New extra large -bigadv on Beta

One rig is all you need for [H]ardcore farming and 4p is the way to go. At the same time you really need to be able to OC. SR2 was designed for multi socket overlocking so I think it's going to keep it's edge in the "lower" cost range for probably another full year until 22nm.
 
At 2.7ghz, there was some instability -- machine rebooted. Though I had 2 of the DIMMs running at 5-6-5-1T (1066), not sure if that was a factor. I dialed the machine back to 2.6ghz with all DIMMs running at 6-7-5-1T @ 1333. Will dial it "forward" in smaller steps later.

Update: Resume TPF @2.6ghz first full frames as follows, a more modest 660K PPD for latest frame. Will update if speed changes.

[03:48:48] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[04:03:40] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[04:18:05] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)


Would be interesting to hear from the "Spicey" chip owners, both TPF and stabilty observations.



I need a little lie down. :eek:
 
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So Patriot is getting 2.3 times longer frame times on a dual hex.

Anyone noticed how long these take to download? Wondering if there is a bigger upload/download as well, you would think so....
 
Download size is about 2x standard bigadv -- estimated based on compressing two .TPR files that are being processed.

50,166,045 -> 6903
24,085,299 -> 6901


So Patriot is getting 2.3 times longer frame times on a dual hex.

Anyone noticed how long these take to download? Wondering if there is a bigger upload/download as well, you would think so....
 
Interesting - stabilized back to 12:09-12:26 TPF (824K+ PPD). Will report final results tomorrow.

[03:48:48] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[04:03:40] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[04:18:05] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
[04:30:31] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[04:44:14] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)
[04:56:29] Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps (7%)
[05:08:45] Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps (8%)
[05:20:54] Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps (9%)
[05:33:09] Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps (10%)
[05:45:24] Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps (11%)
[05:57:39] Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps (12%)
[06:09:53] Completed 32500 out of 250000 steps (13%)
[06:22:02] Completed 35000 out of 250000 steps (14%)

This 6903 unit seems to increase CPU temps about 7C vs. the 6901s at the same CPU frequency. This machine is watercooled with only a single 3x120 SR1-360 rad, so something to watch for.

Processor (Node 0) Tcl Temperature register: 57
Processor (Node 1) Tcl Temperature register: 56
Processor (Node 2) Tcl Temperature register: 55
Processor (Node 3) Tcl Temperature register: 55
Processor (Node 4) Tcl Temperature register: 54
Processor (Node 5) Tcl Temperature register: 54
Processor (Node 6) Tcl Temperature register: 52
Processor (Node 7) Tcl Temperature register: 52


At 2.7ghz, there was some instability -- machine rebooted. Though I had 2 of the DIMMs running at 5-6-5-1T (1066), not sure if that was a factor. I dialed the machine back to 2.6ghz with all DIMMs running at 6-7-5-1T @ 1333. Will dial it "forward" in smaller steps later.

Update: Resume TPF @2.6ghz first full frames as follows, a more modest 660K PPD for latest frame. Will update if speed changes.

[03:48:48] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[04:03:40] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[04:18:05] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)


Would be interesting to hear from the "Spicey" chip owners, both TPF and stabilty observations.
 
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thanks for all the info sfield Truly a credit to your team and folding community in general...

I am sitting 61% on a 6901 on my spicy... will give numbers as soon as possible... currently its dialed back to 3 so my room is livable... shaves 100w off lol....

I had it stable at 3.2 for 2 weeks before backing it down though...
 
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^ Seconded. You are wasted at EVGA mate. :p
Agreed, lots of guys with G34 [H]ardware over here to consort with. I spent 2 hours in IRC talking nothing but G34 clocking with 8 other horde members today, just saying....
 
will be interesting to see where the scale tips on worth it/not worth it for these

I still have 10 hours to go on my closest bigadv of my most powerful boxen currently folding. Sadly none of my hexen boxen are available to fold right now. *sniff*
 
Ok, Thanks heaps to the folks that posted frame times - I was able to work out accurately that I could attempt to squeeze one of these in on Linux before needing my rig back on Windows Monday morning. It will finish at 5am Monday ;)

First frame time 22:31 = 338,000 PPD and a credit of 528,700 points in one unit and one dump! :eek::D - compared to 200,000 PPD on a 6901.

