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What the Hell Is Wrong With Nintendo?

Q: What the Hell Is Wrong With Nintendo?

A: They released hardware that was woefully under-powered machine that is like 2007 Hardware. Anyone wanna buy a new C2D E6600 and GTS 8800 today?
 
I really want to get a WiiU but there's no way I'm buying a dead-end system... been waiting on sales figures to make my decision -- this isn't helping :(
 
If Nintendo wants to save themselves they need to graduate out of Playskool gaming kiddie-land and come out with a serious console. Controller gimmicks alone will not save their bacon anymore because anything innovative hardware-wise that they can come up with can also be re-imagined and added to the "real" consoles as well. Nintendo used to be a serious console contender, but now they are the Tonka truck of consoles.

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wii u had a REALLY bad start. But now im seeing more and more people picking one up. Its 150$ cheaper than the competition , and feature better exclusive( but too few ) than the competition.

Nintendo really need to work out the nintendo account ASAP. Tieing an account to a system is non sense.
 
I think the main problem was people's lack of understanding of it, and Wii U's fate was sealed long before it came out.....I mean, you could see the reaction at the time. Wii U was also a poor choice of name (Xbox One's not much better, though), too similar, and it appears Nintendo was trying to brand a product family a la "Pentium"....People had no idea what to think. Was it a handheld console you could link with the original Wii? Was it a Wii add-on? Was it a controller? Everyone seemed perplexed, and the marketing didn't really do anything to address that. They're never going to get past that, the ship has sailed. It's unfair, but if people don't understand enough about something, they will still pass negative judgment, when it should have been "not enough information to determine." That's just the way it works.

But when your shiny current gen console is below Panasonic 3DO? Now just to clarify, I loved 3DO, it blew me away at the time and I enjoyed getting belittled for wrecking $200,000 cars (check out some of the original Need for Speed's FMV sequences on YouTube), watching Kirk Cameron slowly gain the confidence to make an entrance without falling over himself, getting locked in a creepy mansion, and hilariously and atrociously overacted video sequences....but that console is not really where you want to be measuring your success against, especially 20 years later.
 
Say what you will about the Wii U, I still have far more fun with it than I do with my 360 and PS3. I don't see it really being salvaged at all at this point because of all the hate it gets from everyone. I'll still continue enjoying it while I can though.
 
Nintendo has been on a slow downward spiral since the Super NES. IMHO. The N64 and Gamecube were flops. The Wii has had success - primarily due to its price point - but has ran its course. The Wii U - hell I didn't even know the damn thing was out for months after its release. Its inevitable... they will go the way of Sega in the console department but hold onto their handheld market. Mario, Zelda & Metroid on Sony/Microsoft systems would be rather cool IMO.
 
Loved my Panasonic 3DO too. The Hoard, Crime Stoppers (with the pistol) and Crash 'N' Burn were my favorite games. Plus we got the first "Real" 3D Madden.
Loved my Wii. The kids really got into it and Wii Sports was just a phenomenal game we all could enjoy together.
But...
Here we are a year later, and the WiiU is in Limbo.
Nothing was done to distinguish the WiiU and Wii. Is it a new console? Is it a new controller? Most people don't know.
Where is Metroid and Zelda? No new Mario until a full year after launch? You want to launch a console, make sure those 3 games are on there on launch day.
Your hardware sucks. Seriously, when you're getting out performed by the competitions' last gen consoles you really need to stop and evaluate.
When your biggest selling point is selling the games we played as kids... You REALLY need to re-evaluate your business model.
 
Yeah, they fucked up at Nintendo. They needed a bad ass Zelda, Metroid, Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, StarFox titles at launch and then some.

I heard rumors that Nintendo has been in talks with Sony to coop on Nintendo titles on PS4 if things get terminal
 
I don't think they went in the right direction with the WiiU. Shame, because the SNES and N64 are the best consoles of all time, IMO.
 
I think the Wii U controller was an interesting idea, but it needs exclusive titles that are designed to utilize the additional interface. Perhaps the console was released too soon, with underwhelming hardware and exclusive titles.
 
