8800GT coolers....

Hazaro said:
I used AS5 in the center and superglue on the edges of the RAMsinks.
Click to expand...

I actually just used AS5 on the HR-03 plus I had on an 8800GTX that I had a while ago and that seemed to do the job just fine. What's better is it comes off with not too much effort and stays on pretty well. It won't come off unless some kind of force is applied to it.
 
JM001 said:
I actually just used AS5 on the HR-03 plus I had on an 8800GTX that I had a while ago and that seemed to do the job just fine. What's better is it comes off with not too much effort and stays on pretty well. It won't come off unless some kind of force is applied to it.
Click to expand...

To the ramsinks?
 
blade52x said:
To the ramsinks?
Click to expand...

Yup, it works just fine. Just have to use a little bit. But you will of course need to give the AS5 time to settle in. What I mean is once you have applied it let the vid card sit on it's back while the RAM sinks settle and bond with the AS5 better. This should works just fine and won't void any EVGA warranties.
 
bah sucks craptastically that we have to wait until Dec for the HR03GT..

i was just messing around and put my HR03-RevA on the 8800GT and just took it for a test spin and the temps where nice..

35C idle about 55C load (ATI-Tool's artifact finder for 10 minutes).. Room temp is 17C (mmm chilly)..

i would have left it on but i don't have any ram sinks (and it looks like i need some for the mosfets?)...

if Thermalright doesn't recommend the HR03RevA then i can't wait to see what the HR03GT will do ...

Image
 
JM001 said:
I actually just used AS5 on the HR-03 plus I had on an 8800GTX that I had a while ago and that seemed to do the job just fine. What's better is it comes off with not too much effort and stays on pretty well. It won't come off unless some kind of force is applied to it.
Click to expand...

Hmmm...we're taling about individual aftermarket RAMsinks that need an adhesive connection. Are you claiming you used AS5 to adhere RAMsinks to the RAM on your card?
 
Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive is a permanent adhesive.
Components you attach with Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive will stay attached forever.

So thermal pads is what I plan to use.
 
vick1000 said:
Hmmm...we're taling about individual aftermarket RAMsinks that need an adhesive connection. Are you claiming you used AS5 to adhere RAMsinks to the RAM on your card?
Click to expand...

Oh yeah I understand. What I meant was that you don't NEED AS5 to adhere the ram sinks but it's a great alternative if you don't want to worry about the ram sinks never coming off. I had to do this with the ram sinks I had when I had an HR-03 Plus. The adhesive they came with sucked total crap so I just took some AS5, applied a light amount to each, then let it sit for a bit (applying a bit of pressure when putting on the ram sinks isn't a bad idea).

Again, the AS5 method is just a great alternative to getting ram sinks on if you are worried about warranties. The MOSFETS on the other hand, well there may not be enough surface area on a mosfet to hold a sink in place you may need adhesive for those (but I find taking them off the mosfets is easier anyway).
 
JM001 said:
Oh yeah I understand. What I meant was that you don't NEED AS5 to adhere the ram sinks but it's a great alternative if you don't want to worry about the ram sinks never coming off. I had to do this with the ram sinks I had when I had an HR-03 Plus. The adhesive they came with sucked total crap so I just took some AS5, applied a light amount to each, then let it sit for a bit (applying a bit of pressure when putting on the ram sinks isn't a bad idea).

Again, the AS5 method is just a great alternative to getting ram sinks on if you are worried about warranties. The MOSFETS on the other hand, well there may not be enough surface area on a mosfet to hold a sink in place you may need adhesive for those (but I find taking them off the mosfets is easier anyway).
Click to expand...

You should NOT use AS5 to mount RAMsinks. AS5 is not an adhesive and they *will* fall off especially if you are moving your case around.

Arctic Silver (among others) makes a thermal adhesive that should be used:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_thermal_adhesive.htm

Standard 3M thermal double-sided tape works well too.
 
kumquat said:
You should NOT use AS5 to mount RAMsinks. AS5 is not an adhesive and they *will* fall off especially if you are moving your case around.

Arctic Silver (among others) makes a thermal adhesive that should be used:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_thermal_adhesive.htm

Standard 3M thermal double-sided tape works well too.
Click to expand...

Well when I applied the AS5 to my ram sinks they stayed on no problem even when moving my case around. But overall the best solution will be to use apoxie.From what I remember the apoxied chips should come off just fine w/ a razor blade and some patience.
 
