Kindle Fire..Anyone Else.

If you guys were choosing the Fire or Nook based purely on being an E-reader and ebook availability/choices, which would you choose?
 
Well for e-book it really doesn't matter. You can load the kindle android app on the nook and the experience really won't be significantly different.
 
Oldie said:
Well for e-book it really doesn't matter. You can load the kindle android app on the nook and the experience really won't be significantly different.
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Ok, let me put it this way. Out of the box, no editing, no rooting, no messing with whatsoever. Which is better?

Essentially, I'm getting 1 for my wife, but she said if I do, I can't touch it. :(
 
If it's only for reading, then maybe one of their regular e-readers instead of a tablet.
 
BladeVenom said:
It's 20% faster, has twice the memory, twice the storage, and comes with a microSD slot so you can add more storage. The slot will also make it easier to root.

Even just getting it as a standard reader, B&N uses the standard epub format for books. Amazon uses a proprietary format. Nook will also read more formats than the Fire.
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For anyone reading this is a false statement. Do your homework.
 
BladeVenom said:
If it's only for reading, then maybe one of their regular e-readers instead of a tablet.
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She will still use the wifi and probably a few other apps. But it is mainly the e-reader ability. I'm having a hard time separating the 2 for a non-techie person. So the ability and options available for the e-reading and books is what I'm going on.
 
harsaphes said:
So...after a week of use I'm in love with this device. I have completely stopped taking my Ipad around with me. At work, I have my Fire on the desk . I use PULSE to keep up with all my tech related news. I use it for my email and I use it for web browsing. This morning I downloaded a movie on it and took it to the gym. Did cardio while watching. If fits in my coat pocket. It also finds my Nexus S wifi hot spot right away. So far I cant say enough about how much I love this.
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Same, but sub the ipad for transformer. I'm selling the transformer, no question.
 
paco said:
She will still use the wifi and probably a few other apps. But it is mainly the e-reader ability. I'm having a hard time separating the 2 for a non-techie person. So the ability and options available for the e-reading and books is what I'm going on.
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From what I could tell the e-reading capabilities are pretty similar between the two. I ended up just ordering the Fire for my wife for the following reasons: She isn't going to notice the smaller internal storage or the lack of a microSD or microphone. And she will probably end up getting books/content from Amazon rather than B&N. Plus the Fire is $50 cheaper (retail).
 
nobody_here said:
For anyone reading this is a false statement. Do your homework.
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Learn to read. See the date on that post? It's from more than 2 weeks ago, which was before the product was released, and the info came from leaked documents.
 
given recent reviews pretty happy I grabbed the Nook Tablet instead of the Fire for the wife. Seems amazon kinda cheaped out on the fire parts went very generic. Amazon gonna launch 2 new models in 2012 it looks like with bigger screens.
 
dajet24 said:
given recent reviews pretty happy I grabbed the Nook Tablet instead of the Fire for the wife. Seems amazon kinda cheaped out on the fire parts went very generic. Amazon gonna launch 2 new models in 2012 it looks like with bigger screens.
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this... could you be more specific?
 
GoldenTiger said:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this... could you be more specific?
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I assume he mostly means the lack of RAM and storage space. But I've heard the screen itself and construction of the Fire isn't as good as the Nook. Nook seems to win in drop tests. Screen is much stronger and harder to crack. How much of a difference, I'm not sure.

Doesn't matter much. 2012 will bring a 9 inch Fire and a 2nd gen 7inch with beefier specs.

If I have the money though, I think I'll still get my wife the Nook Tablet.
 
I have a few quick question:

1) what is the actual width of the screen? 7" is the external width, what's the real LCD screen width?

2) I don't like wireless and I don't use it. Is there any firmware update when you first turn it on? If so, I can go to a friend's house to set it up

As I only want to buy this to read medical PDF ebook, and after the 1st boot up, will it keep looking or asking for wireless connection? (since I don't use wireless router)

Because I just want the Kindle Fire to boot up and read some PDF.

3) can the Kindle fire functions well without connecting to the internet?
 