Semantics said:
Yeah Nintendo isn't a troubled company like Sony was/is they had massive amounts of cash on hand so they can eat losses for a good amount of time. Granted it's not a winning formula but they have time to change things up. Hell sony could have been bought several years back by microsoft, although anti trust laws may have prevented that from ever being much of an idea. Nintendo and Microsoft merger could be beneficial though as Nintendo is big in asia bigger than Sony and their 1st part content is still very good. Although it doesn't make much sense for Nintendo to do so as they don't get nearly as much, microsoft game division doesn't nearly have the quality IP and their market share in EU and NA only makes sense in a software royalty level.
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Maybe NINTENDO could be thinking of doing something totally crazy like purchasing the XBOX part of Microsoft. I thought I heard something about someone at Microsoft talking about maybe splitting the company apart...
Just think... The NINTENDO XBONE !! :O
 
Right now the Wii U has a better line up of games then the PS4 or Xbone. Nintendo's problem is marketing. They did nothing to make people aware of their console or the games on it.
 
The Wii U is a disaster on so many levels I think Nintendo needs to just scrap it and announce a new console.

My interpretation of the Wii U was that they banked too much on another controller gimmick but this time instead of it being a dirt cheap gimmick, it was an expensive one it was most of a mobile phone, in a controller. Because of this they decided to sacrifice the power of the console to save money, so they got a under powered GPU and CPU. Unfortunately for them the timing was horrible as AMD had APUs ready to roll. So now Nintendo has no power and 3 expensive parts. Point is, their is no way to bring the cost of this system down. IMO SONY and MS are going to be able to crash their prices down faster that Nintendo even with much more powerful units.

The only conclusion is they gotta bail out and admit the timing was just really bad. If they keep investing in Wii U in 2 years I think it will be more expensive than the Xbox one and PS4. The wii was a smash hit because it was a gimmick AND it was cheap, the wii U is just a gimmick and people aren't going to pay top dollar for a toy gimmick.
 
Being able to borrow money perpetually at zero interest means Japanese corporations really don't have to give a shit whether they're profitable.
 
rudy said:
The Wii U is a disaster on so many levels I think Nintendo needs to just scrap it and announce a new console.
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That would be the worst idea ever for Nintendo to do. That's just as good as going bankrupt for them at this point. Any future console they would release would get no trust from their customers. You buy the machine expecting it to last a good 5 years, and then Nintendo stops supporting their console? Sega pulled that shit, and look where they are today.
 
THe problem with Nintendo is that they have more and more as each system release went twoard focusing on casual/non core gamers in both the system design and games.

When you can't offer the same experience as the other console developers (in terms of system power) you sure as hell better have something unique and worthwhile.

The gimmicky "screen on a controller" didn't do ANYTHING for anyone and is nothing more then a gimmick they tried after the WII motion control.


Nintendo doesn't seem to get their core audience, the people that grew up playing Mario an dZelda, Megaman, etc ARE the "hardcore" gamers which they seem hell bent on NOT making their console for, and in turn are shooting themselves in the foot.

I would LOVE to play new Zelda games, mario's, Pilot Wings, etc. but I sure as hell ain't going to pay 300+ bucks for a system just to play a very small number of games with 0 third party support or not getting an equilivant gaming experience compared to Sony/MS systems.

Nintendo needs to regroup, make a new system that is just as powerful if not MORE powerful then the ps4/xbox one and get third party support back on track with them, making it easy to develop for (like ps4) and for the love of all stop with their nintendo only disc/carts and crap, just use blu ray like everyone else.
 
There's nothing wrong with Nintendo.....they single handily dominate the handheld market (which is huge) as most of the handheld games are throwback games and most are challenging and are Nintendo/handheld exclusives.

The 3DS has the best RPG's out of any of the current consoles right now which says a lot.

Also, the reason why the Wii U is doing poorly at this moment is only because they have not released any major Nintendo classics not exclusives.

When the new Zelda is released on the Wii U, Fire Emblem, Super Smash Bros., Mario RPG, Metroid, and all of the exclusive RPG's it will be getting, than we can talk about console sales because by that point Wii U's will be selling like crazy.

