I've has about 6 or so.
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Why P6701?
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I've has about 6 or so.
I get them on my slowest SMP system roughly 2-3 times a month. For some reason these WUs really like that system. Don't know why, perhaps it's because of the AMD processors... I have one being processed now, wanna see part of the log for the fun of it, LOL? Here it is...
[20:20:40] + Processing work unit
[20:20:40] Core required: FahCore_a3.exe
[20:20:40] Core found.
[20:20:40] Working on queue slot 01 [October 25 20:20:40 UTC]
[20:20:40] + Working ...
[20:20:40]
[20:20:40] *------------------------------*
[20:20:40] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[20:20:40] Version 2.22 (Mar 12, 2010)
[20:20:40]
[20:20:40] Preparing to commence simulation
[20:20:40] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[20:20:40] - Not checking prior termination.
[20:20:42] - Expanded 7883128 -> 10126021 (decompressed 128.4 percent)
[20:20:42] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=7883128 data_size=10126021, decompressed_data_size=10126021 diff=0
[20:20:42] - Digital signature verified
[20:20:42]
[20:20:42] Project: 6041 (Run 0, Clone 214, Gen 76)
[20:20:42]
[20:20:42] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[20:20:42] Entering M.D.
[20:20:51] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
[21:09:54] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[21:54:40] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[22:37:25] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[23:22:40] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
[00:12:11] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[01:01:36] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)
[01:50:45] Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps (7%)
[02:39:38] Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps (8%)
[03:29:02] Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps (9%)
[04:18:59] Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps (10%)...
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these 6701's are horrible... I am getting more PPD out of an 8800GT than an i7 920 @ 3.6ghz
8~ minute frame times 1780~ppd!!!
8~ minute frame times 1780~ppd!!!
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Something is wrong with your system. I have an X4 @ 3.4 Ghz with a GTX 460 folding and I do 4000 PPD on a 6701.these 6701's are horrible... I am getting more PPD out of an 8800GT than an i7 920 @ 3.6ghz
8~ minute frame times 1780~ppd!!!
Edit: if you are doing 8 minute frame times, you should be getting around 11.5K PPD.
Yep, that makes sense and is similar to my octal-core systems clocked from 2.6-2.8GHz.
On a positive note, the wave of 67's *seems* to have abated a bit, I'm getting more of the P60xx WUs. Can't say if this is just a respite...
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heres what I am seeing
FahSpy is miscalculating the PPD. It happens a lot with this monitoring app, unfortunately. Calculate your total PPD using this calculator. Others are going to recommend using HFM (an inevitable posting).
Yeah, something is definitely wrong as you will be missing the preferred deadline by more than 24 hours. However, you are doing 7m 20s frame times so you should easily meet the preferred deadline. Looks like something is goofed with your FAHSpy. Can you install HFM.net and see what that says?
Edit: 7m 20s frame times should yield 12.5K PPD.
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interesting... I never liked HFM due to its lack of bargraphs, I like to glance at the monitor and see where everything is at... although the colored squares are nice
I installed it anyway and FAHSpy and HFM agree on the GPU PPD's but the CPU PPD's are way off... saying my 920 on that 6701 is getting 12492PPD and my QX6700 on a 6056 is getting 6188PPD
I installed it anyway and FAHSpy and HFM agree on the GPU PPD's but the CPU PPD's are way off... saying my 920 on that 6701 is getting 12492PPD and my QX6700 on a 6056 is getting 6188PPD
You're the same as I am and add to that the fact the data looks horribly condensed on high res displays...I get cross-eyed looking at it for more than a minute.
I don't know what's up with FahSpy and the SMP clients. It has always been reporting weird figures, but only half the time. Sometimes it is spot on accurate... There's a bug in there for sure and it needs fixing.
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bonus points yo... fahspy doesnt show bonus points. you either get the graph junk and no bonus points or no graph junk and bonus points with HFM. just how it goes.
It does but not all the time (don't ask). With -bigadv the bonus is always displayed. It's a trade off I choose for not needing glasses to read the layout - or a microscope.
It does but not all the time (don't ask). With -bigadv the bonus is always displayed. It's a trade off I choose for not needing glasses to read the layout - or a microscope.
The problem with FAHSpy is that, although it does calculate bonus points, it hasn't been updated for A3 WU's. When bigadv bonus points was added to it at the beginning of the year, it was for A2 bigadv and it hasn't been updated since. So you are both right.
Can't speak for others, I don't really care since I am well aware what each of my clients is supposed to produce. Only when a new series of WU is released does that cause an issue, but it's a minor annoyance until I get used to the new WU production. I have a very good idea what to expect from my systems and their clients, so it doesn't cause problems. It's a downside I accept for having a monitor that's more legible on my hi-res displays.The problem with FAHSpy is that, although it does calculate bonus points, it hasn't been updated for A3 WU's. When bigadv bonus points was added to it at the beginning of the year, it was for A2 bigadv and it hasn't been updated since. So you are both right.