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Happy Hopping said:
I have a few quick question:

3) can the Kindle fire functions well without connecting to the internet?
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i bought mine as a gift to my daughter so haven't opened it yet of course, but having been the owner of an Acer A500 10" Android tablet, without internet access it is only good to view pictures, that kind of stuff. Very basic tasks. Very underwhelming. These Wifi tablets and all the apps you can put on them are based around the idea that they have full time internet access. I would not recommend a $200+ Wifi tablet for someone who will never have internet access.
 
Happy Hopping said:
3) can the Kindle fire functions well without connecting to the internet?
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If you think about it, how useful is ANY device these days without an Internet or network connection? You're limited to local storage in that case and the Fire doesn't have much as the Fire is designed to tie into Amazon services since it's currently being sold at a loss.

But you can playback and consume local content, just not a lot of it, not significantly different from even a full PC, again just not a lot of it due to lack of local storage. The Fire is a cloud terminal primarily however ant that's probably how it's best used.
 
But if you want a good color ebook reader, who would you go with? I have seen some really cheap junk from india at $70, but I don't even want to see it. I found this:

http://aluratek.com/libre-color-ebook-reader-with-7-color-lcd

but the manual said:

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Books in the card are not recognized by ADE when connected to
PC.
 Direct copy of files from internal memory to card is not supported

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And I still can't find what the resolution of this cheap LCD
 
@Happy Hopping. If you dont have Wifi are you just going to transfer your documents to the device over usb?...Im sure a regular Kindle will display a PDF file...correct me if Im wrong here guys....so you could go the cheaper route.
 
SixFootDuo said:
I've decided that I love my KFire so much that ... I have to return it for the Nook Tablet. I really need the 16gig and expansion slot. Just no way around it. I've yet to have a boring shit since I've got the damn thing.
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I read somewhere that even though the Nook Tablet has 16gb of storage you can only use 1gb for apps and games. Can anyone confirm this?
 
Azhar said:
I read somewhere that even though the Nook Tablet has 16gb of storage you can only use 1gb for apps and games. Can anyone confirm this?
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Only 1Gb for Non-B&N storage. But it's got a slot for sd card. Just use that.
 
paco said:
Only 1Gb for Non-B&N storage. But it's got a slot for sd card. Just use that.
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I dunno, I don't see myself using 15gb of space for books and videos from B&N.

Or does B&N have an Android App Store like Amazon has?
 
Or you can just root the nook and use all 16 as you see fit. :)

I'm pretty happy with the fires I got, but the nooks look nice as well. I don't think you could go terribly wrong with either.
 
Azhar said:
I read somewhere that even though the Nook Tablet has 16gb of storage you can only use 1gb for apps and games. Can anyone confirm this?
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if you use it out of the box without rooting or modifying it, yes. It also has the sdcard slot. That being said they are also slamming the Kindle Fire for having only 8Gb of internal memory and no sdcard slot, but it also gets unlimited cloud space for all amazon content, so ts really no big deal....
 
That's incredibly lame of them to restrict almost all of that space for B&N content.
 
Raekwon said:
That's incredibly lame of them to restrict almost all of that space for B&N content.
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Can't blame them. They want you to buy their stuff. Might hurt them for a while, but they don't care. Majority of people will use it out of the box. Majority of people who'll buy it love B&N. I'll probably end up getting my wife one, and she won't let me touch it.
 
I've never had an Android device before. Is rooting similar to jailbreaking where when you jailbreak, your phone looks like nothing's changed? Rooting a Nook Tablet would still keep the Nook's Android OS, just with more flexibility? Or will it be vanilla Android?
 
Azhar said:
I've never had an Android device before. Is rooting similar to jailbreaking where when you jailbreak, your phone looks like nothing's changed? Rooting a Nook Tablet would still keep the Nook's Android OS, just with more flexibility? Or will it be vanilla Android?
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So, you can root a device and never know the difference in everyday use yes. Rooting a device is pretty much the equivalent of jailbreaking the iOS devices yes. It allows you to run unsigned "unofficial" code on the device. Most people do it because you can do a lot more with your device if the apps you get have access to root (think highest level administrator account level access). It of course does open up a device to be vulnerable to malicious code as well, so it is recommended for people who won't install a bunch of junk apps, random apps, the type of people who don't click on stuff just because it says you can get something for free.....you know....techy type people who know how to spot a scam.

