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Sotorious

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I think i am about to bite on the 30w had my eye also on hps 27, but i think if ima go that res might as well go balls to the wall. AG coating lately has been scaring me. Should i even bother waiting any longer for anything new. Also please tell me someone knows of a nice monitor 20" monitor to go vertical next to this monitor. Pictures would be appreciated.
 
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The 27" 16:9 versus 30" 16:10 is a large perceivable difference. The 30" seems much larger than the 3 inch difference due to the aspect. I watched movies on my U3011 and while there are obviously black bars, they personally weren't bothersome to me. I tell you that those extra 160 pixels seem like no difference, but in practice they make a difference in the overall working space of the panel in my opinion.

As far as AG, on the U3011 which I think is slightly more aggressive, it was certainly noticeable, but FOR ME I had to think about it to notice it after using it for 2-3 weeks. Not sure if I stopped noticing or if I simply accepted it. Not sure. I have heard from many people that the ZR30w has a similar panel but with slightly less AG compared to the U3011.

Waiting is up to you, I've heard no rumors about any new 30" monitors on the horizon. Personally I'd like to see a LED backlit 30" panel. Something thinner with a smaller bezel and perhaps lighter. But that's me talking.


I'm going to be moving to a ZR30W next week.
 
Crest said:
The 27" 16:9 versus 30" 16:10 is a large perceivable difference. The 30" seems much larger than the 3 inch difference due to the aspect. I watched movies on my U3011 and while there are obviously black bars, they personally weren't bothersome to me. I tell you that those extra 160 pixels seem like no difference, but in practice they make a difference in the overall working space of the panel in my opinion.

As far as AG, on the U3011 which I think is slightly more aggressive, it was certainly noticeable, but FOR ME I had to think about it to notice it after using it for 2-3 weeks. Not sure if I stopped noticing or if I simply accepted it. Not sure. I have heard from many people that the ZR30w has a similar panel but with slightly less AG compared to the U3011.

Waiting is up to you, I've heard no rumors about any new 30" monitors on the horizon. Personally I'd like to see a LED backlit 30" panel. Something thinner with a smaller bezel and perhaps lighter. But that's me talking.


I'm going to be moving to a ZR30W next week.
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Yea i have 22" monitors so i know about the 16:10 Only reason i would like LED is maybe less HEAT IN MY ROOM!!!! i know that thing is going to bake me alive as my room does get hot. I also dont want to have a 30" and a 22" as it will do id rather have a nice vertical 20" next to the 30, because ive gotten way to use to dual monitors, not only for real estate but when gaming having other things open.
 
Sotorious said:
Yea i have 22" monitors so i know about the 16:10 Only reason i would like LED is maybe less HEAT IN MY ROOM!!!! i know that thing is going to bake me alive as my room does get hot. I also dont want to have a 30" and a 22" as it will do id rather have a nice vertical 20" next to the 30, because ive gotten way to use to dual monitors, not only for real estate but when gaming having other things open.
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+1 on the heat. U2711 is cooking me alive. So much I'd rather use my laptop for everything till it gets colder outside :(
 
Man i been dwelling on this monitor crap for some months now i need to just buy it and get it done.
 
While my U3011 pumped a lot of heat, I'm sure if you did some adjustments to the brightness you could drop it a bit. or email HP 100,000 times about working on an LED version.
 
Yeah, around 15% brightness or below, the monitor didn't feel warm to the touch. And to think of it, I have never pushed it beyond 50% (except once, when I wanted to see how bright was max, lol). :eek: It still is cooking me alive on most days.
 
Man i think ima bite!! and i always do this on the weekend and it feels like my order will just DRAGGGG ou...
 
Sotorious said:
Man i think ima bite!! and i always do this on the weekend and it feels like my order will just DRAGGGG ou...
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Lol!! So true :p It gets worse, since you actually have free time over the weekends... (well, at least some of us do).
 
I find it is much better to order on sunday night. So you keep your sanity. Just keep browsing the internet for coupons and stuff. See if they can discount on the phone perhaps.

Are you buying from HP or from a retailer?
 
Crest said:
I find it is much better to order on sunday night. So you keep your sanity. Just keep browsing the internet for coupons and stuff. See if they can discount on the phone perhaps.

Are you buying from HP or from a retailer?
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I am buying from macmall seems a bit cheaper and they will take the monitor back even with 1 dead pixel.
 
So i dont make another thread i am wondering those of you running 2560x1600 or x1400 how many of you ran it at lower resolutions for games, because the performance hit was to much? Also what were your thoughts on it was it unbearable? or you really couldn't tell the difference.
 
