Why Google Launched a Browser

Finally, Google Chrome is a fully open source browser. We want others to adopt ideas from us -- just as we've adopted good ideas from others.
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I interpret this quote from the comic as meaning:

Google Chrome is open source because we want other browser applications to run Google websites quicker and give us more users and popularity!
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Everyone seems to be asking themselves why Google launched a browser... I guess their ties to Mozilla cloud the issue, but it seems like kind of a trick question. Why wouldn't they launch a browser if someone there came up w/at 'least a couple of original elements to bring to the table? There's no downside to it, it's like everything else they do... Throw it out there and see what sticks.

At worst they get some press and then it fades into obscurity, maybe whatever novel code lies in there gets picked up elsewhere since it's open source. At best they further erode IE's market share... The biggest barrier FF faced is not people accepting it over IE, anyone that has FF installed on their machine and set it as default browser will probably have no issues using it over IE, the biggest barrier is just the average joe realizing there's actually worthy alternatives to IE.
 
Page 3 of that slideshow they talk about people using it to adopt new ideas.

Meanwhile they think the unassuming public is ignore that blatant line of bullshit hidden in their EULA:
you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services.
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And down the drain it goes.
 
People are so high on Google, and Apple, these days that either company could release/sell a steaming pile of dog crap and folks would still buy it. The hype is just that....hype.

Ever notice that all Google programs are perpetually in beta?
 
Is it just me, or does this browser tank a little when scrolling past Flash content? Sort of like IE7 did when it first appeared on the scene.
 
Wildman_CAL said:
People are so high on Google, and Apple, these days that either company could release/sell a steaming pile of dog crap and folks would still buy it. The hype is just that....hype.

Ever notice that all Google programs are perpetually in beta?
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Technically every software we ever use are perpetually in beta as there's a never ending flux of upgrades and updates as bugs and security holes are found.

I guess Google just feels it's more honest keeping the beta tags up - probably as a legal disclaimer of sorts.
 
Meticulously informative, yes. Hilarious? Eh...

It did convice me to give Chrome a test drive though, so effective nonetheless. Plus I dig Scott McCloud's work.
 
Mav451 said:
Page 3 of that slideshow they talk about people using it to adopt new ideas.

Meanwhile they think the unassuming public is ignore that blatant line of bullshit hidden in their EULA:
Quote:
you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services.


And down the drain it goes.
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The minute I saw that line,I decided there was no way that browser was getting on my system.Far as I'm concerned,that agreement outweighs any real benefit the browser has,and Google should be roasted for it.
 
some the ideas are pretty cool (each tab = process) , but I dont know why they weren't implemented when tabs first came out...
 
I think I'll give Chrome a shot. I like how every tab is treated as a seperate process. Firefox would often crash completely because of one tab and Chrome promises change. Just take it for a test drive, really do enjoy my Firefox plugins.
 
I've been using Chrome for a couple of hours. It definitely needs improvement, but I like it. It's a really fast browser, so I give it a thumbs up!
 
It also installs an updater program, without permission, which always runs.

I can see antitrust implications here as well
 
Steve said:
Sergey Brin talks about the motivation behind his company’s decision to develop a web browser.
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Since when did we start calling spyware 'a web browser'? I think its pretty obvious what Brin's motive is - profit. That's his right, just like it's my right to use a Firefox 3.
 
Fonix said:
Cnet posted some JavaScript benchmark results...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?part=rss
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Oh gee, google's javascript engine execute's googles meaningless benchmarks fastest.

In order of performance, testing on my system, chrome came in with 1944, opera 9.52 came in at 254, FF2 at 64, and IE at 45.

I'll note the scores follow the inverse order of compatibility with script heavy web apps. Lower scores might just mean that you are actually doing some decent handling of odd cases.



SPARTAN VI said:
I think I'll give Chrome a shot. I like how every tab is treated as a seperate process. Firefox would often crash completely because of one tab and Chrome promises change. Just take it for a test drive, really do enjoy my Firefox plugins.
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The problem with the separate process model is that although it cleans up after itself thoroughly, it has huge overhead. In my tests, the lowest page usage (cranking up chrome and loading a page with basically hello world in flat staic HTML), is about 16MB of memory. Opera on the other hand has been open a week and has about 15 tabs (peak about 60), is at 205mb. Granted, that's a lot of bloat from the very memory issues the comic talks about, but reproducing the same browsing session ina fresh start of chrome, gives 202mb. If opera were jsut started, it wouldn't be nearly that memory footprint. For most people, they shutdown and restart their browser more frequently than once every week or two.
 
michael.pa2 said:
Mav451 said:
Page 3 of that slideshow they talk about people using it to adopt new ideas.

Meanwhile they think the unassuming public is ignore that blatant line of bullshit hidden in their EULA:
you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services.
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And down the drain it goes.
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The minute I saw that line,I decided there was no way that browser was getting on my system.Far as I'm concerned,that agreement outweighs any real benefit the browser has,and Google should be roasted for it.
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Does that mean Google can monitor keystrokes and PC usage? Or just POST data and other web search input in Chrome?