There are some extremely useful apps that require root to run. Titanium Backup is one
 
nobody_here said:
So, you can root a device and never know the difference in everyday use yes. Rooting a device is pretty much the equivalent of jailbreaking the iOS devices yes. It allows you to run unsigned "unofficial" code on the device. Most people do it because you can do a lot more with your device if the apps you get have access to root (think highest level administrator account level access). It of course does open up a device to be vulnerable to malicious code as well, so it is recommended for people who won't install a bunch of junk apps, random apps, the type of people who don't click on stuff just because it says you can get something for free.....you know....techy type people who know how to spot a scam.

There are some extremely useful apps that require root to run. Titanium Backup is one
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Perfect. I think I'm settled on Nook Tablet then. 16gb + SD + unlimited apps access for $50 more than the Fire is a no-brainer. This would be a Christmas gift for my SO. She likes the way Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire looks. I was just making sure rooting them won't change that.

Thanks for the replies!
 
Azhar said:
Perfect. I think I'm settled on Nook Tablet then. 16gb + SD + unlimited apps access for $50 more than the Fire is a no-brainer. This would be a Christmas gift for my SO. She likes the way Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire looks. I was just making sure rooting them won't change that.

Thanks for the replies!
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Please be aware in some cases the content provider, such as Amazon's streaming video service will refuse to run if you are rooted. That may mean you have to leave unrooted.
 
I've had my fire for a couple of weeks now. I do really like it. It's purely an entertainment device for me though. I enjoy streaming movies from Prime and Netflix to it. The Audible player is MUCH better than on my other devices, including the PC software!

I have it connecting to my Exchange Server for mail access, though, I don't enjoy e-mailing on it. Nor do I enjoy surfing the web on it. It's nice to have a portable web browser when I don't want to jump on my full machine, but I tend not to surf with it much.

The screen is excellent too. For a $200 purchase, I'm quite satisfied with it.

On a related note, While the e-book reader in it is good, I find I prefer reading on my e-ink kindle over the fire. I find e-ink displays more comfortable to read on, especially as I tend to read for longer sessions rather than 30 minutes here and there. That and the battery life of my e-ink kindle makes it my prefered reading platform.
 
thebadgerone said:
Damn, after 8 pages I still can't make up my mind about owning one....:confused:
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I'm pretty much the same way. But decided I'm just buying a Nook Tablet for the wife and if she doesn't want anything more than the Ereader we can return it for an eInk something.
 
harsaphes said:
@Happy Hopping. If you dont have Wifi are you just going to transfer your documents to the device over usb?...Im sure a regular Kindle will display a PDF file...correct me if Im wrong here guys....so you could go the cheaper route.
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Yeah via USB port. But I have many e-book PDF in color, so I have to get a Kindle Fire

If any of you have any suggestion for a color e-book reader, please let me know. I have seen 1 "brand" as cheap as $70, but it's a made in india piece of junk, and I don't want to pay that and crap out in 2 mth.
 
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For those who own 1, what is the actual width of the screen from edge to edge?

as some1 who owns the iPad2 told me the inner width (less than 7") is not wide enough to view magazine, but wide enough for novels. He said if I view magazine, I have to slide back and forth, whereas if I own the iPad2, I don't have to slide back and forth, every 1/2 page.

For those who's reading magazine on the Kindle Fire, is it true? Because the price is 3 to 1, so I don't mind resizing the screen a bit but not too often
 
I've found reading magazines in "page view" a futile exercise. I always read in "text view" which resolves the text just like Kindle novels.
 
My 4 years old is addicted to my Ipad 2, and is constantly using it. Is it currently possible to root the Kindle Fire and fill it with Market apps? Heard rumors of Amazon trying to kill root access.

I would want to turn the Fire into a full fledged tablet with no restrictions. Is that currently possible?
 
Happy Hopping said:
won't that be too small for your eyes? I assume you mean portrait mode?
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Page View: (Portrait) preserves the layout as seen in print edition.
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Text View: (Portrait) distills to Kindle text and images, no layout preserved.
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Page View (Landscape)
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I've got pretty dang good vision, but I've given up reading magazines in Page View. Reading in Text View is a better experience for me with one minor side benefit: Print Ads don't resolve in Text View. So you get only the articles.
 
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