Whos buying COD:MW2?

What Platform?

  • PC

    Votes: 140 21.1%

  • Console

    Votes: 86 13.0%

  • PC + Console

    Votes: 22 3.3%

  • Neither

    Votes: 412 62.1%

  • I dont like FPS games

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Total voters
    663
Neither. I refuse to support the merge of simplistic arcade-style console games with PC games.

PC games are supposed to be better in every way compared to their console bretheren and yet companies like IW and Activision don't give a fuck and just want money.
 
This is just another game to add to the list of games not worth buying on PC now... SC2, C&C4, now MW2.....

I'll just wait until the pirated copies have the hacks that allow dedicated and LAN gaming... or that don't require me to be online to play the single player....

Hopefully BF3 will still have dedicated servers, otherwise gaming is getting to be pointless and a waste of money....
 
KarFai said:
This is just another game to add to the list of games not worth buying on PC now... SC2, C&C4, now MW2.....

I'll just wait until the pirated copies have the hacks that allow dedicated and LAN gaming... or that don't require me to be online to play the single player....

Hopefully BF3 will still have dedicated servers, otherwise gaming is getting to be pointless and a waste of money....
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Voted, Nope, Ill pass theres tons of games to play, and I still play BF2 so forget the lackluster Title for now...really still no vehicles, planes and heli's? etc Get with it COD!

BF3 patiently waiting for this title. Not having dedicated servers=Blasphemy!
 
Well the problem is that the developers are essentially driving us out of PC gaming entirely whether it's intentional or not. All the games being made for PC here lately have just sucked. The only really good game that came out recently that I can think of is Batman Arkham Asylum and that would work equally well on consoles as it does on PC but with less stunning visuals. Valve is too slow to release Half-Life content at a decent pace and that's pretty much it for PC centered titles. At least Dice seems to be hearing the call of the PC gamer, but they seem to be in the minority now.

It's sad because many PC-Centric titles are now so consolized they aren't remotely enjoyable. Wolfenstien was an absolute piece of shit and an aborted fetus of a game. Sadly I fear more lame games with that lack of depth are coming and there isn't much we can do about it. If we vote with our wallets and don't buy this shit then the PC as a gaming platform could eventually die (though that might take years to happen) and if we buy this shit then we just have to tolerate sub-par gaming but truly, how much fun is that? This also tells game developers (quite mistakenly) that we actually like these games and that this drivel they produce is acceptable and even desirable. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.

I don't even think that the consoles are primarily responsible. Games like Batman Arkham Asylum prove that good games can be made multi-platform but the problem is that most titles just lack any depth. It's not because the consoles can't have some of the same games, it's because devs are being pushed by distributors like Activision and EA to throw titles out there at a fast pace with no regard to quality. It really sucks. I'm almost to the point where I'm not even excited about new games anymore and the drive to upgrade my hardware to the cutting edge constantly is fading. Games and getting a better gaming experience has always driven me to upgrade. When there is a slump in game rerleases I don't upgrade nearly as often.

It's a sad time for PC gaming right now. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare could have been awesome but even if it is I don't think it will push hardware enough to drive me to want more from my box. Since the engine is basically the same as the last two games it should run well on hardware even older than what I'm using. I'm virtually underwhelmed by most announced titles save for the Colonial Marines/Alien/Predator game and Battlefield Bad Company 2. The latter being a franchise I've pretty much abandoned since BF2142 as those games got pretty mediocre quickly.
 
Dan_D said:
Well the problem is that the developers are essentially driving us out of PC gaming entirely whether it's intentional or not. All the games being made for PC here lately have just sucked. The only really good game that came out recently that I can think of is Batman Arkham Asylum and that would work equally well on consoles as it does on PC but with less stunning visuals. Valve is too slow to release Half-Life content at a decent pace and that's pretty much it for PC centered titles. At least Dice seems to be hearing the call of the PC gamer, but they seem to be in the minority now.

