobsite and sql server's at each site, which also has the PM3 software on it.
 
Finished a massive cleanup of the main office's wiring closet. This is the culmination of about 2 weeks of after hours work here and there. I also added 4 3750G's to the stack and removed some crappy Netgear switches, if you look close at the before pictures they are hidded in the mess :eek: All said and done I spent about $500 on new cable managers and all new patch cables for every connection. The old ones had boots that were so fat you could not plug 4 in next to each other. The before pictures are after I tried to tidy it up, eventually i gave up and ripped everything out :D I also color coded the cables for different things which is why they are not all black.

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schnell said:
Finished a massive cleanup of the main office's wiring closet. This is the culmination of about 2 weeks of after hours work here and there. I also added 4 3750G's to the stack and removed some crappy Netgear switches, if you look close at the before pictures they are hidded in the mess :eek: All said and done I spent about $500 on new cable managers and all new patch cables for every connection. The old ones had boots that were so fat you could not plug 4 in next to each other. The before pictures are after I tried to tidy it up, eventually i gave up and ripped everything out :D I also color coded the cables for different things which is why they are not all black.

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Looks great. Whoever made that mess should be beaten with those cables lol.
 
ToX said:
Looks great. Whoever made that mess should be beaten with those cables lol.
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The worst part is those before pics are after I tried to clean it up for about 3 hours. Wish I had taken a real before pic.
 
Brak710 said:
I want to claw my eyes out when someone doesn't do "patch panel - switch - patch panel - switch" etc.

Should just bring in hedge clippers.
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Have any pictures as an example? What size patch panels and/or switches do you use?
 
dashpuppy said:
Bluefox is selling some of these MSA devices over in his thread, Since i got a infraction for posting in his thread, i thought i would share it here,

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1684020&highlight=bluefox

just plugged mine in, and its using 133watts running untangle with nothing plugged in, no ethernet cables or anything.

Not sure what the board can use for a cpu, its a LGA775 should be able to handle a core2duo witch uses WAY less power than the P4 that's in it.

I'm selling mine 190$ shipped. ( usa & canada )

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Just put this up on ebay, $99 plus 60$ shipping.. taking a huge hit, but i don't need it any more..
 
New toys for me earlier this week...

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Turned one into a little LAMP machine, quite good for home use as it only consumes 3 watts including the power brick.

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Brak710 said:
I want to claw my eyes out when someone doesn't do "patch panel - switch - patch panel - switch" etc.

Should just bring in hedge clippers.
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thats great and all till a switch fails and you have to redo EVERYTHING.

with proper wire management keeping them separate can still look great.




@SCHNELL very nice cleanup work
 
Some more pics...

After chatting with Dash later on yesterday he seemed to think my new UT wouldn`t be able to handle my new 60/6 connection (potentially 60/10) that is supposedly coming my way around July so I thought I`d load this box up and see what`s what!?!?

Started downloading a shed load of stuff from microsoft, ubuntu, and other sources;) to load this up. My max bandwidth is advertised at 30Mb, i frequently test at 31.5-ish Mb , this roughly translates into about 3.7MB/sec.

Now, with this lot going, cpu usage was staying at "low" in the UT interface so I though I`d generate reports at the same time to really stress it out, clicked the button and everything seemed fine but I noticed in the background that usage had changed to "medium" at that point the interface seemed to hang so I opened another one and there it was, "high" in red letters!

Next thing I know I can hear this faint whistling coming from somewhere, long story short it was coming from the attic where the UT box is and it`s got its red "i" led lit!

Whipped it out and got the lid off and felt the cpu heatsink, and all i can say it was hot! I have one of those infra red laser guided thermometer things and it read 90.6 degrees CELCIUS!!

I have since resorted to this...




Got myself online last night and sourced a few different models of 40mm, quiet, low speed, half decent cfm fans to try out.

I then got to thinking about ducting the heatsink to the fan, that way, I could get away with a slower, quieter fan with less cfm to drag the air over the heatsink, slowly.

This is what I have ended up with so far...





Just enough space at the back here to slip a nice little 40mm fan in...





Pressed down, it looks like the dragged-in air will have to flow through those heatsink fins, good stuff!


Also, I managed to trim around the components between the fan and the heatsink... not a bad effort even if I do say so myself....




The obligatory power shot!!



Fans, I expect, will start arriving tomorrow hopefully, otherwise there wasn`t really much point in me shelling out for this snazzy rackmount case if I can`t rackmount it:(:confused:

Hopefully, out of the 4 fans I have ordered, at least one will be sufficiently quiet, while moving enough air to keep this nice and cool, at least I hope so......

Oh and I do think that the straw that broke the camels back or in this case, the click that cooked the Untangles processor, was the generating of reports, which under normal usage won`t be done manually, during the day, in the middle of heavy traffic... the way I understand it is that happens automatically in the middle of the night when no-one will be doing much, if anything at all.

Bit of an update to my update....

Without the lid on the case and with no fan running and little to no network traffic, the CPU heatsink is sitting at 55.5 degrees celsius, I dread to think how hot it gets with it`s lid on......

Update to my updated update, little to no network activity (email, facebook, light surfing) with the case/lid on lifts the CPU temp to 81.5 - 82 Degrees Celsius! This Thing NEEDS a fan!
 
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Accelebrate said:
New toys for me earlier this week...

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Turned one into a little LAMP machine, quite good for home use as it only consumes 3 watts including the power brick.

