Windows 7 Upgrade Now Available $49.99 / $99.99 6/26/09-7/11/09

krupted said:
no i think theyre actually out of touch with reality. vista basically flopped as far as sales go... but win7's hype is so high that i think they should have kept the premium price tags. people are stupid, and ms should charge what they know people would pay. problem is theyre looking it as product, and what theyre actually selling, which is a glorified version of vista.... which is probably why they kept the prices lower.
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Microsoft also made fun of Apples $29.00 Snow Leopard saying "Thats just a service pack and we don't charge for service packs" but isn't Win7 just a large service pack for Vista? I mean, why are we so happy about these prices? If they had kept the prices high a lot more people would have been looking at the real differences between Win7 and Vista, but as it is, we are all so focused on this "Super Low" pricing scale to be bothered with examining it for what it might really be, a large Service Pack for Vista, that they want us to pay for.
 
Jonsey said:
Is an upgrade version like an OEM (supposed to be only installed on one set of hardware) or like retail (you can transfer it to a new build)? I saw this was already asked once in the thread but I didn't see an answer.
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Whoa, what a sec...
I'm currently running the OEM version of Windows XP 32-bit on a Core2Duo machine. That means that if I get Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Upgrade, when I decide to purchase a Core i7, around Christmas, I need to buy another Windows? This sucks big time.

If this is true, I might as well wait for the real copy of Windows 7. Why in the world would I want to purchase a new copy of windows each time I upgrade. I dunno, I'm just saying, because I have never replaced my motherboard and cpu on a OEM Windows. Only video/sound cards.
 
Pretty sure the win 7 keys work for 32bit or 64bit version, but i cant' confirm this thought i read it somewhere. It would suck if they're not, but on newegg the upgrade desc lists 64bit hardware so guessing it will work for 64bit. I heard they put all the installs on the same disk, (think vista did this too), so don't see why 64bit wouldn't work out.
 
PoorBehavior said:
Microsoft also made fun of Apples $29.00 Snow Leopard saying "Thats just a service pack and we don't charge for service packs" but isn't Win7 just a large service pack for Vista? I mean, why are we so happy about these prices? If they had kept the prices high a lot more people would have been looking at the real differences between Win7 and Vista, but as it is, we are all so focused on this "Super Low" pricing scale to be bothered with examining it for what it might really be, a large Service Pack for Vista, that they want us to pay for.
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If you're suggesting Win7 is just a "SP" for Vista.. um yea. Sure.
 
lowteckh said:
If you're suggesting Win7 is just a "SP" for Vista.. um yea. Sure.
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It really is, same basic kernel, same driver model. It's not the same overhaul Win98 -> XP was, or even XP -> Vista.

XP -> Vista was also still the NT kernel, very much the same OS except they massively overhauled the hardware driver architecture and caused massive compatibility problems for anything dealing with hardware.

I've been running the RC since it came out. The UI is the only noticeable difference to me. *shrug*. Seems just a fast, all software and drivers went through the in-place upgrade seamlessly, etc.
 
Right, and therefore since it's a "SP" to some of you that it should be free (see poorbehavior's post, seems to be suggesting that). *Roll eyes*
 
lowteckh said:
Right, and therefore since it's a "SP" to some of you that it should be free (see poorbehavior's post, seems to be suggesting that). *Roll eyes*
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Free? *Roll eyes*

No, but the post I was quoting was talking about how the prices should be higher. My post was a reply to that. Thus the quote in my original post.

Point is, this is just a service pack, we are paying for it, just like Mac users will pay for Snow Leopard.

We should not be, in my opinion, overlooking that just because the price is low.

I think the big losers here are the Vista owners, they should get this free or at a minimal upgrade price. The XP owners are getting a decent deal, this is more than a standard service pack over XP for sure.
 
I'm pretty sure you'll be able to do a clean install with the upgrade disc, as all previous windows versions would let you. It doesn't make sense at all for not letting you do a fresh install.

^^ Let's not turn this into a mac/vista/w7 flame war, some of you are drama queens sometimes, seriously.
 
PoorBehavior said:
Free? *Roll eyes*

No, but the post I was quoting was talking about how the prices should be higher. My post was a reply to that. Thus the quote in my original post.

Point is, this is just a service pack, we are paying for it, just like Mac users will pay for Snow Leopard.

We should not be, in my opinion, overlooking that just because the price is low.

I think the big losers here are the Vista owners, they should get this free or at a minimal upgrade price. The XP owners are getting a decent deal, this is more than a standard service pack over XP for sure.
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$21 more than the snow leopard upgrade to go from premium to premium. Wow, what a huge burden. Maybe MS should start giving fancy names to their service packs and convince people to pay for them? Vista Service Pack 1? No, lets call it "Grizzly Bear" and charge $120 like Apple usually does.

In for one from Amazon.
 
PoorBehavior said:
Microsoft also made fun of Apples $29.00 Snow Leopard saying "Thats just a service pack and we don't charge for service packs" but isn't Win7 just a large service pack for Vista? I mean, why are we so happy about these prices? If they had kept the prices high a lot more people would have been looking at the real differences between Win7 and Vista, but as it is, we are all so focused on this "Super Low" pricing scale to be bothered with examining it for what it might really be, a large Service Pack for Vista, that they want us to pay for.
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exactly. but don't blame MS, blame the stupid people for disregarding vista like RTM was the final version. microsoft had no choice but to whip out a 'new' os with a new name. had vista been successful, there is no doubt in my mind this would have been a service pack and win7 would be slated for release next year. some features like dx11 would not be in this 'vista sp3' but for the most part, it would be basically this win7 we are seeing now.
 