It's sad because many PC-Centric titles are now so consolized they aren't remotely enjoyable. Wolfenstien was an absolute piece of shit and an aborted fetus of a game. Sadly I fear more lame games with that lack of depth are coming and there isn't much we can do about it. If we vote with our wallets and don't buy this shit then the PC as a gaming platform could eventually die (though that might take years to happen) and if we buy this shit then we just have to tolerate sub-par gaming but truly, how much fun is that? This also tells game developers (quite mistakenly) that we actually like these games and that this drivel they produce is acceptable and even desirable. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.

I don't even think that the consoles are primarily responsible. Games like Batman Arkham Asylum prove that good games can be made multi-platform but the problem is that most titles just lack any depth. It's not because the consoles can't have some of the same games, it's because devs are being pushed by distributors like Activision and EA to throw titles out there at a fast pace with no regard to quality. It really sucks. I'm almost to the point where I'm not even excited about new games anymore and the drive to upgrade my hardware to the cutting edge constantly is fading. Games and getting a better gaming experience has always driven me to upgrade. When there is a slump in game rerleases I don't upgrade nearly as often.

It's a sad time for PC gaming right now. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare could have been awesome but even if it is I don't think it will push hardware enough to drive me to want more from my box. Since the engine is basically the same as the last two games it should run well on hardware even older than what I'm using. I'm virtually underwhelmed by most announced titles save for the Colonial Marines/Alien/Predator game and Battlefield Bad Company 2. The latter being a franchise I've pretty much abandoned since BF2142 as those games got pretty mediocre quickly.
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I think I agree with everything here.

We need to stop buying consolized games like the new CoDMW and spend our money on more traditionally PC like games, proper PC games are few and far between now a days we just need to support them when they're out.

If EA have any brains what so ever they will make BF3 a fantastic game which pushes the boundries on the PC and offers up some really fantastic gameplay, if they can do that while not tarnishing the game with consolitis they're on to a winner.

I think if anyone is learning the difference between the PC and the console it could be EA, we've seen the NFS series really crap for a long time with shit support for the PC, often with 1280x800 max res and crap like that, and NFS:Shift was actually really good options wise, in fact I think it got a perfect score on www.pcgamingstandards.com

EA have defined the market well for BF Heroes, depsite the problems with the game its aimed at casual players who want to jump in and have fun without being blown up by uber leet skilled players, they even say so in their advert. They've also made several console centric versions of the BF franchise which are clearly more targeted at the consoles capabilities. If they can carry on this pattern with BF3 and make a PC targeted game with awesome graphics and built around PC capabilities, so large scale 64+ player battles, they're on to such a massive winner. I don't play BF2 anymore but when it first came out that game was so impressive, I played it for hundreds of hours.
 
ThisIsTheNewSound said:
They just don't care about PC gaming anymore. Lets be honest with ourselves, consoles are where the money is at, and that's all they care about. Money.
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Congrads, you just learned the most fundemental reasoning behind EVERY... SINGLE... BUSINESS.... IN THE WORLD!
 
If this rumor about third person is true after the removal of dedicated servers then they will never have a dime from me. I dont pay for shit that does need to be in a game when the stuff I wanted is removed.
 
Voting with your wallet has adverse effects as well. I understand not buying games because of this shit, but the idea of IW leaving the PC market altogether is worse for the community for lack of interest from the market, especially those of us that enjoy their single player game on PC

I understand the debacle of no dedicated servers, but not all people buy the game simply to play on modded servers. If thats what you wanted, then don't buy it by all means. But the lack of sales in the PC market will further the movement of all games to consoles moreso than coming up with new content that is "PC fanbase" friendly
 
Seeing what Activision is doing with MW2 makes me VERY nervous for what will become of Battle.Net. SC2 will be split into 3 games and I have no doubt that they will create map-packs or add-ons like DOTA for a fee. They've already bought Infinity Wards soul, I can only hope the piles of cash that Blizzard makes now satisfies them enough to not gouge us further. Now I'm just waiting for the announcement that Diablo 3 will be multiple games or each act will be sold seperately.

