WoW: Warrior questions

[RESTfulADI]

Prot past tactical mastery is useless unless you are tanking.

 

[gamz247]

I accidentally leveled to 60 last night from the NPC's in AV lol. I only have a few marks to go until I get the raptor mount, so I'll only get pwned by the level 69's for a few games.

What is a good build for 60-70? Before I did BG’s I was primarily Fury, now I’m currently 35/13/3. I have a Shammy friend to quest with most of the time, and I was planning on doing a fair amount of dungeons on the way up too.

I was thinking at least some prot would be good. Maybe something like 6/31/14 to start, and then work back up through arms. That gets me the extra defense, more threat and last stand.

I hope you're taking Defiance more for the expertise than the threat generation, since as a DPS Warrior, the last thing you want to generate more of is threat. Also, reducing your target's ability to dodge or parry seems a little counter-productive, as you should be looking for any excuse to whack them with Overpower.

I really haven't seen a good Fury Warrior since before The Burning Crusade came out. All the DPS Warriors I see nowadays are running around with big 2 handers and specced something like 33/28/0 or 34/27/0.

 

[Space_Coyote]

I guess when I said that I plan on doing a lot of instances on my way to 70, I should have mentioned that I will be tanking them. I love tanking, and it's my main reason for making a Warrior.

I figured a few of the lower skills in the prot tree will help a lot with that, and not gimp me too much.

 

[Ocellaris]

I really haven't seen a good Fury Warrior since before The Burning Crusade came out. All the DPS Warriors I see nowadays are running around with big 2 handers and specced something like 33/28/0 or 34/27/0.

DPS Warrior is just not very useful overall compared to a Rogue or Enhancement Shaman. Compared to a Rogue with Cloak of Skills, Evasion, and Vanish, the Warriors are significantly more likely to die from aggro, AOE and Cleaves (not like you should be getting Cleaved anyway, but it happens). Also they lack the more effective group buffs that a Shaman can offer, and have few ways to save themselves. So basically its a average DPS class that can die a lot and brings nothing special to help other people. Sure you _can_ do good DPS as a Fury Warrior, however my guild has gotten to the point where we no longer use Fury Warriors on 25 man raids unless they are OTs and just DPSing for a few fights.

 

[Space_Coyote]

68 already, yay! So far I’ve been fine with a fury/prot mix spec for tanking, but I’ll be switching to full prot some time after 70. I like the endgame raiding spec listed, but at first I will be tanking mostly 5-man regular and heroics. I like improved revenge for example, so can someone please suggest one more orientated towards that?

I have another important question about flying mounts. By the time I hit 70 I should have about 3k gold. By doing the SMV quests, which I will save, and grinding herbs etc, I could have 5k in a reasonably short time. Does the 300 riding skill require the 225 as well? What I’m getting at is, will I save money by going directly to the 280% flying, or should I just spring for the 100% flying when I hit 70?

 

[Martyr]

you have to buy them both. once you start the daily quests up in skettis and ogri-la (which require a flyer), the money really rolls in. you need only log on for an hourish each day to make 100 gold at least, plus whatever nodes you find, and drops from the mobs.

 

[Space_Coyote]

On a whim of nostalgia, I decided to resurrect my old thread instead of making a new one

Right now I have 1610 arena points and a dilemma. The S3 helm costs 1500 points, does not require a rating, and is a huge upgrade over my S1. The S4 is even better (not extremely so), but costs 1875 points and requires 1700 rating. That would involve waiting another week and, either finding a great team, or paying <shudder> someone to help bump my crappy rating (I could then also get the 1650 rated ring from honor, which is dope).

I’m tempted to just get the S3 since I only have a few months before WLK anyway, and save the 375 points towards another piece of S3/S4. I only get on average 400 points a week, so that’s pretty significant. If I did get the S3 helm, then maybe I’d be able to hit 1650 with a decent team anyway. What would you do?

You can check out my gear through armory under Tankaholic on Skullcrusher, and if there’s any leet PvP players on that server hit me up lol.



Vengeful Gladiator's Plate Helm
Binds when picked up
Head Plate
1483 Armor
+39 Strength
+61 Stamina
Meta Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 100 / 100
Classes: Warrior
Requires Level 70

Equip: Improves hit rating by 12 (0.76% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 35 (1.59% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 25 (0.63% @ L70).
Equip: Your attacks ignore 84 of your opponent's armor.



Brutal Gladiator's Plate Helm
Binds when picked up
Head Plate
1611 Armor
+45 Strength
+68 Stamina
Meta Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +4 Critical Strike Rating
Durability 100 / 100
Classes: Warrior
Requires Level 70
Requires personal and team arena rating of 1700

Equip: Improves hit rating by 18 (1.14% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 41 (1.86% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 25 (0.63% @ L70).
Equip: Your attacks ignore 84 of your opponent's armor.

 

[Jake]

I'd personally go S3, but I'm an instant gratification kinda guy.
FYI once you ding 71 in wrath all of your ratings and arena points are wiped.

 

[RagingSamster]

FYI once you ding 71 in wrath all of your ratings and arena points are wiped.