Thanks op for bringing this one up. Just ordered 2 copies. Now I have to wait until October.
 
krupted said:
its more of a service pack then it is a whole new os... that's not even debatable.
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Every OS MS releases, some people call it a 'service pack.' Apple usually charges $120 for it's service packs, a one time deviation is meaningless, furthermore since you probably forked over thousands to apple for the pc, you SHOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR THE OS, MS doesn't sell you an overpriced over-prettified hardware dongle for thousands of dollars then charge you for the OS, so it's completely different.
 
You might as well just do Warez. Technet is MSDN. MSDN OSes are only licensed for testing purposes. That means you're only allowed to test if the applications you're writing with visual studio work on them. You're NOT allowed to put them on your web/word processing/gaming/htpc/etc boxes.
 
DanNeely said:
You might as well just do Warez. Technet is MSDN. MSDN OSes are only licensed for testing purposes. That means you're only allowed to test if the applications you're writing with visual studio work on them. You're NOT allowed to put them on your web/word processing/gaming/htpc/etc boxes.
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Actually I am a developer/programmer, small company w/out a clue apparently about technet.
 
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I'm waiting for an OEM copy. I can only imagine the headaches when trying to do a clean install after upgrading my board or something like that when you have 2 serial keys to worry about.
 
...not gonna read the entire thread, so sorry if someone pointed this out already:

If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions.
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Wow, my old legit win2k can still get me upgrade pricing for win7? that's amazing.
 
re: 64 bit

Didn't Microsoft say, sometime after Vista's release, that their next OS would be 64-bit only?

Seriously, MS should have pushed the industry forward by making Win 7 64-bit only. It would seem a huge percentage of those who will be installing Win7 will have 64-bit capable hardware.
 
jebo_4jc said:
re: 64 bit

Didn't Microsoft say, sometime after Vista's release, that their next OS would be 64-bit only?

Seriously, MS should have pushed the industry forward by making Win 7 64-bit only. It would seem a huge percentage of those who will be installing Win7 will have 64-bit capable hardware.
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The disk comes with both the 32 and 64 bit version.

Also, I picked one up from the egg. Why not.
 
vixer said:
I don't think they charged me instantly. I got an email sometime after I put order in saying my visa has been successfully charged.
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wait, did they charge you or not?


Also sorry if this was mentioned, i have 32 bit xp, can i upgrade to 64 bit Win 7?

Thanks
 
Dumb question..why is Microsoft selling this for so cheap other than trying to make a splash?
 
jebo_4jc said:
re: 64 bit

Didn't Microsoft say, sometime after Vista's release, that their next OS would be 64-bit only?

Seriously, MS should have pushed the industry forward by making Win 7 64-bit only. It would seem a huge percentage of those who will be installing Win7 will have 64-bit capable hardware.
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Anyone that has less than 6GB of ram doesn't get much benefit from 64bit (though those with 4GB on a machine that can only address 3GB probably do). By moving to 64bit only, they essentially force all OEMs to sell more expensive machines. How many netbooks need a 64bit OS?
My guess is 0.0%.

Windows 8 will likely be 64bit only. By then, I can't imagine any machine with less than 4-6GB.

With that said, with ram as cheap as it is I wouldn't build a desktop with less than 6GB (8GB if using DDR2).

darkhunter139 said:
I have an OEM copy of vista I bought on newegg like a year ago can I get this upgrade pack?
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I don't see why not. If the deal was only open to people who bought retail copies of XP/Vista, then only enthusiasts and Technet subscribers would be eligible.
 
krupted said:
exactly. but don't blame MS, blame the stupid people for disregarding vista like RTM was the final version. microsoft had no choice but to whip out a 'new' os with a new name. had vista been successful, there is no doubt in my mind this would have been a service pack and win7 would be slated for release next year. some features like dx11 would not be in this 'vista sp3' but for the most part, it would be basically this win7 we are seeing now.
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I have the same feeling, and in fact this is how it was road mapped out years back....the stupids got on the Vista hating bandwagon though and now the public image of it is tainted (even though Vista truly is a great OS...the haters all fall into one of two groups...Not Using it, or Not accepting some change (which will also be on Win7)).
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
I don't think that you can upgrade from an OEM copy so I'm screwed.
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I don't see why not. If the Egg is selling OEM Vista with free Win 7 upgrades then it should be possible. Same thing applies to those buying PC/laptops now with Vista installed OEM. These people qualify for Win 7 upgrades too. Of course, I'm REALLY hoping the above applies to you/us since my OS is OEM XP and retail XP upgrade editions. I also have a copy of Vista ultimate 64bit that I haven't even used yet so I hope I'm covered.:)
 
darkhunter139 said:
I have an OEM copy of vista I bought on newegg like a year ago can I get this upgrade pack?
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dekruyter said:
I'm in the same boat; bought oem license...I think it will work fine, but like always, limited to one machine/set of hardware.
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BababooeyHTJ said:
I don't think that you can upgrade from an OEM copy so I'm screwed.
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i have an OEM Vista license and i've already pre-ordered my Win7 upgrade disc. if you look at chicago312's post above, he links to newegg's offer of a Vista OEM disc with free Windows 7 upgrade...so obviously you can upgrade OEM Vista.
 
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