None of the current consoles really appeal to gamers that want a challenge either.....most of the main stream games are too easy and hold your hand and this includes games such as Far Cry 3 and the Assassins Creed....both games were so easy they became boring for me.

I can only name 1 game off the top of my head that was difficult for the PS3 and that was Dark Souls. The 3DS has a ton of challenging games and the Wii U will follow.
 
SGA76 said:
Loved my Panasonic 3DO too. The Hoard, Crime Stoppers (with the pistol) and Crash 'N' Burn were my favorite games. Plus we got the first "Real" 3D Madden.
Loved my Wii. The kids really got into it and Wii Sports was just a phenomenal game we all could enjoy together.
But...
Here we are a year later, and the WiiU is in Limbo.
Nothing was done to distinguish the WiiU and Wii. Is it a new console? Is it a new controller? Most people don't know.
Where is Metroid and Zelda? No new Mario until a full year after launch? You want to launch a console, make sure those 3 games are on there on launch day.
Your hardware sucks. Seriously, when you're getting out performed by the competitions' last gen consoles you really need to stop and evaluate.
When your biggest selling point is selling the games we played as kids... You REALLY need to re-evaluate your business model.
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This nailed it for me. I was excited for a console to upgrade from the Wii, because the Wii's graphics are terrible, but when I saw the controller I was turned away... I didn't know wtf the thing was.

I think I heard you can use Wii games and the old controllers, but I couldn't care enough to run off and investigate that. Besides my 5 yr old loves the Wii.... maybe when the Wii dies I'll take a looksie.
 
I guess you could compare Wii/WiiU to 3D TVs. It was cool at first but just a gimmick that fades with time. I had a Wii and loved it, but unless you had decent games and four people, I just wanted to sit with an ACTUAL controller and play games, not waggle plastic at the TV. I sold it shortly after and never looked back. When the WiiU was announced, it was more of the same. The idea of playing a game on the Pad when someone else is watching TV and such is a really smart idea but just lack of follow up in Nintendo's department and lackluster other features just made it a miss for me.

I think they've kind of doomed themselves to the overcasualized/children markets now. And maybe some nostalgia people still lingering where people who grew up are wanting more of the full entertainment experience Microsoft/Sony are delivering.
 
Ordeith said:
In the US, the Xbox 360 passed the Wii by the end of the generation. They ended up at #2.
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That's not fair, alot of people bought replacement Xbox 360s. I myself had 4 and all my friends bought 2-3 each.
 
I thought the Wii-U was something some chick was yelling in the Kung Pao movie.

j/k but, I do think it's time Nintendo considers making 3rd party games for other consoles as Sega did.
 
Dayaks said:
This nailed it for me. I was excited for a console to upgrade from the Wii, because the Wii's graphics are terrible, but when I saw the controller I was turned away... I didn't know wtf the thing was.

I think I heard you can use Wii games and the old controllers, but I couldn't care enough to run off and investigate that. Besides my 5 yr old loves the Wii.... maybe when the Wii dies I'll take a looksie.
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It's easily the best controller I've ever used on a console, Have you actually tried it??
 
Nintendo has a lot of problems with WiiU. Hardware slightly above PS3/360, barely any 3rd party support, marketing / parents not recognizing the difference between the 1st Wii and the WiiU, etc.

The 3DS on the other hand is still doing well despite competition from other mobile devices. They have such a great library of games for the 3DS. Why not take those games and make them playable on the WiiU?

I would totally buy a WiiU if they had some sort of cross buy for 3DS like the Vita.
 
Jaer44 said:
Nintendo has billions upon billions in the bank they're just sitting on, I think, if anything, they'll just make a new system (one that may actually compete) and re-evaluate their stance on third party support.
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Our homes don't need a crapton of proprietary and redundant gaming boxes connected to their TVs.

They need one. Just one... and in fact, many would argue they need NONE as a HTPC eliminates the need for a whole plehtora of devices being a true multi-purpose jack of all trades.

Sony and MS console battle is good enough, and honestly Nintendo should give up on making its own console and just make games for xbox, ps4, and PC.
 
