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worth getting E8500 over E8400?

Only difference is the multi.
E8500 = 9.5x
E8400 = 9x

You'll get a bit better OC with the E8500, theoretically.
 
The difference is 0.16GHz, and the 9.5 multi........for the extra dollars, there is no way it's worth it. You can overclock the crap out of the E8400 and save your money to put in graphics cards, better memory, or a better board.:D
 
NOT worth it all.

You ONLY get 1/2 multiplier higher.

So even at a very high FSB like 400-500, that will ONLY give you 200-250Mhz higher. Not really with it IMHO.

Now if it has a whole multiplier higher, maybe.
 
Strictly speaking in hardcore overclocking (where "worth it" conversations go out the window) the E8500 can and has shown a significant improvement over the E8400. Some folks are going so far as to say that the E8500's have been binned in such a way that is allowing them to reach higher overclocks easier - not just because of the .5 multi.

For no overclocking or mild overclocking, it would be silly to do the E8500 for $100 more - both chips will pretty much do 4.0Ghz. For extreme overclockers though, it's a real tough choice. These new 45nm chips do not like the higher bus speeds when compared to the 65nm's, so that .5 more multi makes even more of a difference when OC'd at the limit. Not to mention some guys are getting a LOT lower voltage requirements to OC their E8500's vs. the E8400's...

I'm still torn...
 
Yes, but how much is that 200 mhz difference going to affect you? None at all outside of benchmarks. You're not going to notice the difference to justify the premium. e8500 is slightly better, but not value wise.

At any rate, most people upgrade well before their cpu's fail (on these forums anyway). Who cares if you have to raise voltage. As far as electric bill as a result of that, it's pennies on the dollar. Thats like a difference of 1 or 2 packs of smokes over a year.
 
Xaijin said:
Yes, but how much is that 200 mhz difference going to affect you? None at all outside of benchmarks. You're not going to notice the difference to justify the premium. e8500 is slightly better, but not value wise.

At any rate, most people upgrade well before their cpu's fail (on these forums anyway). Who cares if you have to raise voltage. As far as electric bill as a result of that, it's pennies on the dollar. Thats like a difference of 1 or 2 packs of smokes over a year.
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Exactly.
 
Some folks have a lot more fun money to blow than others, keep in mind. And for some, the hobby IS that last little bit they can squeeze out, so to speak. These "worth it" threads are always relative. They should be titled "bang for the buck" instead.
 
E8500 binned higher for stock Mhz.

For regular daily task on computer then E8400 is the way to go.
 
Brahmzy said:
Some folks have a lot more fun money to blow than others, keep in mind. And for some, the hobby IS that last little bit they can squeeze out, so to speak. These "worth it" threads are always relative. They should be titled "bang for the buck" instead.
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This is known as the more money then sense syndrome. I can choose to buy more exspensive CPU's if I want to but yet I still try and be smart about what I buy.
 
Brahmzy said:
Strictly speaking in hardcore overclocking (where "worth it" conversations go out the window) the E8500 can and has shown a significant improvement over the E8400. Some folks are going so far as to say that the E8500's have been binned in such a way that is allowing them to reach higher overclocks easier - not just because of the .5 multi.

For no overclocking or mild overclocking, it would be silly to do the E8500 for $100 more - both chips will pretty much do 4.0Ghz. For extreme overclockers though, it's a real tough choice. These new 45nm chips do not like the higher bus speeds when compared to the 65nm's, so that .5 more multi makes even more of a difference when OC'd at the limit. Not to mention some guys are getting a LOT lower voltage requirements to OC their E8500's vs. the E8400's...

I'm still torn...
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Yes, this is right on the money. If you're a die-hard overclock fanatic that has the money, and strictly goes for record breaking, the E8500 is worth the money just to get the higher number. Otherwise, the E8400 is the best choice for everyone else.
 
I was wondering exactly this on thursday night when i saw stocks of both for 1st time. Being a yorkshire man living in scotland , i'd live up to my reputaion & save £50 with the 8400

Intel E8400 Wolfdale Am pleased with the cpu but not too impressed with Abit see the Hazards link :)

luck:)
 
Sorry, who has an E8500 here? They are no were to be found. So how can most of the assumptions here about the E8500 be of fact? I'm on the fence myself. I know I have an E6850, so not sure it's worth even waiting for the E8500 IF it's not much more than the E8400. As far as getting either compared to the E6850 I'd prefer to have the newer tech than the older.
 
We're comparing specs. For a .5 multiplier it just doesn't seem worth the extra $100 for the general user.
 
Ok, I can see that. I wonder if Intel is holding the E8500 to increase the mhz?
 
With overclocking so easy on the e8400. Intel may find it difficult to sell faster versions of this chip unless they skip ahead to 3.6ghz or something.
 
gman said:
Sorry, who has an E8500 here? They are no were to be found. So how can most of the assumptions here about the E8500 be of fact?.
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Heres..

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From Taiwan

Asia and Australia/oceania market already flooded with E8500

E8600 and QX9770 probly will be release in March
 
Xaijin said:
Yes, but how much is that 200 mhz difference going to affect you? None at all outside of benchmarks. You're not going to notice the difference to justify the premium. e8500 is slightly better, but not value wise.

At any rate, most people upgrade well before their cpu's fail (on these forums anyway). Who cares if you have to raise voltage. As far as electric bill as a result of that, it's pennies on the dollar. Thats like a difference of 1 or 2 packs of smokes over a year.
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Why not stop smoking altogether? Then you can save up money to buy another CPU :cool:
 
Ok, well I don't live in Taiwan or shop Taiwanese websites.

I guess it's nice to know they are out somewhere.

I figure the E8400 is as fast and I'll probably go Quad later this year anyway, so picked one up from the Egg for 219.00. About 30 mins. later they were 224.00.:eek:
 
mattchapman said:
Forget Dual Core. Go Quad core. Q6600.
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Gheyest post ever. Take that ish outa here.

RB30 said:
5Ghz, awesome! Is it easy to OC to 5Ghz?

Which motherboard and memory do you use?

Can E8400 hit 5Ghz as easy as E8500?
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All of the 5Ghz OC's are either high-end water or more extreme methods...

A ton of folks on XS forums already have the E8500's and are having some killer results with them. Take a look....
 
Brahmzy said:
Gheyest post ever. Take that ish outa here.



All of the 5Ghz OC's are either high-end water or more extreme methods...

A ton of folks on XS forums already have the E8500's and are having some killer results with them. Take a look....
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:confused::confused::confused:

What the hell is Gheyest?
 
mattchapman said:
:confused::confused::confused:

What the hell is Gheyest?
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It means this is a thread comparing 2 dual core procs - take your your infantile quad core comments into a quad core thread. Need more explanation?

If I wanted a quad core proc, I would have one.
 
Brahmzy said:
It means this is a thread comparing 2 dual core procs - take your your infantile quad core comments into a quad core thread. Need more explanation?

If I wanted a quad core proc, I would have one.
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OK chill out mister. I will stay out of the 2-core threads and stick to the 4-core threads!
 
look at the voltage!!!! 1.58!! I get 4ghz stable on 1.28 on my e8400. if i pumped 1.58, who know how high it may go. i dont have a setup to cool that chip at that temp, as most people here prob dont either. insane voltage for a cpu whose VID is prob 1.050....
 
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I felt this was better than starting a whole new one. I want to see what people have to say to this 8500 vs 8400 question now that they are just $20 apart in price. I'm in the market for a gaming CPU but I think I'm leaning toward dual core rather than quad in order to get more raw power over multithreading, and will upgrade when more games REALLY start taking advantage of 4 cores.
 
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