Well if you never fired up the multiplayer mode in Call of Duty 4, you are seriously missing out. You should give it a chance. It is easily the best part of the game. The single player was fun but it is the multiplayer part of the game that brings me back to play time and time again. After playing it for two years I'm in no mood to quit playing now.
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Whos buying COD:MW2?
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Well if you never fired up the multiplayer mode in Call of Duty 4, you are seriously missing out. You should give it a chance. It is easily the best part of the game. The single player was fun but it is the multiplayer part of the game that brings me back to play time and time again. After playing it for two years I'm in no mood to quit playing now.
I hope you realize that Infinity Ward isn't any more likely to give you a reach around just because you bent over willingly.
lol
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reminds me of the halo fanboys of old.
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I didnt get cod4 and told my wife i was going to get this one because i needed a new game to play. Good thing L4D2 comes out a week later because this shit can die.
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It's more like, I'm not pre-ordering it... if it turns out better than expected I might pick it up.
I think that's how the situation is for most people. They don't want to spend $60 and be disappointed, they'd rather wait a bit and find out how it goes...
I think that's how the situation is for most people. They don't want to spend $60 and be disappointed, they'd rather wait a bit and find out how it goes...
Whats a dennaing?
I'd go buy Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare if I were you. It's fantastic.
I would like to know what your complaint is about the perk system. The thing I have always hated about MP in COD games is the artillery, bombing runs and gun ships. If there are more than 20 people on a server, it becomes a super lame frag frest where you can only walk 2 seconds before you get killed by indirect artillery. These things are by far what is wrong with COD, the perk system (except for martyrdom) is just fine.
Actually most people are having a fit without applying any logic to it. I needed to install COD:WaW since I recently installed Windows but seems I lost the damn key. I may get this game after all. My reasoning for not getting it was that I did not like COD4 but it is either rebuy COD5 for way too much money, go back to COD2 or buy this game.
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How do you buy something that is free?
Also, I think this is mostly based off the best buy chat.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/11/pc-modern-warfare-2-its-much-worse-than-you-thought.ars
Support the games .... not the platform.
The whole point is that many of us dont' want to support a game (or developer) that's clearly not whole heartedly supporting our platform of choice.
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This is how I feel. I don't mind that a game is cross platform, but at least give us a PC game, and not a gimped console game that happens to run on the PC.
Agreed.
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From Tweakguides.com...
Sucks for PC gamers but common sense should tell you that the money is in consoles right now, unless you are blizzard and you have WOW
Sucks for PC gamers but common sense should tell you that the money is in consoles right now, unless you are blizzard and you have WOW
No one is denying there is more money in consoles. What annoys me about MW2 is that everything they needed to make it what PC gamers wanted it to be was already there with MW1. It wasn't like they had to spend crazy man hours to include lean, dedicated server, server browser and 64 player limits. It was already there to begin with.
EDIT: and it really is too bad about the piracy, i pay for all my games and it sucks that a lot of folks like myself have to pay for other people's dishonesty.
and those aren't even all the game purchased through steam alone.
EDIT: and it really is too bad about the piracy, i pay for all my games and it sucks that a lot of folks like myself have to pay for other people's dishonesty.
and those aren't even all the game purchased through steam alone.
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I always crack up about these guys talking about PC piracy and why that's causing the shift to consoles, like consoles don't have their own piracy.
Most consoles nowadays, it's just as easy for console piracy as it is PC piracy. Softmod the console, download an ISO. Same thing, basically. And more people own consoles than PC's, and these guys shouldn't even try to say that no one who owns consoles DL pirated games because that's BS. 360? Softmod. Wii? Softmod. PSP? Softmod. DS? Flash carts. The only console that really hasn't been dented by piracy is the Ps3 and that's because of the (still) high cost of Blu-ray.
"Piracy!" always has been and always will be a lame duck excuse.