Sovern said:
There's nothing wrong with Nintendo.....they single handily dominate the handheld market (which is huge) as most of the handheld games are throwback games and most are challenging and are Nintendo/handheld exclusives.

The 3DS has the best RPG's out of any of the current consoles right now which says a lot.

Also, the reason why the Wii U is doing poorly at this moment is only because they have not released any major Nintendo classics not exclusives.

When the new Zelda is released on the Wii U, Fire Emblem, Super Smash Bros., Mario RPG, Metroid, and all of the exclusive RPG's it will be getting, than we can talk about console sales because by that point Wii U's will be selling like crazy.

None of the current consoles really appeal to gamers that want a challenge either.....most of the main stream games are too easy and hold your hand and this includes games such as Far Cry 3 and the Assassins Creed....both games were so easy they became boring for me.

I can only name 1 game off the top of my head that was difficult for the PS3 and that was Dark Souls. The 3DS has a ton of challenging games and the Wii U will follow.
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Couldn't agree more, It's an awesome system, if you don't like Nintendo games, then you are not missing anything, but it's hands down the best compliment to a good gaming PC. SM3D is simply amazing, and if you have a family the party games are tons of fun.

Anyone that thinks Nintendo is going away any time soon is a little daft.
 
I blame marketing. Of the people I know who love the Wii, they didn't even know there was a WiiU even after release. THey are not the type of gamers that visit game sites/forums, or actively seek game information on the latest and greatest. They are casual gamers.

The first WiiU commercial on TV I ever saw was last week. I thought, Wow.. they finally have a WiiU commercial.
 
It's a shame because the games on the WiiU are actually pretty awesome. If you own a gaming PC, then the exclusives on the WiiU blow anything on the PS4/One out of the water right now.
 
I dont think the wiiU controller is that great considering games not have pad support where you download an app for that game and can use it while playing that game like ass creed 4, i think gta 5 did it, and i know that new Tom Clancy game is doing it as well. That sorta kills the WiiU pad idea when you can use your own ipad as a second screen. I would buy a wiiU if it was around 200-250.00 right now its too expensive imo but still cheaper then the other systems, I think 200.00 would be a sweet spot and if priced there it would sell a ton just on price alone but that would never happen.
 
cbutters said:
How about you get educated:

see here: http://www.nintendo.com/wiiu/downloads/virtual-console/
Look at the bottom of the page where it says "Already own Wii Virtual Console titles?"
to update your wii virtual console it is $1.00 for NES and $1.50 for SNES titles
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The way you worded it, it sounded like you couldn't transfer over Wii virtual console titles to the Wii U. I thought that was odd since I had just done so. lol I see that you're talking about updating Wii virtual console titles to make use of the Wii U gamepad or whatever. I can't imagine anyone would care about that so much to actually pay extra, but it's an optional cost, not a mandatory one.
 
They need a reason to use the game pad as well as games outside the Nintendo-verse. I'm not sure it's necessarily a hardware power issue. I do think it's a content issue and almost an attitude that "if we build it, they will come". Maybe it will, but if they want to move units, people need a reason to play it. The Wii Sports package was a great way to exercise the functionality of the console and make people want to buy it. Not everybody is a die-hard Nintendo fan, so while the new Mario/Zelda/etc. game may appeal to some, if someone isn't into those titles, they have no reason to try it. It just seems like Nintendo is limiting their appeal to console exclusives.
 
What they should have done is made a more competent powerful console and use the 3DS for remote play like Sony did with the Vita for the PS4. Maybe you can do that already? Either way...
 
bullet-worm said:
If Nintendo wants to save themselves they need to graduate out of Playskool gaming kiddie-land and come out with a serious console.
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I think a lot of us older gamers that grew up on Atari, Sega and Nintendo would love to have one of those. But, the serious game consoles took over - Microsoft and Sony took that market. I'd love to buy a serious, high powered Nintendo console like they released back in the day. Most of the new gamers came in with Gamecube or Wii from Nintendo. To them, Nintendo isn't a serious contender. It's a kiddie console (with a few adult games). They would get the old gamers, no doubt, but they'd have to pull some major PR stuff to get the new gamers to jump back to them.
 
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