What is Sprint doing!?

mope54 said:
How did you use a MacBook in 2002 when they weren't released until 2006?
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Cause iBooks were unofficially named a "MacBook" by people who used it... I'm just bsing that! It's just been so long since the name change. Geez, give the old man a break.
 
He may be referring to the iBook.

Edit: lol, see above.

By the way, googling "mac laptop history" yields a Wiki page for the future. In case, you want to call people out on how accurate statements are.
 
point is it's near useless to draw conclusions about intel/osx macs based on ppc/os 9 experiences regardless of nomenclature
 
So if you are a sprint customer, and have been for a while (> year) and don't plan on switching, and are happy with your phone (EVO) this is pretty much a non issue - next year when I'm eligible for an upgrade, I'll prolly move to iPhone5, but then again, maybe not. Unlimited bandwidth is worth it. with the addition of the iPhone, Sprint has a very good phone lineup that can go toe-to-toe with the larger carriers. I just wish their 4G was more ubiquitous and penetrated structures better.
 
timtheenchantor said:
I'm in a rock and a hard place on this one. I have the Evo. Got it in June '10. They raised their administrative fee's which according to SlickDeals, people have been able to get out of the ETFs or whatever. I am looking to switch to the iPhone 5 (yes, Android -> iOS) and am happy with my service on Sprint.

Do I really want to complain to Sprint, port my number out, then port it back in when the iPhone comes? Not sure if it's really worth that headache. I would rather put my money elsewhere (like more computer parts).
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They won't let you have discount pricing unless you are away from them for at least 3-6 months.
 
CHANG3D said:
All four of my apple mobile/tablet devices crashed (or had an app that crashed) on day one out of the box. So I dunno all this thing about how Apple things don't crash... And don't even get me starting on my MacBook that I got for college (sure, that was 2002, but it sucked ass)...
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Apps aren't the O/S. APPS do shut down on you so you can reopen it. It's designed that way if memory gets low. Either way, the O/S is way more stable than any Android device and that is a fact.

There is a reason why Apple is growing faster than the PC market is of today and I have been into PCs for over 20 years.
 
ROFL... I did say that was 2002 so it gave them an excuse from that crappy load of turd iBooks that they released onto the market...
 
Ryokurin said:
But you neglect to note that the LTE is no faster than the competitions 3G service. Or that there's some areas where they charge you for roaming.
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Show me where you can get 21mbps on 3g and we will talk. When I had my thunderbolt I never had under 10mbps download speed
 
whatever, sprint is still with the best plans and top phones out. They have to do something to make money since they were losing money left and right. And subscribers. As someone stated before their selling point is their kick ass phones now and unlimited plans. Im not going anywhere. I have my niece on my plan and if i want to upgrade every year, then i just upgrade each line alternating years, and she get the hand me downs. Still cost her nothing to have to cool phone.
 
It's just coming to the point where all carriers with contracts are not worth doing business with. The perks are starting to be shadowed by the negatives, while the options that month to month plans offer keep getting better and better..
 
Metro PCS would be great if their service was any good. Problem is their service sucks worse than Verizon, ATT, or Sprint. Here in the Tampa Bay area they drop calls several times a day. They offer a great no contract $40 a month unlimited call, text, and data plan but what good is it if they constantly drop calls all day? There is a reason why Metro PCS is cheap. Their service is cheap in quality. I've switched to Sprint and have had only one dropped call in the 3 months I have had them.
 
Mr. Wolf said:
Man, that's bad news for the future of this industry. My biggest worry is that the big 4 start mirroring each others prices/plans to the extent there's virtually no difference between them. Competition is great for the video card industry but the same rules don't seem to apply to cell phone companies.
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it would be much worse if there were only three (if the att merger went through)
 
nobody_here said:
it would be much worse if there were only three (if the att merger went through)
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If it doesn't go through, I give Tmobile 2 years tops before they drop out.