JM001 said:
Well when I applied the AS5 to my ram sinks they stayed on no problem even when moving my case around. But overall the best solution will be to use apoxie.From what I remember the apoxied chips should come off just fine w/ a razor blade and some patience.
Click to expand...
It's "epoxy," and, while epoxy works OK (probably about as well as thermal tape when it's very thin), a thermal adhesive like Arctic Silver is *far* more effective.
 
kumquat said:
It's "epoxy," and, while epoxy works OK (probably about as well as thermal tape when it's very thin), a thermal adhesive like Arctic Silver is *far* more effective.
Click to expand...

Oh yeah epoxy :p I can't seem to spell anymore. But yeah the AS epoxy is probably the best.
 
H-street said:
bah sucks craptastically that we have to wait until Dec for the HR03GT..

i was just messing around and put my HR03-RevA on the 8800GT and just took it for a test spin and the temps where nice..

35C idle about 55C load (ATI-Tool's artifact finder for 10 minutes).. Room temp is 17C (mmm chilly)..

i would have left it on but i don't have any ram sinks (and it looks like i need some for the mosfets?)...

if Thermalright doesn't recommend the HR03RevA then i can't wait to see what the HR03GT will do ...

Image
Click to expand...

Thanks, it’s good to know it works without clearance issues anyway. I won’t be buying until Christmas time regardless, so if the new GT-specific cooler only drops temps by a little more, I’ll probably stick with my standard HR-03 and save the cash.
 
Cough.

The CORRECT way to attach ramsinks is... and ONLY is... using Artic Ceramique adhesive.

You buy a tube of Ceramique, and a kit of Ceramique Adhesive. Mix 1 part Adhesive (partA + partB, mix it) and combine this with 1 part Ceramique NON-Adhesive. The combination yeilds the perfect glue for ramsinks. Strong enough to hold the sinks on, but weak enough to allow removal WITHOUT DAMAGE and easy cleanup if you later want to remove the ramsinks. Perfectly safe with BGA rams, and all the while maintaining excellent heat transfer charateristics. It is non-conductive so there is never a concern with shorting, and the residual after pulling the ramsinks off later is easily removed with the edge of a credit card.

Ive used this since 9700pro days, it has never let me down, and given me great results with ram temps. I used the same zalman ramsinks on 3 different cards as the generations changed, simply twist it off, clean up the sink and ram, and it's like you were never there.
 
is this stuff easily removed?

epoxies are a little scarey and permanent...
 
I ordered the SilenX IXG-80CA from Newegg.

I'll do a thorough batch of testing and compare it to the stock cooler. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
 
kumquat said:
No, it's very tough if not impossible to remove. Consider it permanent.
Click to expand...

It can be made a bit less permanent, simply mix in a slightly larger part of the thermal paste compared to the epoxy.

Not to say it'll be a quick removal, but ought to be easier to remove if it truly needs to be.

EDIT: I'm not so sure if the memory chips on most cards nowadays are still following the BGA style or not, but I do know that older cards that did, had a nasty habit of being yanked off the board (if attached by epoxy) for those looking to add on their own aftermarket cooling solution to their cards.
 
Satyrist said:
It can be made a bit less permanent, simply mix in a slightly larger part of the thermal paste compared to the epoxy.

Not to say it'll be a quick removal, but ought to be easier to remove if it truly needs to be.

EDIT: I'm not so sure if the memory chips on most cards nowadays are still following the BGA style or not, but I do know that older cards that did, had a nasty habit of being yanked off the board (if attached by epoxy) for those looking to add on their own aftermarket cooling solution to their cards.
Click to expand...

Put it this way, if epoxy is mixed right it can be stronger than solder. No one should expect to remove an epoxied sink from a chip. Diluting the compound with some thermal paste may inhibit the bond strength, but thats kind of defeating the purpose of using epoxy.

It's simple folks, if you want a permanent bond use epoxy, if not use tape or some sort of mechanical connection.
 
Sorry, yes it is the Alumina adhesive you use. It's the same material as the Ceramique... it is non-conductive.

Makes a great combo, and doing 1:1 between Ceramique and Alumina adhesive, you get the hold you need but the removability you want, all with the heat transfer preserved.

Alcohol can then cleanup the residue if you remove the ramsinks later.

