Im planning on upgrading my current rig cpu wise. I currently have a Pentium D and Im limited to the Core 2 duo and quad. I do play games but I am not an overclocker. and I am looking to get the most bang for my buck. What cpu should I move to?
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Pentium D vs C2D vs C2DQ
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At this point you're better off buying the CPU and RAM used. This is because new Core 2 processors now cost much more money than is justified by their performance. In fact, I wouldn't pay more than $80 or so for a Core 2 Duo or more than about $125 for a Core 2 Quad. And 4GB worth of DDR2 memory now costs at least $20 more than an equal amount of DDR3 memory that newer systems require.
Well actually that is the plan. Just wondering since Ill be mainly playing games and watching HD movies where I should head CPU wise.
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If you are going to keep the same motherboard we would need to know which one you have in order to see what it supports.
Its a DG31PR. Same one in the sig. I will be upgrading the ram to the full 4 gigs when at a later date.
according the manual I have these 4 choices:
• Intel® Core™2 Quad processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz
system bus
• Intel® Core™2 Duo processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1333 MHz, 1066
MHz, or 800 MHz system bus
• Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core processor in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz
system bus
• Intel® Celeron® processor in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz system bus
But of course who uses a celeron for gaming?
I guess my main question is once I max out the ram and when I am playing games will I get better preformance from the C2Q or the C2D?
according the manual I have these 4 choices:
• Intel® Core™2 Quad processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1066 MHz
system bus
• Intel® Core™2 Duo processor in an LGA775 socket with a 1333 MHz, 1066
MHz, or 800 MHz system bus
• Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core processor in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz
system bus
• Intel® Celeron® processor in an LGA775 socket with an 800 MHz system bus
But of course who uses a celeron for gaming?
I guess my main question is once I max out the ram and when I am playing games will I get better preformance from the C2Q or the C2D?
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The CPU support list for that board is pretty good. http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg31pr
A used quad core should last a while, but a fast dual core might be better for gaming right now.
A used quad core should last a while, but a fast dual core might be better for gaming right now.
Would you be happy going from 2.8GHz to 3.33GHz (E6800)? The E5500 is worth around $40-$50 on ebay. The faster FSB speed helps. I find it hard to justify the price premiums on the higher speed Core 2 Duos.
I'm not really seeing many worthwhile upgrades on that board. Microcenter has the Q9300 for $100. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0328258
Have you considered replacing the board and CPU? You could get an Athlon II X4 3GHz and Gigabyte AMD 740 AM2+ board from newegg for around $150. Don't know if you have a CPU preference.
I'm not really seeing many worthwhile upgrades on that board. Microcenter has the Q9300 for $100. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0328258
Have you considered replacing the board and CPU? You could get an Athlon II X4 3GHz and Gigabyte AMD 740 AM2+ board from newegg for around $150. Don't know if you have a CPU preference.
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I think may be good with a 6800 but does cache size make a difference as well to gaming? Id like to get the most bang for the buck. When I done around taxmas this goes to the wife.
Also I lean more toward intel but Id like to try AMD.
Also I lean more toward intel but Id like to try AMD.
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This review has benchmarks including the all the CPUs mentioned. http://www.behardware.com/articles/778-2/giant-roundup-168-intel-and-amd-processors.html
The Athlon II X4 640 (3GHz) edges out the Q9300 overall. The Q9300 has the convenience of dropping into the current board. If you have a local Microcenter with one in stock, that's the easiest option.
I have a Fry's near me, so what I would do is very different from the advice I gave above. The prices really don't make sense compared to what they sell for elsewhere.
I don't know how Fry's makes a profit on those things. For a very small budget I would either get an i3 5xx or Athlon II/Phenom II X4 CPU.
The Athlon II X4 640 (3GHz) edges out the Q9300 overall. The Q9300 has the convenience of dropping into the current board. If you have a local Microcenter with one in stock, that's the easiest option.
I have a Fry's near me, so what I would do is very different from the advice I gave above. The prices really don't make sense compared to what they sell for elsewhere.
I don't know how Fry's makes a profit on those things. For a very small budget I would either get an i3 5xx or Athlon II/Phenom II X4 CPU.I think what I'll do is go AMD on my next system. Im gonna stick with intel for now since thats all I can afford really and by taxmas the prices may come down some more. Also I think the Q9300 may not be needed. How many cores are most games and applications using???
