WHY is this FAKE!? ;_;

VanGoghComplex

VanGoghComplex

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I FULLY understand that putting a $100 waterblock on a $150 card is ridiculous.

I don't care. I want to eliminate the tiny whiny fans on my 1050ti. I'm not looking for overclocking headroom here. Just quiet cooling!

Why must you be so cruel, EKWB!? :cry:
 
Plenty of water blocks for videocards but yes.. I know it hurts not having the antivirus in the water block.
 
modi123 said:
Plenty of water blocks for videocards but yes.. I know it hurts not having the antivirus in the water block.
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I don't even get the "antivirus" part of the joke. The low-profile full-cover block, I thought, was the "joke"... and that's what hurts, 'cause the low profile full-cover block is exactly what I want. ;_;
 
modi123 said:
Ok.. now you have me confused. They have whole block coolers with slim profiles.

Example:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709089
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bykski-FOU...ounders-GTX-1080-with-Backplate-/112271783573
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Oh, I see.

I'm referring to low-profile in terms of card "height" as measured off the mobo, by which I mean a card like this: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-4GT-LP.html

I think you're referring to low-profile in terms of PCI slot width, such as single-slot vs dual-slot card.
 
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You could always just custom fit a generic block though, right?

I've cosidered doing a KVM passthrough build, where my big GPU gets passed through to a Windows VM and I keep a small GPU (GeForce GT1030?) for the host/Linux install. Would be kinda neat to be able to water cool that too to keep the noise down (fan model) and get the little heat it does pput out out of the case (fanless model)
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
You could always just custom fit a generic block though, right?

I've cosidered doing a KVM passthrough build, where my big GPU gets passed through to a Windows VM and I keep a small GPU (GeForce GT1030?) for the host/Linux install. Would be kinda neat to be able to water cool that too to keep the noise down (fan model) and get the little heat it does pput out out of the case (fanless model)
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I think I could, with the right tools, but the low-profile cards typically have non-standard chip cooling solutions.

This is a GALAX model, but I think it's pretty common among low-profile cards:

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The mounting points for the heatsink span the entire card. I think I could probably fabricate a simple plate bracket to secure a universal block to the GPU, but then mounting heatsinks to the RAM chips becomes a problem.
 
VanGoghComplex said:
I think I could, with the right tools, but the low-profile cards typically have non-standard chip cooling solutions.

This is a GALAX model, but I think it's pretty common among low-profile cards:

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The mounting points for the heatsink span the entire card. I think I could probably fabricate a simple plate bracket to secure a universal block to the GPU, but then mounting heatsinks to the RAM chips becomes a problem.
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Hmm. Maybe some metal spacers could be attached to the RAM chips using double sided thermal tape, and then touching the block on the other side?

Actually, which pokes up higher, the GPU or the RAM chips?
 
Or, ghetto mod it.

Remove the stock cooler, and dremel the crap out of it, and use it as a base plate and attach a water block to the top of it :p

Of course, won't be able to resell the card afterwards, but what would the resale value of an old 1050ti be in a few years anyway?
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Or, ghetto mod it.

Remove the stock cooler, and dremel the crap out of it, and use it as a base plate and attach a water block to the top of it :p

Of course, won't be able to resell the card afterwards, but what would the resale value of an old 1050ti be in a few years anyway?
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This seems like the best solution to me. So basically I'm using the aluminum of the original heatsink as a thermal transfer medium from all the components to a universal waterblock of my choosing, and I can drill the mount points for that block wherever makes sense according to the component layout?
 
chx said:
https://www.aetina.com.tw/products-detail.php?i=213 sample price is 330 USD, they want a MoQ of 200 for discounts. I might organize a group buy here and on the smallformfactor forum etc. Alternatively or in addition to I might run a kickstarter for the card + chassis if Supermicro is game on modding vents into the top of http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/chassis/Mini-ITX/101/SCE300 this or I can find a shop that does it.
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I'm not sure how that helps. I need a waterblock. XD
 
I edited my answer but I can repeat here: first you need to make the card single slot.
 
chx said:
I edited my answer but I can repeat here: first you need to make the card single slot.
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I don't, though.

I mean, I can see where someone looking to liquid cool one of these in a super-tiny SFF case would have that goal, but I have no particular need of it.
 