I've never had an issue with it, between me and friends, a good 20 video cards over the last 4 years.
 
i really don't see the need of buying an aftermarket cooler unless you're planning to do some extreme overclocking. the stock cooler itself is really good already, I have an EVGA 8800gt Superclocked version (overclocked to SSC speed, 700/1750/1000). I used rivatuner to raise the fan speed to 65% and my card idle at 40~42 and 60~63 when on load.
 
question for those with the Accelero S1, did you guys just use the ramsinks that came with the Accelero S1 to cool the ram chips?
 
you guys with the epoxy plans should just buy some zalman ramsinks. they come with tape and stick well. not only that but they can be removed easily and used again.
 
mythek said:
i really don't see the need of buying an aftermarket cooler unless you're planning to do some extreme overclocking. the stock cooler itself is really good already, I have an EVGA 8800gt Superclocked version (overclocked to SSC speed, 750/1750/1000). I used rivatuner to raise the fan speed to 65% and my card idle at 40~42 and 60~63 when on load.
Click to expand...

I got an aftermarket cooler because my choices are:
1) Let the fan make an audible noise and keep the GPU temp to 90 degrees C while playing a game,

2) Let the fan make a very loud noise and keep the GPU temp to about 80 C

3) Buy an aftermarket cooler that I cannot hear and keeps the GPU temp to about 70 C.

Easy choice, really.
 
rhexis said:
you guys with the epoxy plans should just buy some zalman ramsinks. they come with tape and stick well. not only that but they can be removed easily and used again.
Click to expand...

yea i decided not to go the epoxy route (just not worth it)..

i found some replacement thermaltape Here.. Onces this gets in i'll put my HR03RevA back on
 
kumquat said:
I got an aftermarket cooler because my choices are:
1) Let the fan make an audible noise and keep the GPU temp to 90 degrees C while playing a game,

2) Let the fan make a very loud noise and keep the GPU temp to about 80 C

3) Buy an aftermarket cooler that I cannot hear and keeps the GPU temp to about 70 C.

Easy choice, really.
Click to expand...


yeaa i just realized that the fan is hella loud, all these time i was running orthos so my cpu fan was running really high so i couldnt hear the gpu fan.
 
To my understanding, the stock heatsink does indeed work for overclocking. It is NOISY yes, but if you solely focus on OVERCLOCKING POTENTIAL, I belive that the ''low'' voltages are the limiting factor.

To put it simple: You do not gain much overclocking headroom from switching the stock heatsink with an aftermarket cooler, you are simply relieved from having a jet engine in your room.

I can't remember which review I observed this from. The load temperature of an asus 8800GT raised from 93 load to 95 load due to overclocking of 720 core. That temperature was observed with the fan running at 29 % (or is it 26 at default?). With rivatuner, you can increase the fan rotation speed, and the noise obviusly, but the OVERCLOCKING potential is still much more limited by lack of voltage, to my understanding at least.

I would really appreciate if other people could comment this matter. I am not saying that I'm right and that you shouldn't buy an aftermarket heatsink, because an aftermarket cooler certainly will provide you with lower temperatures and much lower noise, but if we look solely at overclocking potential, the decision might be a bit more complicated.
 
With stock heatsink and no OC, can we leave the fan speed as default (29%)? More specifically, will the temperature goes over 80C when gaming?
 
Id be looking at one of those liquid cooling slot systems for SLi cards. I know there are a few on the market.
 
pookguy88 said:
question for those with the Accelero S1, did you guys just use the ramsinks that came with the Accelero S1 to cool the ram chips?
Click to expand...

Yes, but the 3M tape on them is HORRIBLE.

AS5 and superglue I had on hand so I used them. I'm not waiting a few days to mess with a new card...
 
Ok so I havent really been following this thread but could someone list the coolers known to fit the 8800gt? Do any cool all the necessary circuitry in a single unit? (like the nv silencers)
 
King_Weaver said:
Ok so I havent really been following this thread but could someone list the coolers known to fit the 8800gt? Do any cool all the necessary circuitry in a single unit? (like the nv silencers)
Click to expand...

None cool all the circuitry in one peice, except the stock cooler of course.
 
King_Weaver said:
Ok so I havent really been following this thread but could someone list the coolers known to fit the 8800gt? Do any cool all the necessary circuitry in a single unit? (like the nv silencers)
Click to expand...

Uses the 6 and 7 series mounting holes.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top