[05:44:10] - Expanded 46,517,282 -> 71846524 (decompressed 62.1 percent) - 6903
[04:41:59] - Expanded 20,064,141 -> 30796292 (decompressed 153.4 percent) - 6901

So looks like exactly 2.3 times the frame time and the download. Nice.
 
Bloody hell, if I could run Linux all day I now have a million point a day farm. :eek:

original.jpg


So ppd capacity:

480,000 on Windows/6901s
600,000 ppd on Linux/6901s.
1,025,000 ppd on Linux/6903s
 
I can't wait to see what patriot, musky, pj and dropper can unleash with a full swag of 6903s.

Although I think given how much longer the 6903 will take to do the rolling 7 day average might get a bit more jumpy and volatile as these massive units drop. But it can only go up.:D
 
Yeah we thought our point graphs were volatile before!

I don't want to be around if one of these units dies just prior to upload :( you'd lose days of work

Surely, these point values can't stick.
 
Well it seems that my SR-2's are now 240k PPD machines..... This is crazy.

I figure a bump in points is good because they take so long, but a 60-75% jump?

So who here is still GPU farming?
 
So who here is still GPU farming?

Me:D:p

Got just my 460 & 250 running at the moment, once i get my man cave finished though i will be re evaluating but the 460 will probably be kept on. A lot of it will depend on power draw and heat in the room - us brits don't do A/C in houses usually so heat is an issue.
On the subject of power draw dowas anyone have numbers for dual l5640's on an asus m/b. I reckon about 220w?
 
[13:26:56] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:26:56] Cleaning up work directory
[13:26:56] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:26:56] Passkey found
[13:26:56] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:26:56] - Successful: assigned to (130.237.232.237).
[13:26:56] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:26:56] Loaded queue successfully.

Still waiting. Didn't pick up anything last night on the quad 6174 box.
 
I got one on my spicy
24:15
Load balancing turned on....
23:40
22:54
22:54
22:51
22:55

it is at 3.1 running 52c 550w
 
Has anyone figured out how to interrupt a current unit without losing it?
Every time I do this, I lose the current unit. I like to change from bigadv to bigbeta but I hate to lose a unit.
 
Has anyone figured out how to interrupt a current unit without losing it?
Every time I do this, I lose the current unit. I like to change from bigadv to bigbeta but I hate to lose a unit.


nope...unless you use langouste
 
Has anyone figured out how to interrupt a current unit without losing it?
Every time I do this, I lose the current unit. I like to change from bigadv to bigbeta but I hate to lose a unit.

Before you shut down FAH copy the folding folder to the desktop (while fah is still running) shut down fah and change your configuration, disconnect from the Internet before you start FAH if you loose the WU when you star fah just delete the folding folder and copy and paste the one you saved to the desktop back to the home folder. ;) It works for me
 
OK, just setup my Z8NA with E5649s for -bigbeta. I will post frame times later today.
 
Before you shut down FAH copy the folding folder to the desktop (while fah is still running) shut down fah and change your configuration, disconnect from the Internet before you start FAH if you loose the WU when you star fah just delete the folding folder and copy and paste the one you saved to the desktop back to the home folder. ;) It works for me

Thanks man!
I'll give it a shot.
 
Here's what I do:

0) Verify/wait for a checkpoint to be written out (so you don't throw away up to 15 minutes, or whatever the checkpoint interval of work is set to).
1) Find the folding@home binary in the running process list. Don't look for the FahCore_xx -- you want the parent that launches the core.
2) Kill the parent. The child core will automatically exit cleanly when the parent dies.
3) Restart FAH with new arguments.

