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Windows 95. Seriously

Jpat said:
Heres a development! View attachment 219279


itll prolly take 168 years for it to format a 80g hard drive. iam leaving it work for the night


Thanks very much! ill update tomorow

i appreciate all the help big time
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I meant to pop in here last night and now regret it after seeing this lol.

I was going to ask why you were running format from within C and not from A and also not giving it any parameters.
 
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So spent all day under my truck changing ball joints and a wheel bearing, Just popping in to say the disk works


Plays the demos and everything

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Also a shot of nostalgia. Feels good man


And the original space cadet before XP



And ultimate doom

 
bman212121 said:
Yea I'd say that's accurate. Surprisingly enough Wiki shows all Pentium 2's would have come out before Windows 98. I can't say as I realized that as most people I know running Windows 95 ran it on some type of Pentium at like 100mhz or lower. You could run it on a 486, or if you really didn't want to get anything done it would technically run on a 386. I think the difference is that even though the processors were out, you might not have bought a system with a cutting edge processor. So the people I knew buying their first pcs probably had older models with a newer OS.
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Reading stuff like this makes me miss those computing days. Yes, I like the fact that stuff is far more stable, capable and faster today but, things back then were more enjoyable at times, more exciting, since stuff was new and unheard of before and fun. (OS/2 Warp, Amiga 500, Windows 95, VLBus Graphics adapters, 64MB of ram, 10GB Hard drives that booted OS/2 in 30 seconds and so on.
 
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ManofGod said:
Reading stuff like this makes me miss those computing days. Yes, I like the fact that stuff is far more stable, capable and faster today but, things back then were more enjoyable at times, more exciting, since stuff was new and unheard of before and fun. (OS/2 Warp, Amiga 500, Windows 95, VLBus Graphics adapters, 64MB of ram, 10GB Hard drives that booted OS/2 in 30 seconds and so on.
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The first version I messed with was Redhat 4.2 (1997). Even with my job, when I think of all the versions of AIX that I've worked with and seen come and go (4.3, 5.1, 5.3, 6.1 and soon to 7.1) it makes me feel really old. And I'm only 36...
 
I re read all the replys and thank you everyone for all the knowledge!

At this point iam putting it on the back burner because more projects have come up. i will be getting back into it soon but i cant rush this

Rushing is my downfall, i end up over spending getting frustrated and breaking things. Iam planning on getting a new 5g hard drive or ide to sd, and a better disk reader

in the last week i got 6 untested Snes`es and 3 game boys iam backlighting. Need to keep hobbies on a budget and i blew the budget big time for awhile
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i think iam going to order this

it seys 40pin ide, is that correct?
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Yes, IDE is 40 pins for normal 3.5" hdds. That looks like it should be the right part to emulate a hard drive using SD cards.

Laptops that had IDE connectors for their 2.5" drive use 44 pins, because it also includes power in the same cable.
 
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Yes, IDE is 40 pins for normal 3.5" hdds. That looks like it should be the right part to emulate a hard drive using SD cards.

Laptops that had IDE connectors for their 2.5" drive use 44 pins, because it also includes power in the same cable.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me!
 
Glad you got it all sorted out. :) I don't miss those days at all, lol. I love that I can put Windows 10 on a USB flash drive and install it so much faster and easier. No master\slave jumpers to mess with, no IRQ junk. It's so much easier now, lol.

Did you end up needing to install DOS or did the Windows 98 boot disk work? My recollection is that Win 98 SE was the first Windows disc that didn't need a boot disk. But, that's reaching way back. lol Oh, that's another thing I don't miss is re-installing Windows every 6 months to keep it running good. Bleh.
 
I enjoyed the way Windows 95 looked back in the day, since it was a new look at that time.
 
Why are you using Windows 95 on a Pentium II system? Don't you know that you can use Windows XP on it instead, which is alot better. Windows 95 was designed for Older 32-bit computers from around the 386, 486, and first Pentiums below 233 Mhz without MMX. Also, it's rumored that you can get Windows XP installed on a Pentium 63 MHz or 83 Mhz Overdrive compatible Socket 2 or especially Socket 3 system like hardwarecop did on youtube and I almost did except my Amptron DX9700 919 or whatever wouldn't boot to floopy, so i could use CD-ROM to install Windows 98 SE and try to upgrade to Windows XP 32-bit. Keep in mind there is Windows XP 64-bit, but it will only work with the first Pentium 4 that are 64-bit and up though.