Other than that, Chrome has been good for one thing: http://music.download.com/
 
Hey Brin, you are a fucking billionaire. Can you at least start to look one instead of a disheveled slob?
 
Methadras said:
Hey Brin, you are a fucking billionaire. Can you at least start to look one instead of a disheveled slob?
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Or he can look however the fuck he wants?

Why should he look like another tool with a rod shoved up his ass? He can do what he wants, when he wants.
 
I left Chrome open for a couple of hours whilst kicking round the house (couple of windows, few tabs open in each) - I come back to my machine & the disk is busy, really busy. Chrome has read over 1.8GB & written over 2.5GB?! The whole system is sluggish for a while - until I kill it. Chrome had occupied only 68MB of RAM & pagefile was at normal levels. Hmmm... some tweaking required, Google (unless it's a feature)?
 
Nemesis999 said:
Or he can look however the fuck he wants?

Why should he look like another tool with a rod shoved up his ass? He can do what he wants, when he wants.
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Of course he can look like whatever he wishes. It just seems to me that if you are in a particular wealth class that a certain level or modicum of personal appearance goes a long way in helping with the google image. It's just me man. I expect billionaires to look like tools. :D
 
jellyhead said:
I left Chrome open for a couple of hours whilst kicking round the house (couple of windows, few tabs open in each) - I come back to my machine & the disk is busy, really busy. Chrome has read over 1.8GB & written over 2.5GB?! The whole system is sluggish for a while - until I kill it. Chrome had occupied only 68MB of RAM & pagefile was at normal levels. Hmmm... some tweaking required, Google (unless it's a feature)?
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Just been poking around - seems I'm not the only one with this issue, see here (2nd post down & beyond)

P.S. Sorry if this has been done to death, but where's the edit feature gone??
 
michael.pa2 said:
The minute I saw that line,I decided there was no way that browser was getting on my system.Far as I'm concerned,that agreement outweighs any real benefit the browser has,and Google should be roasted for it.
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dam, glad i saw that...
 
No pay google brower is ever gonna be used on my PC, too many privacy issues, seriously, people read the eula.
 
Chilly said:
No pay google brower is ever gonna be used on my PC, too many privacy issues, seriously, people read the eula.
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I meant to say "no way", not "no pay"

... I understand the need for no edit in news comments, but damn its annoying :p
 
Methadras said:
Of course he can look like whatever he wishes. It just seems to me that if you are in a particular wealth class that a certain level or modicum of personal appearance goes a long way in helping with the google image. It's just me man. I expect billionaires to look like tools. :D
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QFT
 
Did anybody else notice his eyes? Looks like he's been working non-stop on this browser for months.

I like to see competition, but don't see a reason to switch from Firefox. With Google funding FF for 3 more years, I don't plan on switching for a while either. Browser apps still have a long ways to come, but Google is moving in the right direction.
 
Camp said:
One Browser to rule them all...

Microsoft web browser that covers its tracks could hit Google’s advertising

This may have more to do with securing marketing statistics & revenue. After all, the company that builds your browser would also be able to define the means for data collection, as well as possibly limiting access to competition. Things may have been a bit more interesting if Microsoft had bought Yahoo.
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all it does it delete crap from your computer, you can always be traced back to your IP and such, even through anon proxies, even they have logs.

//[T.0.P]//;1032982866 said:
Does that mean Google can monitor keystrokes and PC usage? Or just POST data and other web search input in Chrome?

Other than that, Chrome has been good for one thing: http://music.download.com/
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apparently google had this same line in the googledocs, but it was quickly revised, apparently this has also , or will be re-worded for Chrome also.
 
MrGuvernment said:
all it does it delete crap from your computer, you can always be traced back to your IP and such, even through anon proxies, even they have logs.
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MrGuvernment,

I think you're missing the point. Google is probably creating a web browser to secure it's mode of collecting marketing information... which makes them revenue. Microsoft is most likely trying to take advantage of their 'built-in' browser IE to make gains into the online marketing biz. Which would have gone hand-in-hand with their attempted buy out of Yahoo.

I probably should have put the link below my comment, as it's supposed to support my post. And yes I'm aware that "it delete crap". :)
 
Does anyone notice that sergey looks like a truck ran over him?? like he didn't sleep for a few days?
 
Camp said:
MrGuvernment,

I think you're missing the point. Google is probably creating a web browser to secure it's mode of collecting marketing information... which makes them revenue. Microsoft is most likely trying to take advantage of their 'built-in' browser IE to make gains into the online marketing biz. Which would have gone hand-in-hand with their attempted buy out of Yahoo.

I probably should have put the link below my comment, as it's supposed to support my post. And yes I'm aware that "it delete crap". :)
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that i was (missing the point)..lol the MS info i read before Google had come out with Chrome, and i had just read about how it was going to be anonymous and secure and no one could trace your info blah blah, didnt really think about the marketing side of it.
 
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