For BF3 I occassioanlly ran my U3011 at 1920x1200 so I could do some high performing recording and honestly it looked perfectly fine. Soft, but not jaggy in the least, mainly due to the AA and post AA I was running.

For the ZR30w I'll simply have my GPU due the resizing
 
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For BF3 I occassioanlly ran my U3011 at 1920x1200 so I could do some high performing recording and honestly it looked perfectly fine. Soft, but not jaggy in the least, mainly due to the AA and post AA I was running.

For the ZR30w I'll simply have my GPU due the resizing
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It didnt really look blurry or anything like that?
 
I ran it at native res and normally backing off the AA works just fine for a perforance boost. Over 2xAA and the effect is more or less lost on me, lol :p
 
I saw the u3011 in person yesterday and my mind is still blown this makes me want to order today!!!! i keep finding excuses!
 
Sotorious said:
It didnt really look blurry or anything like that?
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Not enough to make me bother changing the resolution. In some games where there is no possibility of me not having enough frames, I leave it high. In BF3 I may be playing 1920x1200 normally since I will be recording gameplay a lot.
 
Yea that makes me mad cause this new game is dropping and it is already demanding even on my 1680x1050.......
 
Sotorious said:
I think i am about to bite on the 30w had my eye also on hps 27, but i think if ima go that res might as well go balls to the wall. AG coating lately has been scaring me. Should i even bother waiting any longer for anything new. Also please tell me someone knows of a nice monitor 20" monitor to go vertical next to this monitor. Pictures would be appreciated.
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I've got much the same question... in my case I won't be putting a new system together until next spring, and I'm trying to decide if I buy a ZR30w now, or if I hold off hoping that something new and better comes along in the intervening months. Is there anything new in the 30" market coming anytime in the foreseeable future?
 
Khanmots said:
Is there anything new in the 30" market coming anytime in the foreseeable future?
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Nothing has even been hinted at.

If you have 1000$+ to blow get a 50" 3D plasma or something, you strictly paying for the resolution with the 30 inchers, not better image quality. Many of the sub 300$ IPS panels offer much better image quality.
 
Except the colors are false (wide gamut) and will look grainy due to the AG coating and the blacks will be washed out due to the low contrast...what's to love?
 
NCX said:
Except the colors are false (wide gamut) and will look grainy due to the AG coating and the blacks will be washed out due to the low contrast...what's to love?
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Well i said the colors are a plus as long as they are not worse then my current TN panel i dont see how it wouldnt be a plus. 2560x1600, thats my selling point.
 
I have the ZR30W, love it.

Great for gaming, programming, browsing etc.

Do it. Don't think, just buy. 27" 16:9 isn't big enough.
 
I have to agree. I just sold my 3 NEC EA231WMi IPS LCD's in Eyefinity for a pre-owned Dell 3008WFP and love it SO much more. 2560x1600 cannot be beat.
 
SingleCellOrganism said:
I have the ZR30W, love it.

Great for gaming, programming, browsing etc.

Do it. Don't think, just buy. 27" 16:9 isn't big enough.
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Yea that 30" made a world of a difference. Can you do me a favor, and take a screen shot of a game @ 2560x1600 and then same game at 1920x1200
 
Sotorious said:
I think i am about to bite on the 30w had my eye also on hps 27, but i think if ima go that res might as well go balls to the wall. AG coating lately has been scaring me. Should i even bother waiting any longer for anything new. Also please tell me someone knows of a nice monitor 20" monitor to go vertical next to this monitor. Pictures would be appreciated.
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The ZR30w is a great monitor. You won't regret your purchase. The AG coating isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Gaming at 2560x1600 is unreal. Its significantly better than 1920x1200.
 
Mr Mean said:
The ZR30w is a great monitor. You won't regret your purchase. The AG coating isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Gaming at 2560x1600 is unreal. Its significantly better than 1920x1200.
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Yea im still gaming at 1680x1050
 
Just got my refund from Dell. :D

So I can now be on the lookout for the HP.
 
NCX said:
Nothing has even been hinted at.

If you have 1000$+ to blow get a 50" 3D plasma or something, you strictly paying for the resolution with the 30 inchers, not better image quality. Many of the sub 300$ IPS panels offer much better image quality.
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I already have a 52" LN52b750 for movie watching as it has good blacks, good contrast, a glossy screen and is just gorgeous.

That said, my primary interest in a 30" display is for the resolution. That's one reason I'll be waiting until next spring for the new system: new graphic cards to help run it at native res.

