Wait... you're actually suggesting that the on stage stuff is faked?
Superb. A new low even for you. Still, if so that's some fucking fantastic choreography from the people on stage. Congrats to them.
It's so hard to resist isn't it?
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Wait... you're actually suggesting that the on stage stuff is faked?
Superb. A new low even for you. Still, if so that's some fucking fantastic choreography from the people on stage. Congrats to them.
Wait... you're actually suggesting that the on stage stuff is faked?
Superb. A new low even for you. Still, if so that's some fucking fantastic choreography from the people on stage. Congrats to them.
I'm not saying that the on stage stuff is faked but they might be able to do it on stage with hardwares that would never be available to the consumer market. Like I said before, it mean nothing if the technology used is not affordable to the consumer. Nintendo was able to do it with a very low cost. Motion capture is nothing new in the industry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yIUXKu0lAs
I know... I fall for this sort of shit all the time.It's so hard to resist isn't it?
I'm not saying that the on stage stuff is faked but they might be able to do it on stage with hardwares that would never be available to the consumer market. Like I said before, it mean nothing if the technology used is not affordable to the consumer. Nintendo was able to do it with a very low cost. Motion capture is nothing new in the industry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yIUXKu0lAs
Btw, please stop attacking me if you guys can't show me that the hardware used was just a black bar thing like in the pre-recorded video.
Did you see all the red lights all around the field in that video? All the sensors needed for motion capture are right there.
They didn't have that on stage.
Motion capture is just that. Recording an image. What you saw in the demos was them interacting directly with what was on the screen.
I don't know why it's so hard for you to believe.
Maybe these links will help to explain the technology:
http://procrastineering.blogspot.com/2009/06/project-natal.html
http://www.3dvsystems.com/technology/tech.html
It is not hard to believe that it is possible to do it but it is hard to believe that it would be able to hit the market affordably. What kind of sensor would they use for the tech? How much will it cost? Like I said before, Nintendo was able to do it at a very low cost since they are using a simple infrared technology, Sony is also trying to do the same with a simple webcam and controllers. You can also see in this video that it is possible to do a motion capture without any markers, the question is at what cost?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTisU4dibSc&feature=related
"We're going to be launching comfortably in the sub-$100 area," Tomer Barel, VP of Marketing and Product Management for 3DV, told us
It is not hard to believe that it is possible to do it but it is hard to believe that it would be able to hit the market affordably. What kind of sensor would they use for the tech? How much will it cost? Like I said before, Nintendo was able to do it at a very low cost since they are using a simple infrared technology, Sony is also trying to do the same with a simple webcam and controllers. You can also see in this video that it is possible to do a motion capture without any markers, the question is at what cost?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTisU4dibSc&feature=related
So they were not using the black bar thing on stage, am I right?
Kinda hard to do a live demo on stage without the product. Demo doesn't work otherwise.
Now, I should preface by saying I don't deserve credit for anything that you saw at E3. A large team of very smart, very hard working people were involved in building the demos you saw on stage. The part I am working on has much more to do with making sure this can transition from the E3 stage to your living room - for which there is an even larger team of very smart, very hard working people involved. The other thing I should say is that I can't really reveal any details that haven't already been made public. Unfortunately.
From your own link:
secondary title should be "you must own all 3 consoles", that will eliminate half the posters, and possibly get a more non biased response, and less fighting.
owners of only one console will obviously favor it and back it up (theres no denying), to argue with them would be like calling their car a piece of shit, it hurts feelings, so of course people get angry.
but this is the internet, so anything goes (shamefully).
quite amusing to read tho.
You're right... it really shouldn't.What console you own should have no bearing on who you feel had the better presentation.
What console you own should have no bearing on who you feel had the better presentation. That said I own a wii and didn't vote for nintendo. Because they sucked.
secondary title should be "you must own all 3 consoles", that will eliminate half the posters, and possibly get a more non biased response, and less fighting.
owners of only one console will obviously favor it and back it up (theres no denying), to argue with them would be like calling their car a piece of shit, it hurts feelings, so of course people get angry.
but this is the internet, so anything goes (shamefully).
quite amusing to read tho.
Your point? They had a prototype on stage and not a final product that's not even coming out this year? His job is to take the onstage product and transition that into what will be on store shelves?
They never really showed the real hardware on stage so I think it is safe to say that it is still in early developement stage,
Duh? They said that. This thing is not coming out this year. So early development is a given.
Real hardware was shown. Watch the video. Live on stage on the TV. I DVR'd the conference from G4. I watch on a projector and a 119" screen. Maybe that gives me an advantage to see the device.
None of that changes anything. The link from IGN shows that the press says it works as well as it did on screen.
And final products are always better than the prototype.
Like I said before, I've watch the video a few times already but I never saw the real hardware on stage, since you said that you saw it and you recorded it, why don't you post a picture or point me the instant when the device can be seen.
Because i'm not going to go through a online video frame by frame so you can see the hardware. It's irrelevant.
It is there and you don't need to see it to know it. The demo would not work without it. The press used it after microsoft's presentation. It's real. It exists. It works. It's in early development. It's not coming out this year.
How is this so hard to understand? God, I feel like i'm talking to a special needs child.
When did you see it? During the painting, during the avatar or during the sport thing?
When did you see it? During the painting, during the avatar or during the sport thing?
You're right, it was all faked, or done with 10 billion dollar M$ supercomputerz. Those are the only two explanations.
Project Natal is the biggest set up.
I'm laughing so hard that people actually believe in it.
IGN, Eurogamer and Gamespot journalists are currently enjoying their new yachts.Don't forget the journalists who were paid off.
Don't forget the journalists who were paid off.
Remember, anything that wasn't demoed on the stage doesn't exist. All those journalists who said they got hands on with the psp go were lying, paid off by $ony. And Mass Effect 2 doesn't exist. Neither does Natal.
BELIEVE