VanGoghComplex said:
This seems like the best solution to me. So basically I'm using the aluminum of the original heatsink as a thermal transfer medium from all the components to a universal waterblock of my choosing, and I can drill the mount points for that block wherever makes sense according to the component layout?
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That's sortof what I was thinking.

The trick is going to be how to get the aluminum of the original flat enough to have a good mounting surface
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
That's sortof what I was thinking.

The trick is going to be how to get the aluminum of the original flat enough to have a good mounting surface
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Guess it depends on how much "meat" I'm left with after grinding/milling away all the fins.

If I can actually mill away the fins, problem solved in either case. If I have to get ghetto, though, I guess I'll have to hope the fins all terminate at a flat plane of sufficient z-height over the tallest lower cutout, then I can just lap it like a waterblock.

Do you think I'll lose much effectiveness to the thermals propagating though a slab of aluminum to a bolted-on copper waterblock?
 
VanGoghComplex said:
Guess it depends on how much "meat" I'm left with after grinding/milling away all the fins.

If I can actually mill away the fins, problem solved in either case. If I have to get ghetto, though, I guess I'll have to hope the fins all terminate at a flat plane of sufficient z-height over the tallest lower cutout, then I can just lap it like a waterblock.

Do you think I'll lose much effectiveness to the thermals propagating though a slab of aluminum to a bolted-on copper waterblock?
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Y'know, now that I think of it, there's no reason for me to cut away all of the fins. I really only need to mill away a section of the monolithic heatsink that's large enough in surface area to mount a universal GPU block over the core. Then, the remaining aluminum fins will benefit from case-driven airflow as well as from the GPU block mated to it.

This'll definitely require some mill time though.
 
Let me be entirely clear. I have never done this, so I can't offer much advice in this regard. I was just trying to think of a solution.

If you have access to a talented machinist, and a shop, that might help :p
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Let me be entirely clear. I have never done this, so I can't offer much advice in this regard. I was just trying to think of a solution.

If you have access to a talented machinist, and a shop, that might help :p
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Still though. It's not without merit. It's essentially what the AlphaCool GPX blocks are; a core-only waterblock and a giant monolithic heatsink for the rest of the card. =D
 
I just realized I have a GTX 750ti low profile card that I can do a proof of concept on.

I'll make another thread when that day comes. For now it's time to start seeing if I've got a maker shop with a CNC machine available to me. =D
 
If you we're going to go so far as to mill things, you might as well just make a custom water block, no?
 
Emission said:
If you we're going to go so far as to mill things, you might as well just make a custom water block, no?
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The answer to that question lies in the skill gap between milling a flat surface onto a pre-existing heatsink that's already profiled for the card in question, and... creating an actual waterblock.

It's really a question of cost. I'm gonna have to rent time on the necessary equipment, or pay someone else to do it, and milling a flat onto an existing piece is a lot cheaper either way.
 
Could an existing universal VGA waterblock be modified, or a bracket be made, for it to fit?

Something like this, a Swiftech MCW80 or similar:
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Emission said:
Could an existing universal VGA waterblock be modified, or a bracket be made, for it to fit?

Something like this, a Swiftech MCW80 or similar:
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Something very much like that is what I'm planning on slapping atop The milled-down stock aluminum heatsink.

That heatsink appears to be full-cover, in that it contacts the core as well as the RAM chips and VRMs (maybe?). That's why I'm thinking of using it as a baseplate to put a small universal waterblock on. That Swifty unit you posted is on my short list, the other one I'm looking at is a Koolance.
 
Leave it to the Chinese aftermarket!

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Now to decide if I try to exchange the MSI card for a Gigabyte one.

Anyone ever use any Bykski blocks? They look decent but I haven't seen any reviews on their stuff.
 
VanGoghComplex said:
Leave it to the Chinese aftermarket!

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Now to decide if I try to exchange the MSI card for a Gigabyte one.

Anyone ever use any Bykski blocks? They look decent but I haven't seen any reviews on their stuff.
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They Gaines notoriety as being one of the first to come out with a Threadripper block, but I had never heard of them before that.

I vaguely remember Kyle talking about getting one to test it for the TR. Do a quick search on the main news page. He might have actually done it. Can't remember.

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Here is the H comparison of Threadripper blocks which includes a Bykski model.

I know, it's a CPU block, not a GPU block, but at least it can serve as a indication of where they are hopeless or not.
 
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