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whats with everypage loading scripts from vipforums.asus.com?

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Sensimeli

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Just like the title says.
Why is it that every page here loads a little something from the address vipforums.asus.com?
(check the source for every page its towords the bottom= "http://vipforums.asus.com/absolute/abm.asp?z=21")
The reason i even noticed was because, as is not that uncommon for the asus.com domain, it is having resolution problems and every page i visit here sits and attempts to contact it and cant for whatever reason. Its getting annoying having my hourglass and the progress bar running for a min or so on every page load. If something is wrong please fix it, if not maybe tell me what changed today/this afternoon that made this begin so i can make it stop.
running XPsp2, firefox, behind Zonealarm, comcast.
thnx

ps, not a b1tch, mainly a small rant and a heads up to whomever needs to know, (if anyone cares :) )
 
there was a thread about this that was locked.

if you add the vip forums url and ip to your hosts file it wont load it, and you wont see the add
 
The ad seems to be loading fine at the moment.

The ads are written to the page with javascript via the document.write() method. A lot of times, when using write() to write stuff to a page, the browser will continue to try and load stuff even after the code is written to the page.

window.stop() after writing to the page sometimes helps, but window.stop() might affect other scripts on the page.

Edit: actually document.close() does the trick

What I think would be a better thing to do is build the elements that need to be written to the page via DOM methods (for modern browsers) and append them to the document instead of using write().

That might actually help the situation. Not tested, but someone could look into it.

Of course AFAIK, the script isn't maintained by the [H], so we'd have to take the problems up with vipforums/asus.

Seems like it'd just be easier to forget about javascript and just put the object code right in the forums to load the asus swf file. You can have alternate content for the object tag too to provide an alternate image.

As an example, this works well across modern browsers and uses a W3C compliant method that doesn't use any of that clsid activeX crap. It also makes use of alternate content. (swf uri specified in both data attribute and as param for cross-browser compatibility.)

Code: 
<div id="asus_ad" style="text-align: center;">
    <object data="http://vipforums.asus.com/absolute/banners/GAMEBANNER2.SWF?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvipforums%2Easus%2Ecom%2Fabsolute%2Fabmc%2Easp%3Fb%3D21%26z%3D21" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" style="width: 468px; height: 60px;">
        <param name="src" value="http://vipforums.asus.com/absolute/banners/GAMEBANNER2.SWF?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvipforums%2Easus%2Ecom%2Fabsolute%2Fabmc%2Easp%3Fb%3D21%26z%3D21" valuetype="ref"/>
        <param name="quality" value="high" valuetype="data"/>
        <param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" valuetype="data"/>
        <div><strong>Error:</strong> Embedding <a href="http://vipforums.asus.com/absolute/banners/GAMEBANNER2.SWF?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvipforums%2Easus%2Ecom%2Fabsolute%2Fabmc%2Easp%3Fb%3D21%26z%3D21">Asus ad</a> with <a href="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer">Macromedia Flash</a> did not work.</div>
    </object>
</div>

You can use that as a testcase to see if it is actually something with the document.write() method or if it's just something with the servers. Sometimes it seems like it gives up before sending the last few bytes of the swf file to the browser. ????

Besides that, ????

Hope that helps.
 
compslckr said:
there was a thread about this that was locked.

if you add the vip forums url and ip to your hosts file it wont load it, and you wont see the add
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that line in bold is why the other one was locked. I don't think THE [H] takes kindly to people posting ways NOT to see their ads.
 
Tiny said:
that line in bold is why the other one was locked. I don't think THE [H] takes kindly to people posting ways NOT to see their ads.
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Well it's sort of necessitated when the ad causes problems loading their pages.
 
i have no problem viewing the new egg add at the top since it always loads fast and i just like newegg. the one at the bottom pisses me off because it would hang for about 20 seconds sometimes where i could not type my reply or anything, and i never even see the add anyways since it is at the bottom of the page.

it seems to be fixed now, and i have it enabled.
 
the local host fix does nothing for me, so I am stuck waiting for the darn page to load for a minute or so every time

FireFox 1.0.1

hmm..must had something wrong with the spacing..I used the cmd edit and it worked.
 
Funny...I can't reproduce the problem....but then again I took FireFox off my machine for being a POS. I can wait for IE with tabbed browsing.
 
If my browser isnt waiting for the asus.com thing to load up its altfarm.mediaplex.com I will say that it was real bad last night but this morning it seems to be much better.

EDIT: Nevermind I just had to wait the vipforums.asus.com thing to load.
 
yaa, I giving FireFox a break for a while. I'm gonna start using Maxthon with it's IE engine.

I never noticed how much faster IE loads pages than FireFox.
 
Met-AL said:
yaa, I giving FireFox a break for a while. I'm gonna start using Maxthon with it's IE engine.

I never noticed how much faster IE loads pages than FireFox.
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The price we pay for websites coding pages for IE only. And if it uses the IE engine then it has the same vulnerabilities and holes that people report for IE?

I did the pipelining thing for Firefox and it helped it quite a bit for me.

Back to the topic at hand. It seems to be hit or miss as to whether or not the afore mentioned scripts delay loading or not.
 
As a side note, I'm not seeing the Asus ad at all today. Seem to recall that sometimes I get it and sometimes I don't.

I'm running IE6 (sans SP2) and have no ad blockers. Just tried Firefox and don't see Asus there either. The newegg ad works fine in both browsers.
 
I'm not seeing the asus flash anymore (assuming it has been removed for the time being)

Anyway, I used this page as a test to add an html-based banner at the bottom that provides ASUS, VIA and AMD recognition, and a link that points to the page you'd get if you click on the flash ad.

I added it right above the 'currently active users' comments in the source of this page.

Code: 
<div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; background-color: #660000; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; border: 2px solid #fff; width: 469px; height: 60px; padding-bottom: 10px;">
    <div style="float: left; padding-left: 5px;""><a style="color: #fff;" href="http://usa.asus.com/index.htm">Asus</a></div>
    <div style="float: right; padding-right: 5px;"><a style="color: #fff;" href="http://www.via.com.tw/en/index.jsp">VIA</a></div>
    <div><a style="color: #fff;" href="http://www.amd.com/us-en/">AMD</a></div>
    <div style="margin-top: 10px"><a style="color: #fff;" href="http://vipforums.asus.com/absolute/abmc.asp?b=21&z=21">Support the [H]</a></div>
</div>

I used messy style tags so the block of code is self-contained.

It's just a crappy example, but it doesn't look too bad at all at the bottom of the page.

Could something like that (but better of course) be added to the bottom to bring back an asus ad that doesn't cause problems?

If the asus flash ad goes back up and it is still troublesome for people, would it be considered O.K.on here to use user stylesheets or proxies to replace the flash ad with an html-based version (If it provides the some stuff)?

Or, if it's a problem with the connection to the flash ad, could it be hosted on the [H] servers instead? Maybe that would help.
 
compslckr said:
nice program :) i just started using it 5 minutes ago
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Can you tell me if this is this an IE addon or a standalone browser?
 
it is like an add-on with its own exe file. when you run the exe file it has all of your same settings and book marks, the only difference is it has tabs and a few other nice features
 
compslckr said:
it is like an add-on with its own exe file. when you run the exe file it has all of your same settings and book marks, the only difference is it has tabs and a few other nice features
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awesome thanks!
 
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