I'm just going to make damn sure to send my money to people who do PC games right and bargain bin anything else. Games like STALKER, the new AvP (DX11 wooo!) and hopefully Battlefield 3 (or even BFBC2) will all get my money if done right. I'm tired of games that should have been so much more (Far Cry 2 I'm looking at you).
 
{EB}NuTSymPToM{EB} said:
Seeing what Activision is doing with MW2 makes me VERY nervous for what will become of Battle.Net. SC2 will be split into 3 games and I have no doubt that they will create map-packs or add-ons like DOTA for a fee.
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Um have you seen the SC2 mod/map making tool yet? It is extremely powerful and whatever the community can do with that will destroy DOTA. Blizzard caters to the community, and their decision to run each campaign as it's own separate game means nothing to me. Each one on its own is already longer than the original game + expansions.

If Diablo 3 was going to be multiple games they would've told us already. Blizzard are upfront while IW failed to mention IWNET or this recent third-person mode. IWNET had to have been in development for a while but yet they quietly released it on a PODCAST of all places after rumors were stirring.

Oh yeah I'm still not buying it. Latency is a huge issue and P2P just doesn't cut it when we had a better option in every other FPS game ever made.
 
piscian18 said:
please take the poll to heart; no one gives a shit about MW2. I'm about to abandon this section of HardOCP until this crap is over with.
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Take heart: every time there is a major release, we see an influx of threads on that particular game. When there is major controversy over the release, there is bound to be a flurry like this. It will pass, and remember, you can always just avoid clicking on threads about <insert game here>, rather than replying like this ;)



I'd also like to take this opportunity to remind people once again that any innuendo regarding piracy will result in just as harsh a punishment as coming out and saying it.
 
Well, for what it's worth, the servers thing was a bit of a downer, I suppose I'm in the now pretty crowded camp that things like dedicated servers and mod support is what makes PC gaming PC gaming.

On the other hand, that airport intro scene... brutal and fantastic. Could some of the choices made there been done better? Possibly, but beggars can't be choosers, in an exaggeratedly gory form this is the kind of thing I wish gaming had more of. I sort of had feelings like this in MW1 too with that intro and nuke scenes, I guess Infinity Ward just knows how to push my post-9/11 era buttons with their plot. IW is being very bold here and honestly I appreciate the effort, even if I know it'll get branded as some form of murder simulator by parts of the press. To be frank, that scene made me want to buy the game just a little bit more.

Infact...I think IW has almost certainly tried to do something like all along really. Remember the pithy little quotes going back to CoD1 when you died? In a way, this is simply that in the most graphic, violent, horrifying, visual form.
 
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strikeout said:
I'm getting the console version so I can get my damn prestige version. I would get it for the PC if they offered it.
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$60 + $60 = Mouse & Keyboard + true 1920x1080 w/AA+AF
 
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none. already have mw1 so i don't really see the point as i was never interested in a story.
 
Already have the Xbox360 version on preorder....I don't really do multiplayer so it doesn't really matter to me as long as the single player story is good, and if I do, I the people I'll know will also have the Xbox 360 verison. I'll eventually get the PC version down the road when its discounted.
 
This game was a 100% no question purchase on day one. However with no dedicated servers there's no way i am paying an additional 10$ for less game. Especially considering recent COD games have featured no more than 10 hours of single player.
 
Whoa, I'm pleasantly surprised how many people are sticking to their boycott. If more online communities have the same determination then maybe infinity ward will learn something from their sales being lower than cod4mw.
 
I'd rather have my toe nails stripped off with pliers than give IW / Activision a penny!
 
I will buy the game before I endure any physical pain. 60 bucks and playing on non modded servers is easily worth having toenails
 
The 3rd person view apparantly in this game also is a massive turn off for multiplayer, what where they thinking?
 
These developers are all hopping onto the DLC bandwagon. You can actually blame the Fallout 3 guys a bit for bringing DLC into the light.

Dedicated servers = no way to charge $$$ for DLC, plain and simple.