Example for my setup is below, this assumes the parent binary is named "fah.exe" and that you have the folding files in ~/folding. This stuff is easy to automate, discrete steps listed for illustration purposes.

cd ~/folding/work
grep -i checkpoint *.log
(note latest checkpoint, compare to current time, optionally wait for next checkpoint to be written if it's nearly ready)

ps x | grep -i fah.exe
1662 ? Sl 0:02 ./fah.exe -smp 48 -bigbeta

kill 1662

Wait a few seconds for core to exit. restart fah with new arguments. In the cases I've observed, it's fine to switch from -smp to -bigadv, to bigbeta in the middle of a unit that is already being processed. Switching between any of these should be fine:
fah.exe -smp 48
fah.exe -smp 48 -bigadv
fah.exe -smp 48 -bigbeta


Has anyone figured out how to interrupt a current unit without losing it?
Every time I do this, I lose the current unit. I like to change from bigadv to bigbeta but I hate to lose a unit.
 
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First frame of -bigbeta on my Z8NA was 35:30 for 170K ppd. That's freaking awesome! Not too bad for 24 threads at stock if you ask me.

Fold On!
 
Any idea on when they will release these things for Windows... I have a 970 ready to take the plunge...
 
Everyone running a hex SR-2 @ 3.6ghz can look forward to 29:32 TPF for 225K PPD.
What did they bench these with, Vijay's mom's laptop?
 
Everyone running a hex SR-2 @ 3.6ghz can look forward to 29:32 TPF for 225K PPD.
What did they bench these with, Vijay's mom's laptop?

Have you ever thought that maybe the science involved with these WU is very important and they want to get them done as quickly as possible? Hence the high PPD.......

I see these as a natural evolution just as -smp to -bigadv in the PPD department. Bigger WU, more science, more PPD.
 
It is a natural evolution but I don't like it. It just kills the competitive aspect of f@h for the normal people who don't build multi socket servers. On the other hand, if I have the money to build a multi socket rig in the fall... :D
 
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Have you ever thought that maybe the science involved with these WU is very important and they want to get them done as quickly as possible? Hence the high PPD.......

I see these as a natural evolution just as -smp to -bigadv in the PPD department. Bigger WU, more science, more PPD.

From what I understand they have to do a lot of overlap on the smaller WU so they know how they all fit together.

These larger WU eliminate the need for the overlap from what I understand.
 
WOW, as soon as I leave I find out I can hit nearly a quarter million with my old rig... I'm gonna have to invest into something crazy when I come back
 
WOW, as soon as I leave I find out I can hit nearly a quarter million with my old rig... I'm gonna have to invest into something crazy when I come back


Well the rig is still yours man ;)

Musky came down and did some linux tweeks on it so it is pumping ppd. :cool:

Your system currently:

bigbetavaltrig.jpg
 
Holy crap man... Never thought I'd get that much from a single box I bought lol

Funny, the most expensive box I've built, and ever since I've built it PPD has only gone UP lol!!!

(PS, got the care package 2 days ago, Thanks!! Those will come in handy cuz the PX closes in 2 weeks, no more buying things, but between you and my old unit I've got enough stuff to last me the rest of the tour. THANKS!!!)

Well, I see stuff's getting tight at home, if you ever need a few bucks for power just let me know. But thanks for keeping her going for the team, extra 250k for the horde never hurts lol
 
Holy crap man... Never thought I'd get that much from a single box I bought lol

Funny, the most expensive box I've built, and ever since I've built it PPD has only gone UP lol!!!

(PS, got the care package 2 days ago, Thanks!! Those will come in handy cuz the PX closes in 2 weeks, no more buying things, but between you and my old unit I've got enough stuff to last me the rest of the tour. THANKS!!!)

Well, I see stuff's getting tight at home, if you ever need a few bucks for power just let me know. But thanks for keeping her going for the team, extra 250k for the horde never hurts lol

Glad the box got to ya :cool:

Things are doing fine here. I'm in summer mode however. Any box I am putting together I want to be on a good ppd/w basis.

I'm playing with the idea of running some GPUs out in the garage. I just need to keep an eye on temps in there for a while. Maybe even use the boxfan :p
 
4 x 1.8GHz Magny Cours - 18:52/frame, 441K ppd...I could get used to this...
 
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