As far as progress graphs are concerned, you either like 'em or not. I find them necessary when one is running a ton of clients, in my case nearly two dozen. With less clients, yes, they are not as useful, possibly even useless. Some of the old monitors like G@HSpy and EM had progress graphs. I have a feeling the reason HFM does not is because the author wanted his monitor to be an heir to the previously successful FahMon, which also lacked graphs, but I'm not sure of this. Maybe he sees them as being redundant, I and other people do not. It's a personal preference like everything else. /shrug
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i like the progress bar but ill take the loss of the progress bar for knowing my actual PPD. but everyone has their own preferences. i also have my layout edited to only show the client name, WU info, TPF, PPD, and time left. everything else is removed since i never stare at it for me then 30 seconds.
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Avg. Time / Frame : 00:08:17 - 10,470 PPD
i7-920 @ 4.0 GHz
i7-920 @ 4.0 GHz
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Yeah with my i7 920 clocked at 3.6 I get TPF of 7:16
On that note: am I the only person with a 920 that CAN'T get it to clock stable at 4.0?? FML
On that note: am I the only person with a 920 that CAN'T get it to clock stable at 4.0?? FML
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merged the two 6701 threads
haha no. I'm pretty sure my 920 capped out around 3.8 or 3.9ghz. I would be a bit surprised though if yours can't get there.
lol that's what I'm telling myself, too
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I can run at 3.8 but it gets a little too hot for my comfort, and I ran at 3.9 for a few weeks but it was crunching a 2684 and I woke up to a BSOD so I clocked it back down. 3.6 seems to be the sweet spot for this chip.
sounds like you just need better cooling.
is your H50 blowing into your case? With dual fans?
Sounds like with a little more vcore you could get where you want to be. Assuming you live in the N Hemisphere, now is the time to do it. A little extra heat blown into your house will only help your heating bill
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I thought so too which is why I bought the H50. I have 2 fans on it in push/pull config blowing cold air into the case from the back forward. I'm using AS5 for the thermal compound and at 3.9ghz I push 85-90C which is no bueno. I'm thinking about lapping the CPU and heatsink to see if I can get the temps down a bit.
Wow, that is pretty hot. How many volts are you feeding the cpu if you don't mind me asking?
Edit...ah, I see your sig now (duh). That is an awesome OC on those voltages. Odd that your temps are that high.
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those temps at that voltage and overclock on that heatsink. there is something else wrong. unless you have a really high ambient temp you should be in the mid to high 70's at the most.
on another note.. I JUST GOT ANOTHER DAMN 6701 WU!!! WTF!!!!!!
I'm wondering if the H50 sits above the GPU and the PSU, sucking in the hot air coming up from those.........and wondering where the hot air is exhausting.
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its probable. i know when i had my back fan on my antec 300 as intake. i made a card board shield for the psu at the bottom to exhaust the air further back and to the left of the case so that when the hot air started rising it was far enough away from the rear fan that it wasnt sucking in the hot air. made a world of difference with my setup.
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Wondering if you have tried turning the fans around so they exhaust out the back instead of into it? I run a push/pull on my H50 but with it exhausting out the back and my temps hover around the upper 78c - 79c with the 67xx Wu's. I'm also running at 4GHz, stable with no issues with my fans like this.
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The sig specs are for 3.6ghz. To get to 3.9 I have to raise the voltage to about 1.375 and the temps shoot up to 85-90C on load. It's a C0 stepping CPU almost 2 years old now.
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PSU is above the H50 exhausting air out the back. Video card is on the bottom PCI-E slot and exhausts it's hot air into the case. I have two 80mm fans in the front of the case pushing the hot air out (my hard drives hate this.. they get pretty warm)
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670x's are the best WU's evar! Ever since folding them 24/7 I've lost 10 lbs, my dog came back, and people give me the right of way on the highway.
I think that is how I would set it up as well
Yes, I've complained about this before.
Yes, I know we all have to go through it.
Yes, I know you all know 6701 WU's suck balls.
But I need to cope with this! I need to cope with watching my already-pathetic PPD drop from 5k to 300!
I hope we can get these units done and never speak of them again.
Yes, I know we all have to go through it.
Yes, I know you all know 6701 WU's suck balls.
But I need to cope with this! I need to cope with watching my already-pathetic PPD drop from 5k to 300!
I hope we can get these units done and never speak of them again.
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ya that setup would not work for me... all my front fans suck air in, and everything in the back blows out on all my machines since I have many towers all sitting right next to each other... cold air in via front, all hot air goes out the back
Ya'll want some cheese to go with ya'lls whine? Between 6701, slow GPU WUs, and BWM, ya'll are a whiney bunch lately. Sheesh.
I've mentioned this before but no one seems to care as they are too focused on maximum PPD. However, 6701 and 6702 are doing some very important science no other WUs are doing right now.
I've mentioned this before but no one seems to care as they are too focused on maximum PPD. However, 6701 and 6702 are doing some very important science no other WUs are doing right now.
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Looks like a server is down... got a 6701 that won't upload to http://171.64.65.56:8080/
It's not down, just very high netload at the moment. Happens frequently with all SMP servers. It will upload in due time.
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It's called PMS (ppd madness syndrome).