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Please keep us updated on how it does, I ordered a few myself and want to make small network intrusion devices hidden in old desktop switch cases. (Legitimately for work as part of our site auditing process.)
 
The Spyder said:
Please keep us updated on how it does, I ordered a few myself and want to make small network intrusion devices hidden in old desktop switch cases. (Legitimately for work as part of our site auditing process.)
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I to want to play and do this :)
 
Could be used for lots of things, just like any other general-purpose computer. I'm wondering what Accelebrate is planning, specifically.
 
Woah those raspberry PCs look awesome! Where can one get their hands on that? Are they really only 3 watts? Depending on price I could totally use a bunch of those for a future project that involves clustering. Would make a nice test bed, of course I could replicate that test bed in VMs, but that is just more cool. :p
 
haunter said:
thats great and all till a switch fails and you have to redo EVERYTHING.

with proper wire management keeping them separate can still look great.




@SCHNELL very nice cleanup work
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Umm, never had this issue. Disconnect all Cat5, take off wire management caps, pull back wires, unscrew mounts, slide switch straight out.
 
The chaos I had this week.,.. had to build 13 machines for a client's setup... lots and lots of equipment came in:

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Adam said:
The chaos I had this week.,.. had to build 13 machines for a client's setup... lots and lots of equipment came in:

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Easy to do, I used to build 6-8 a day with lots of time to spare, and I aw very anal with wiring inside.l
 
BigBadAl said:
Next thing I know I can hear this faint whistling coming from somewhere, long story short it was coming from the attic where the UT box is and it`s got its red "i" led lit!

Whipped it out and got the lid off and felt the cpu heatsink, and all i can say it was hot! I have one of those infra red laser guided thermometer things and it read 90.6 degrees CELCIUS!!

I have since resorted to this...

Fans, I expect, will start arriving tomorrow hopefully, otherwise there wasn`t really much point in me shelling out for this snazzy rackmount case if I can`t rackmount it:(:confused:

Hopefully, out of the 4 fans I have ordered, at least one will be sufficiently quiet, while moving enough air to keep this nice and cool, at least I hope so......

Oh and I do think that the straw that broke the camels back or in this case, the click that cooked the Untangles processor, was the generating of reports, which under normal usage won`t be done manually, during the day, in the middle of heavy traffic... the way I understand it is that happens automatically in the middle of the night when no-one will be doing much, if anything at all.

Bit of an update to my update....

Without the lid on the case and with no fan running and little to no network traffic, the CPU heatsink is sitting at 55.5 degrees celsius, I dread to think how hot it gets with it`s lid on......

Update to my updated update, little to no network activity (email, facebook, light surfing) with the case/lid on lifts the CPU temp to 81.5 - 82 Degrees Celsius! This Thing NEEDS a fan!
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I'm very interested to hear the outcome of that since I too have the same case/mobo. and I also thought that the heatsinks got pretty toasty. These cases just don't have enough airflow.
 
pwrusr said:
I'm very interested to hear the outcome of that since I too have the same case/mobo. and I also thought that the heatsinks got pretty toasty. These cases just don't have enough airflow.
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They don't have "ANY" air flow, there is no fan to move air through the chassis, thats why we have been talking back and forth about using a 40x40x40 12V fan, all the fan needs to do is move a little bit of air, i think he's going to pull aur through the front and out the back so it will be pulling air over his hieatsink.

Another sugestion i gave him was to buy a supermicro blower fan, and run it at 7V and have it blow air over the whole motherboard..

dash.
 
pwrusr said:
I'm very interested to hear the outcome of that since I too have the same case/mobo. and I also thought that the heatsinks got pretty toasty. These cases just don't have enough airflow.
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OK, outcome time....

2 out of the 4 I ordered came this morning

a Scythe Mini Kaze at 3500rpm (at 12 volts) with 4.11 cfm and 14dBA
a Fractal Design at 4000rpm (at 12 volts) with 3.8cfm and 13dBA

I have fitted both (one at a time) and noted differences. The slower fan with more cfm (the Kaze) was noisier and resulted in higher temperatures than the Fractal Designs with faster rpm and lower cfm.

My conclusion from this is that the air was moving too fast over the heatsink through my duct and out the back to pick up any raidated heat from the heatsink fins.

I removed the Kaze and re-installed the Fractal Designs.

I have replicated today the same scenario, the click that cooked Untangle`s processor, I started downloading 7x 4GB+ disc images from Debian (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/) and watched my speed climb waited for it to settle and checked the temp (49 - 50 degrees Celcius) this was with the lid on the case.

I only lifted the lid to probe the temp.

Next, I replaced the lid, and for good measure, and to simulate a condition slightly worse that would be encountered in the attic, I folded a fresh thick towel and sat it on the top of the case, like so...




At this point, with the lid on and the towel on top I clicked the "generate todays reports" button and held my breath.... the cpu usage never went higher than "low" (had another window open ready) and the temperature never rose above 50.5 degrees Celcius...

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At this point I`m certainly happier than I was temp wise, but I still have 2 more fans to come and try out, I`m going to go for the one with the least noise that gives the lowest temperature.

I also need to re-route all the cables and fit the HDD properly when the bracket I already have is found:eek::rolleyes: but overall, at this point, I`ll sleep a little easier in my bed knowing that when the report generation kicks in in the middle of the night, whatever is going on network-wise, I won`t be woken up by the box screaming at me from the attic!

Oooh, I also need a suggestion for mounting the rear fan more permanently when I settle on one.... at present it`s 'mounted' the same way the hard disk is, with Blu-tack!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Tack)
 
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