Most consoles nowadays, it's just as easy for console piracy as it is PC piracy. Softmod the console, download an ISO. Same thing, basically. And more people own consoles than PC's, and these guys shouldn't even try to say that no one who owns consoles DL pirated games because that's BS. 360? Softmod. Wii? Softmod. PSP? Softmod. DS? Flash carts. The only console that really hasn't been dented by piracy is the Ps3 and that's because of the (still) high cost of Blu-ray.
"Piracy!" always has been and always will be a lame duck excuse.
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I have this urge to pre-order MW2 tomorrow. And then cancel that pre-order on Monday and get a used GC game instead.
Well, a $300 Xbox, an internet connection, a favorite console mod site, a soft mod (or a chip), a DVD Burner and a favorite torrent site and VOILA, instant pirate box!
Even with pirating a PC game, you STILL need the hardware to run it smoothly or at the very least to have it NOT run like shit. For most of us PC gamers we got on average $1600 in every PC build (assuming new parts every couple of years).
So for the casual gamer who IS tech savvy and a cheap ass bastard, what sounds easier, mod a console or maintain a gaming rig? my money is on console getting the nod...
I've got so many MP games to play (NZ, Killing Floor, TF2, BF2, L4D, L4D2, DOW2) that I never really had time for it. I've already got an awesome modern warfare MP game (BF2), and that's all I need. I simply don't have time for more, not if I want to get through the other things I have (Uncharted 2, Batman AA, R&C, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, etc etc etc)
I've only ever bought COD games for the SP. They tell an awesome story. ~shrug~ Guess I never saw the point of the MP - other places have made MP games for that genre designed just for MP.
Piracy on the PC is far easier than it is on a console.
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yea I'll be getting it once it hits the bargain bin..
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and I have BF2 to keep me busy until BC2 
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I disagree. (or at least would say *it depends*)
Wii takes no more than 4 minutes and an SD card (assuming you haven't updated to the new Wii OS that locks out homebrew).
PSP takes slightly longer, a $6 tool battery from Dealextreme and an MS Duo.
DS takes a $6 flash cart from Dealextreme and any microSD card you have.
I mean seriously, this stuff is easy. Having to mess with cracks, exe's, mounted images, etc. on PC...sorry, I think it's easier on the majority of softmoddable consoles.
Hard mods aren't easy. I modded my Saturn, Dreamcast, and PsOne myself to play imports (2d fighters)..soldering little wires to little contact points isn't easy nor is it fun; but with all the softmodding possible now, things are different.
I'm not advocating piracy, I don't agree with piracy, and any modding (hard or soft
) I've done is either for import games (rather than paying a premium for an NTSC-J console) or homebrew.I disagree. (or at least would say *it depends*)
Wii takes no more than 4 minutes and an SD card (assuming you haven't updated to the new Wii OS that locks out homebrew).
PSP takes slightly longer, a $6 tool battery from Dealextreme and an MS Duo.
DS takes a $6 flash cart from Dealextreme and any microSD card you have.
I mean seriously, this stuff is easy. Having to mess with cracks, exe's, mounted images, etc. on PC...sorry, I think it's easier on the majority of softmoddable consoles.
Hard mods aren't easy. I modded my Saturn, Dreamcast, and PsOne myself to play imports (2d fighters)..soldering little wires to little contact points isn't easy nor is it fun; but with all the softmodding possible now, things are different.
I'm not advocating piracy, I don't agree with piracy, and any modding (hard or soft
Notice how you did not mention the PS3 or 360...the two main consoles getting the games that compete with PC games.
I dont know a lot about the PS3 side, but the 360 is not easy to pirate on if you want MP...bans are frequent and it is usually very easy for MS to identify hacked consoles with system updates and such. People will say they can play their pirated copies online, but then usually within a few days or weeks they are shut down. There also is no modding that I have seen that is rampant on the 360 (unlike the Xbox which people modded like crazy in games like Halo 2). The mods that do sometimes come out (I have literally seen like 2-3 instances of modding in years of owning the 360) are usually very minor as there is not a lot of low level access.
With PCs on the other hand, we have access to all the files and PCs are made as editors as well as playback devices for software. Thus it is overall much easier.