And yes, the issues with image quality on the 30" displays are a concern for me.... Hence why I was hoping that there was something new coming. Although... I am wondering now, are the newer 27" displays significantly better than the 30" ones? As I've not run with 1600 vertical lines before it might not feel like I'm going backwards if I go with a 16:9 instead of 16:10 AR.
 
Khanmots said:
I already have a 52" LN52b750 for movie watching as it has good blacks, good contrast, a glossy screen and is just gorgeous.

That said, my primary interest in a 30" display is for the resolution. That's one reason I'll be waiting until next spring for the new system: new graphic cards to help run it at native res.

And yes, the issues with image quality on the 30" displays are a concern for me.... Hence why I was hoping that there was something new coming. Although... I am wondering now, are the newer 27" displays significantly better than the 30" ones? As I've not run with 1600 vertical lines before it might not feel like I'm going backwards if I go with a 16:9 instead of 16:10 AR.
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I own a 3007wfp-hc and wondered the same as you. Went out and bought the Apple 27" LED to try out and returned it the next day. The size difference is very noticable and the only picture quality difference was due to the glass used on the Apple vs the matte Dell.
 
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I own a 3007wfp-hc and wondered the same as you. Went out and bought the Apple 27" LED to try out and returned it the next day. The size difference is very noticable and the only picture quality difference was due to the glass used on the Apple vs the matte Dell.
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Very good to know! Thanks
 
I need to stop reading about this stuff and just buy because it keeps unbalancing my decision. I read the 16:9 and the 16:10 debates and i keeps re convincing me. Then i think to my self at such a big res jump the vertical space its going to be nuts compared to what i am used to, just the x1600 being a bit my crazier. I new really owned a 16:9 monitor besides maybe the one at work didnt really notice any difference till you guys shined the light.

It would be nice to have a 16:9 to see how much more different movies look and see how much more FOV i get but i prob wont notice. i am just to damn torn between these decisions and i dont think i want to get over the performance hit.

I am not going to even look into the whole srgb mode and wide gamut
 
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16:9 is convenient mostly. Seeing 16:9 content without bars. HOWEVER, don't simply assume the visual difference between 2560x1440 versus 2560x1600 is merely 160 pixels. The 16:10 simply from being more square appears and feels much larger. I went from a 25" to a 30" and the 30" feels giant even though it's only 20% larger it's a much different experience.

Going with 16:9 for the same diagonal size will feel smaller than 16:10. if they made like 37" 2560x1440 monitors I'd probably go that route since I edit video a lot and I like big clear pixels.

Edit: Even gaming in BF3 on my 25" 1080p monitor I felt like I was playing through a port hole. I'm not kidding. it was very disorienting to not have the height I used to. The 30" felt like a large window into the computer, my 16:9 felt like a peep hole.
 
Crest said:
16:9 is convenient mostly. Seeing 16:9 content without bars. HOWEVER, don't simply assume the visual difference between 2560x1440 versus 2560x1600 is merely 160 pixels. The 16:10 simply from being more square appears and feels much larger. I went from a 25" to a 30" and the 30" feels giant even though it's only 20% larger it's a much different experience.

Going with 16:9 for the same diagonal size will feel smaller than 16:10. if they made like 37" 2560x1440 monitors I'd probably go that route since I edit video a lot and I like big clear pixels.

Edit: Even gaming in BF3 on my 25" 1080p monitor I felt like I was playing through a port hole. I'm not kidding. it was very disorienting to not have the height I used to. The 30" felt like a large window into the computer, my 16:9 felt like a peep hole.
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Hahah since you video edit though isnt it better to edit video on a 16:9 monitor? Well maybe thats not true sicne you will export to 1080p or 720p i dont think it should mess you up in anyway.
 
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Hahah since you video edit though isnt it better to edit video on a 16:9 monitor? Well maybe thats not true sicne you will export to 1080p or 720p i dont think it should mess you up in anyway.
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Slightly other way around. 16:9 is useful since I simply can capture full screen video and resize to 1080p. But with 16:10 I get more room for the timeline while editing.
 
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Slightly other way around. 16:9 is useful since I simply can capture full screen video and resize to 1080p. But with 16:10 I get more room for the timeline while editing.
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Yea i would of thought 16:9 would of been better for the viewing part, and 16:10 to just have more access on the time line. If i may ask what monitors do you have?
 
Sotorious said:
Yea i would of thought 16:9 would of been better for the viewing part, and 16:10 to just have more access on the time line. If i may ask what monitors do you have?
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His sig states the U3011.


BTW, about 2 weekends ago, you said you were gonna put your foot down and finally order something :eek:


... has it shipped, yet? :D
 
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