Try looking on Ebay or Amazon for Windows XP 32-bit especially Windows XP Pro 32-bit, so you can learn how to use a server with WIndows Server 2003 at least.
 
ryan_975 said:
Probably because he already has 95, and it’s period correct for the hardware as already pointed out?

Windows 95 is not period Correct for a Pentium II because when these thing were out Windows 98 was out around that time and the high school I graduated from in 1999 was using Windows NT 3.51 on Pentium II system. Besides Windows XP 32-bit is still better that Window 95 for a Pentium II than Windows 95.
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Also, Windows XP 64-bit edition was for IA-64 processors (Itanium), not Pentium 4s (which were not 64-bit until nearly the end of their lives). You’re thinking of Windows XP Professional x64 edition.

No it wasn't just for IA-64 processors because AMD Athlon 64's were out around that time and Intel Pentium D's, which were 64-bit were out not much longer after that and that means there had to be Intel Pentium 4's with EMT64 to support 64-bit around that time and I should know because I was going to get a Pentium D 805 processor before the Core 2 Duo came out as I just happened to be getter Windows XP Pro 32-bit and Windows XP 64-bit to get the free upgrade to WIndows Vista offer around that time. As I distinctly remember the two year college I went to offering free downloads from ELMS a Microsoft Window XP Pro 64-bit exclusively for Itanium and Windows XP Pro 64-bit for everything else 64-bit, which I still have.
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Your last sentence makes zero sense. Get a client OS to learn how to use a Server OS?
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You make no sense because if he's going to waste his time with Windows 95, which is also a client OS then he might a well try to make an old computer into a server and put Windows NT Server that he could get from winworldpc.com on it to make a game server considering his time could be better spend with a new computer With Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016 if not Windows Server 2019 if it's out yet considering I did see Windows Server 2019 for sale just not the book from Microsoft press. Anyway after all as I said Windows XP Pro 32-bit would be a much better version of Windows to put on a pentium II system as it was Microsoft's dream to complete it from computers that could support and I know it can because I had Windows XP running on plenty of Pentium II and Celeron A systems before, which once again considering he probably could use a higher paying job anyway or might want to start a video game server he would be better off to take this computer and put Windows XP Pro 32-bit and take another old computer and put Windows Server 2003 on it, even if he doesn't exactly need a domain server or a file server considering he would still be better off learning how to do that if he doesn't already know considering he's going to all this trouble to put this Pentium II system.
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Jpat said:
I re read all the replys and thank you everyone for all the knowledge!

At this point iam putting it on the back burner because more projects have come up. i will be getting back into it soon but i cant rush this

Rushing is my downfall, i end up over spending getting frustrated and breaking things. Iam planning on getting a new 5g hard drive or ide to sd, and a better disk reader

in the last week i got 6 untested Snes`es and 3 game boys iam backlighting. Need to keep hobbies on a budget and i blew the budget big time for awhileView attachment 219833
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I know a video that can explain why those Super Nintendo's have yellowed plastic and it's here:



Apparently Nintendo decided to put Bromine in the plastic mixture to make the plastic fire retardent, but it make the plastic turn yellow when exposed to sunlight and this guys video will tell you one of the best ways to remove the yellow. Apparently, those yellowed plastic snes's aren't just turning yellow either according to this guy, but the plastic is actually becoming brittle and will start chipping. Hopefully this won't get me into trouble for getting off topic on this tread either.
 
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My company pays me to stay home 6 months a year, My time is plentifull.
Besides, Saying anything about wasting time is irrelevant in 2020 when so many people play video games and watch TV all day
 
Iam building a personal collection of old video games and tech, and a brand new computer running a dos box doesnt fit in the collection
 
Jpat said:
My company pays me to stay home 6 months a year, My time is plentifull.
Besides, Saying anything about wasting time is irrelevant in 2020 when so many people play video games and watch TV all day
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Is your company hiring?
 
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scharfshutze009 said:
I know a video that can explain why those Super Nintendo's have yellowed plastic and it's here:



Apparently Nintendo decided to put Bromine in the plastic mixture to make the plastic fire retardent, but it make the plastic turn yellow when exposed to sunlight and this guys video will tell you one of the best ways to remove the yellow. Apparently, those yellowed plastic snes's aren't just turning yellow either according to this guy, but the plastic is actually becoming brittle and will start chipping. Hopefully this won't get me into trouble for getting off topic on this tread either.
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its true they are brittle, all the old nintendo products too. Lots of problems restoring gameboys too!
Here is one i rebuilt recently with an LCD screen, it looks so clear in person
 
Jpat said:
All the time, Are you in atlantic canada?
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I grew up in Atlantic Canada. Crazy. In the military now in Ontario.