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Most of modern games use just 2 cores, meanwhile applications like audio converters, video encoders, 3D renderers are capable of taking advantage of 4+ cores.
It varies. A fast 2 core chip should be more than adequate for most uses. Maybe upgrade it with another 2GB and the E6800 before giving her the system?
Mafia II and Dragon Age also, Crysis 2 will take advantage of quads as well.
The 'not many games use 4 cores' argument doesn't hold anymore, imo..
That is what makes upgrading any LGA775-based system (in fact, any system requiring DDR2) problematical at best.
It gets really difficult when you can upgrade to Sandy Bridge for $600USD using any system with a decent mATX/ATX mid-tower or larger case as your starting point. (Since at worst you'd keep the drives and case, even an AGP-based-case meeting the specs qualifies.)
CPU - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
MB - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354255
PSU - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0337655
RAM - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0318703
Why no graphics? Either you have a PCIe graphics card (which can transfer) or not, in which case, you can still use the integrated graphics of H67. Neither is a real roadblock.
RAM: 4 GB of DDR3-1333 is typically no worse than $60 after MIR (and that's Corsair or Patriot G-Series, not brand X) so even 8 GB (four 2 GB modules) comes in just above the cutoff at worst.
Hold up bro,
Cat are you saying you own a Pentium D processor or a Pentium Dual-Core processor?
Pentium D is a steaming pile of netburst crap. Pentium Dual-Core is a very reasonable chip, and I don't think you will see substantial gains going from what appears to be your E5500 to anything else. I don't think you'll even notice enough difference in going to a Core 2 Quad to justify it considering what you want to use it for.
Just my 2 cents; I think a lot of people in here think you're running a 6 year old chip that is 3 generations old.
Cat are you saying you own a Pentium D processor or a Pentium Dual-Core processor?
Pentium D is a steaming pile of netburst crap. Pentium Dual-Core is a very reasonable chip, and I don't think you will see substantial gains going from what appears to be your E5500 to anything else. I don't think you'll even notice enough difference in going to a Core 2 Quad to justify it considering what you want to use it for.
Just my 2 cents; I think a lot of people in here think you're running a 6 year old chip that is 3 generations old.
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He's mentioned Pentium D rather specifically, along with the c2d and c2q.
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Not worth it.
In this case, then, you have a Pentium Dual-Core already, not a Pentium D. The Pentium Dual-Core is Core 2 Duo-based - but with less L2 cache and often a lower FSB speed. You are confusing the Pentium Dual-Core with a Pentium D: The Pentium D dates back from the Prescott Pentium 4 days of 2005 (in fact, the old Pentium D CPUs actually consisted of two Prescott or Cedar Mill CPUs in one package), while the first Core 2 Duo was launched in late 2006. And IIRC none of Intel's own 3-series motherboards support the Pentium D at all.
Your particular E5500, on the other hand, came out in Spring 2010. (About the time the E5xxx-series CPUs were introduced, Intel dropped the "Dual-Core" designation from the Pentium line and simply called it "Pentium" since all Pentium-branded CPUs were dual-core by then.) It was one of the very last Socket 775 CPUs ever introduced. As such, it is already of the later Core architecture and the 45nm manufacturing process. Unfortunately, the DG31PR motherboard is holding back that CPU somewhat: It offers absolutely no overclocking provisions or voltage adjustments whatsoever.
By the way, compared to your current E5500, a Pentium D is a significant downgrade while any C2D clocked lower than your current E5500 (2.8GHz) would be a mostly sideways-grade that isn't worth the CPU's current going price. The currently-available 45nm C2D and C2Q CPUs are definite upgrades - but are they worth anywhere near their current going prices? And there has been the Pentium E6800 (also one of the very last CPUs released for LGA 775) which has always been on the pricey side for such a lower-end CPU. (There has never been a Core 2 Duo E6800 officially released when the original E6600 and E6700 CPUs came out; the 6800-class dual-core CPU at that time was released as the Core 2 Extreme X6800, which essentially required the X38 or X48 chipset to even work at all.)
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Yep, Quads are a must now. BC2 hammers the hell out my e8400 at 3.7Ghz... I can only imagine how big of a upgrade that $100 Q9300 at 2.5Ghz would be for me.