Game Developers are making MILLIONS on the consoles for map-packs, addons, "feature packs", etc. Their goal is to nickel and dime us.

Console players do not know what they have been missing out on. I watch people play GoW and Halo, and COD on the Xbox and laugh every time they bitch about getting disconnected, or crappy registration, or lag, etc etc etc.

Then people come over and watch me play some TF2, or COD4/5, Quakelive, etc and are in awe by how "snappy" everything is.

Duurrrrr maybe its because of the dedicated servers.
 
The only way I see this whole dedicated server ordeal as a possible advantage is if they allow cross-platform multiplayer gaming, which I highly doubt will happen.
 
lol, I wonder who would win those battles. Let's go get in a room full of console players. At least we would prestige faster.
 
I bought CoD4 for pc when it came out, enjoyed the single player but the multiplayer is what made it worth it. Now with gimp multiplayer and a price raise I can't justify buying it over other games. Hell, with the group buys going on borderlands and l4d2 together are almost the same price
 
archevilangel said:
I bought CoD4 for pc when it came out, enjoyed the single player but the multiplayer is what made it worth it. Now with gimp multiplayer and a price raise I can't justify buying it over other games. Hell, with the group buys going on borderlands and l4d2 together are almost the same price
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A good point. The game will probably have a great single player campaign. Unfortunately that's where it will end. As a single player game Call of Duty 1 bored me and I stopped just shy of finishing the game. Call of Duty 2 I never went beyond the demo as the game just didn't do it for me. Call of Duty 4 on the other hand had a good enough single player that I went through it 3 or 4 times. However the multiplayer experience is what kept me playing for two years. It's the mods, the servers, and the challenges that kept me playing. Without a solid multiplayer component I figure Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 will still be a good game, but not $60 good. I might pay $20.00 for it to play the single player game and that's about all I think it's worth at this point.
 
my biggest fear with the lack of dedicated servers is longevity. COD4 and most other FPS only last more than a year or two due to the modders. These games dont havethe breadth to stand on their own. I played RVS for 5-6 years after its release due to modders and map makers. The same few maps these games come with get stale after awhile and need more content that the industry just wont provide. Without the support of the community, this game will cease to exist after two years tops. Also without dedicated servers, and I know this has been said before, whose to say IW wont drop servers after two years, because it has gotten too expensive to maintain?
 
For me personally, i was loving this game, i was watching the vids and LOVING the duel weapon option (saw dual uzi's in a vid) and the knife throwing and etc...it was on my list to buy. Then i saw when about to pre-order it from amazon (with 15 dollar e-gift card) that it had no dedicated servers. I used to not know what that ment, until i bought OF:DR. Now i know that no dedicated servers= NO multiplayer.

I am now even with the 20 dollar e- gift card, am not buying it. I even signed the 130,000+ petition against the game. I wont support this turn in PC gaming buy getting it even tho its relatively $40. I will buy this game months from now when its $25 at gamefly or amazon. Or used on ebay from all the people that will buy it, hate its multi and sell it. And i refuse to buy a FPS on a console.
 
I don't play multiplayer FPS on PC anymore except as a co-op. (Still play single player on PC though)

Will get for my 360. To be honest, I'm looking more forward to BF:BC2 (destructible environments, bigger maps where rifles actually have some meaning) and MAG (256 player!)
 
The campaign mode on this game is fantastic. Totally worth it. Can't wait to pick it up for PC on launch day.
 
Neither but that is because I did not like the first game and not because of this ridiculous dedicated server business.
 
Hopefully Treyarch will add them back in, then.

CoDWaW is a decent game, for the PC at least.
 
I'm sticking to my guns this time...I won't buy this game unless they drop the pc price down to the standard pc price. There's no way to justify them charging the same $60 they charge on consoles because of licensing fees when the pc doesn't have those fees.

They're charging extra just because it's a popular franchise and if companies start doing that, gamers screw themselves by making franchises popular in the first place.

I'll pay the premium for popcorn and soda in a theatre because there's no other option...with games, there are tons more options.
 
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