Once you ding 71 all your purps will be replaced by Northrend greens

 

[Trimlock]

I'd go with S3 helm, the differences between hte different seasons are not huge at all, unless you're skipping seasons like from 1 to 3, the only item I would pay for a better rating on would be the weapons if you really needed them.

 

[xSnowmaNx]

Honestly, I'd just go do whatever it takes to get gear as quickly as possible. A LOT of people seem to stress that you should get the best gear as you possibly can (aka S4/Guardian's) instead of "wasting" your points on older season gear. I'll guarantee you that the difference between S2 vs S4 (Even S1 vs S4)is more than made up by your own skill level. By this I mean you'll likely notice absolutely no difference between S2 and S4 because you'll be losing because of mistakes you've made rather than gear.

There have been people who have argued this point with me countless times and it's absolutely ridiculous. Sure, having the latest/greatest gear DOES help, but the difference between S2 and S4 is so small that you're more likely to never see any benefit because you're making so many mistakes compared to the higher end teams where they all know how to play already and everyone else has pretty much the same set of gear.

Seeing as how you already have all of the arena gear set filled out, I wouldn't bother with buying the S3 stuff unless it comes to the expansion and it really doesn't look like you're going to be getting the rating to get the S4 gear (1700 really isn't that difficult to hit, especially if you play with a druid.) Just so you know, as soon as you hit level 71, all your arena points get reset to 0, so there isn't any point to saving your arena points.

 

[Jake]

Once you ding 71 all your purps will be replaced by Northrend greens

False. If you have good gear from BC you won't replace it with the first green that comes along. The same outcry was heard when BC was about to come out and it was proven false.

I've replaced my two trinkets from 70-71, from the Bloodlust Brooch (badge one) and the Hourglass, to a green quest reward haste trinket and a stacking crit trinket (like the darkmoon card one)

 

[RESTfulADI]

Once you ding 71 all your purps will be replaced by Northrend greens

I didn't start replacing naxx and aq40 gear until at 68ish and I think I even took a piece or two (wraith blade, some t3) to Kara for the first couple runs. If they do green gear that same way again you won't be replacing T6/S3 stuff with greens til at least 75+.

 

[Martyr]

most people are not in t6/s3,s4.

 

[Space_Coyote]

Thanks for the feedback. Normally I’d agree on the marginal upgrades between seasons, but the armor penetration on the S3/S4 is very sexy. Since it stays the same for S4, I may as well go for the S3 helm and save the points towards the chest or legs.

My goal isn’t to obtain the best of the best gear in every slot, because frankly there isn’t that much time left before WLK hehe. I just want to become a better player, be somewhat competitive, and mostly have fun. That way when I start Arena at 80, I’ll hopefully be fairly decent.

One other question on the enchant. Right now I have the 18 stam, 20 resilience because my res is only 320. Should I go for the 34AP, +hit one from Cenarion Exp or stick with the resil? All anyone asks when I try to find a partner(s) is “what’s your resil?”.

 

[zoobaby]

False. If you have good gear from BC you won't replace it with the first green that comes along. The same outcry was heard when BC was about to come out and it was proven false.

I've replaced my two trinkets from 70-71, from the Bloodlust Brooch (badge one) and the Hourglass, to a green quest reward haste trinket and a stacking crit trinket (like the darkmoon card one)

Many ZG and MC epics were replaced by greens very early in Hellfire. The Stamina stat weight change was huge as was the +damage gear available from early quests. Most people likely had upgrades after there first few quests in Hellfire.

Since there is no stat allocation change this time, I doubt gear will become as outdated as fast as it did in BC. It will mostly be outdated by the time you hit 80 though. (see comments below on that)

I didn't start replacing naxx and aq40 gear until at 68ish and I think I even took a piece or two (wraith blade, some t3) to Kara for the first couple runs. If they do green gear that same way again you won't be replacing T6/S3 stuff with greens til at least 75+.

Likewise...I healed Kara in 3 pieces of Stormrage gear. Ghoulskin Tunic is still better than many BC blues.

From what I have heard from friends in beta: Kara gear starts getting replaced fairly soon, 71-72 area...SSC/TK/S2 gear starts getting replaced in the 74-75 range. I thought I recall seeing a Blizzard poster say that he expects some people to start level 80 raids in gear from BT and Sunwell.

 

[Rofl-Mic-Lofl]

Here's all you need to know about 2v2s as a warrior:

Play with a resto druid

 

[beardawnwood]

wowhead.com

 

[ben chi(f4)]

Armory Agglomration
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[beardawnwood]

Once you ding 71 all your purps will be replaced by Northrend greens

Negative. Unless wotlk is a complete departure from tbc. There are several items from pre-bc that are still used in tbc. Rejuv gem and neltharion's tear for example.

 

[Martyr]

Negative. Unless wotlk is a complete departure from tbc. There are several items from pre-bc that are still used in tbc. Rejuv gem and neltharion's tear for example.

thats only because blizzad doesnt buff the casters like they do melee

 

[RESTfulADI]

Negative. Unless wotlk is a complete departure from tbc. There are several items from pre-bc that are still used in tbc. Rejuv gem and neltharion's tear for example.

That damn tear slipped through my fingers at least twice. And shadow flame never ever dropped. Damn you Nef.