Do you need anything for that retro PC? I can't remember without rereading the entire thread.
 
travm said:
Ontario unfortunately. And not Eastern.
In a bit of an employment rut right now. Decent job, but I dislike it a lot. Not much for options around me either.
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ohyeah thats awefull man. i shouldnt say the company pays me to be home, But we can only work in the summer so we work 12-14 hours aday all summer and the company "lays us off" and we get unemployment insurence all winter. I love the time off i get to feel like a human and not a slave for awhile
 
travm said:
Ontario unfortunately. And not Eastern.
In a bit of an employment rut right now. Decent job, but I dislike it a lot. Not much for options around me either.
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Join the military. Most rewarding thing I've done.

I went to college for both electronic repair AND social work and then joined the military. It was the best choice I ever made.
 
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Jpat said:
Join the military. Most rewarding thing I've done.

I went to college for both electronic repair AND social work and then joined the military. It was the best choice I ever made.
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I looked into it almost ten years ago. The recruiter basically said no we don't need you. Now I'm 36, not sure I'd be a good fit.
 
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pendragon1 said:
can i work from home in alberta?
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You can if you beleive you can :) i dont work from home tho
I dont realy work at work either
auntjemima said:
Join the military. Most rewarding thing I've done.

I went to college for both electronic repair AND social work and then joined the military. It was the best choice I ever made.
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Its a great choice for many folks, i respect that career! i know i couldnt do it
 
travm said:
I looked into it almost ten years ago. The recruiter basically said no we don't need you. Now I'm 36, not sure I'd be a good fit.
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I am 36 as well with 15 years under my belt. People of all ages join. When I was on basic training at 21, one of the other guys was 55.
 
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Iam pretty much ready to expire. I got a hard drive SD unit, the computer recognizes it and likes it but still no disk drive will work, ive tried 7 now so its a software issue i guess.
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I switch to a different project pc. its an MSI with an intel celeron that had NT on it. The sd card reader works on it but Still the cd rom wont work. i guess my startup disk doesnt have a cdrom driver? i dunno
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So no iam on my no name windows 95 gaming PC and backing up the entire c: drive to my SD card unit. i dont even know what iam trying to accomplish but iam hoping it will duplicate my good c: drive so i can plug it into the other computer
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Jpat said:
Iam pretty much ready to expire. I got a hard drive SD unit, the computer recognizes it and likes it but still no disk drive will work, ive tried 7 now so its a software issue i guess. View attachment 233116


I switch to a different project pc. its an MSI with an intel celeron that had NT on it. The sd card reader works on it but Still the cd rom wont work. i guess my startup disk doesnt have a cdrom driver? i dunnoView attachment 233117


So no iam on my no name windows 95 gaming PC and backing up the entire c: drive to my SD card unit. i dont even know what iam trying to accomplish but iam hoping it will duplicate my good c: drive so i can plug it into the other computer View attachment 233118
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that room looks just like the shop i worked in in 2000ish. even the pile of old systems under the homemade desk. oh the mamories....
 
Two hours into the backup and it seys insert a new tape ! Arg.
 
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I may need to unsub from this thread.
I want all your stuff.
Regret getting rid of all my old gear.
 
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What are you using for a boot disk?
You need a good boot disk to be able to format the drive.

Have you tried plugging the SD - HDD adapter into a working computer, and formatting the SD drive FAT32(or 16?) and setting up your partitions before putting it in the target computer?
 
travm said:
I may need to unsub from this thread.
I want all your stuff.
Regret getting rid of all my old gear.
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Ive done it too. Back when a windows 3.1 pc was 40$ i mustve tossed 15 of them... Now they are soo hard to find. And thanks! its not alot of hardware, i pretty much only collect from value village and yardsales
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travm said:
What are you using for a boot disk?
You need a good boot disk to be able to format the drive.

Have you tried plugging the SD - HDD adapter into a working computer, and formatting the SD drive FAT32(or 16?) and setting up your partitions before putting it in the target computer?
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i did both and i still cant access the cdrom drive

i think both my PCs are expecting a floppy disk copy of win95 so the boot disks dont have the cdrom drivers

iam trying to copy the entire HD now
 
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