I dont agree with either, and I hate seeing the PC gaming selection going away, so dont get me wrong.
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Cliffy B's comment is the only one with any merit. The problem with PC gaming is, quite simply this: it's a big pain in the ass. With a console, you plug it in put the game in the hole and play. There's a little more to it nowadays than that (gotta get your 1080p upscaling and 8.1 surround sound rocking), but compared to putting together and maintaining a good gaming PC, it's nothing. Everybody I know who game's on a console consistently falls into the novice to moderately tech savvy category.
Was going to buy it for pc originally, but after the 9 vs 9 limit, no dedicated servers, and a $60 price tag, I'm skipping it. Not even buying it for either console even tho I own both, I just can't play this type of game with a controller. I get my ass kicked badly.
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What the hell kind of builds are you putting together? Updating my 939 opteron rig to a i7 920 cost me 600 bucks and Its been the only upgrade ive done since 2005! I can run any game on the market.
I hate to resort to this, but Fuck Infinity Ward for dumping on the PC crowd that probably feathered 90% of their nest. I was super excited to play MW2, based on my months of bleary-eyed dedication to MW1.
They nerfed it with the dedicated server crap and then we find out that there is no modding, no dev. console, max match is 9 v 9, cannot change aspect ratio from 65 FOV, cannot kick ppl in ranked matches for being douches, the game-not the players-will choose who hosts...the list gets bigger.
NO...not buying this POS for just the single player, as awesome as it might be.
FU IW
They nerfed it with the dedicated server crap and then we find out that there is no modding, no dev. console, max match is 9 v 9, cannot change aspect ratio from 65 FOV, cannot kick ppl in ranked matches for being douches, the game-not the players-will choose who hosts...the list gets bigger.
NO...not buying this POS for just the single player, as awesome as it might be.
FU IW
Ah but also the flip side to that is almost everyone has a PC in some fashion and most are capable of playing games, if not they just need a video card and good to go, but alas that takes some skill or people are lazy. So they go ahead and spend thousands on a new 40+ inch TV and surrounds sound that they put directly in front of them despite the "surround." /shrug
Im not going to buy it at any price. I only play games online for the competitive aspect of them. I have played every CoD competitively and every game has gotten worse with perhaps the exception of CoD2. CoD4 needed to be modded to hell and CoD5 was unplayable. I cant even believe what they are doing with 6. Then again, IW never supported comp play anyway.
Well top of the line video card (or SLI two or three lower cards), 1Kw PSU, 12GB RAM, CPU, Mobo, sound card, high speed HDDs, latest version of Windows. (still dreaming and saving for it....but its coming! .....someday I hope!
)... Ok I realize that I was listing off a new build (sans case). However I should note that I personally put a new build together when I can absolutely guarantee that I can run any game out there at my monitors native res and have buttery smooth framerates.
I realize I should have listed it as a full build and not referred to it as an upgrade.
@topic: Ive only pubbed COD4, so i cant come from a competitive standpoint, but I did want to get into competition when I saw the screens and weapons lists for MW2. Now thats all gone as the MP component of the MW2 is an anemic, withered, tumor riddled pile of crap that went through a code translator so it would work on Windows.
If Im going to spend the money on building the rig at the top of my post, then I sure as shit demand a game that will give me a return of satisfaction EQUAL to the money I dropped in my system. Historically, the two games that did it for me were Call Of Duty and Battlefield.
Looks like Battlefield (DICE) now stands as one of the few remaining dev houses that listens to their clients wants and needs. Additionally, they appear to be unwilling to bow down what are essentially rip offs to make a few easy bucks per user. Having publicly stated WHY they believe ( as most of us do) that dedicated servers are the ONLY way to have a proper online gaming experience instills in me a sense that they over there at DICE are still PC gamers themselves.
You ask me " how should you support PC gaming"? Buy the SHIT outta Bad Company 2 for PC and Battlefield 3! I just happily repurchased Battlefield 2 and BF2142 (cause I lost my copy moving....fail) and because I wanted to show my support for DICE.