Also, someone mentioned a student discount with sprint? Any chance I can get some info on this? :D
 
Zurginator said:
If it doesn't go through, I give Tmobile 2 years tops before they drop out.


Also, someone mentioned a student discount with sprint? Any chance I can get some info on this? :D
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Look for the thread on the +++++++++++ boards, just need a .edu address.

Edit: What the heck, why would a student discount site be bleeped? I'll pm you.
 
Bman123 said:
Show me where you can get 21mbps on 3g and we will talk. When I had my thunderbolt I never had under 10mbps download speed
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MetroPCS LTE is on 1700mhz. Verizon is currently using 700mhz and there isn't a dual or tri-band LTE phone on the market at the moment. If you are using a Thunderbolt on Metro it's voice only or at least 2G only.

What I was talking about was this, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386832,00.asp

MetroPCS, like Verizon Wireless, offers LTE. But the small carrier, available in 11 of our 21 cities, is doing something very different with its 4G; rather than offering spectacular speeds, it's going for merely decent speeds at very low rates. The carrier's average speed is like a very good 3G network, but unlimited talk, text and Internet access costs just $60 a month—or about half of what Verizon charges.
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Metro is where I live, and I know several people with the phone. Most of the time they get between 4 and 6Mbps which is roughly what AT&T is doing on HSPA+ it's not a bad speed but it's not as fast as Verizon, and Sprint. Metro's plan is to move people over to VoLTE as soon as possible to gain some breathing room in their spectrum. I fully expect them to go to it before Verizon does. They really do offer a decent service, but they shouldn't be called "Verizon at half the price" it just isn't true.
 
I would say blame the people who are using their phone as their home internet connection.
 
Ryokurin said:
I would say blame the people who are using their phone as their home internet connection.
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Who cares about hotspot caps? Sprint's probably the most candid carrier about admitting that a large chunk of people don't pay for that service since they root and do it for free... Besides, I think 5GB is still higher than anyone else's cap, tho I don't remember everyone's hotspot cap right now.

I think they know what they're doing, they still haven't touched regular mobile caps...
 
Im a grandfathered vzw data customer and i wouldnt use their new pricing plans with a 2Gb data cap either...on a 4G phone ? Are you kidding? I live in the middle of a 4G area......id go over every month
 
Ryokurin said:
MetroPCS LTE is on 1700mhz. Verizon is currently using 700mhz and there isn't a dual or tri-band LTE phone on the market at the moment. If you are using a Thunderbolt on Metro it's voice only or at least 2G only.

What I was talking about was this, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386832,00.asp



Metro is where I live, and I know several people with the phone. Most of the time they get between 4 and 6Mbps which is roughly what AT&T is doing on HSPA+ it's not a bad speed but it's not as fast as Verizon, and Sprint. Metro's plan is to move people over to VoLTE as soon as possible to gain some breathing room in their spectrum. I fully expect them to go to it before Verizon does. They really do offer a decent service, but they shouldn't be called "Verizon at half the price" it just isn't true.
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I have tried to tell the cut rate fans that those services will always get neutered cut rate second seat service.....you get what you pay for......if it was truly that easy nobody would sign a contract on verizon....but they are convinced they get the same service a top tier customer gets for half price....lol
 
nobody_here said:
I have tried to tell the cut rate fans that those services will always get neutered cut rate second seat service.....you get what you pay for......if it was truly that easy nobody would sign a contract on verizon....but they are convinced they get the same service a top tier customer gets for half price....lol
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True, it isn't the same service as vzw. But to me virgin mobile was the best choice since I don't talk that much and it's nice to be able to research a product on the spot at the store. I don't need the super fast 12-20mb/s service on my cell phone... shoot I have a 25/25 fios connection at home. So I really don't NEED that kinda speed on the go. I normally get 1500kb/s down 512kb/s up on my LG Optimus V which is more then enough to get me where I gotta go.

That being said there are down sides... you're restricted to sprint towers only on virgin. Unlike sprint phones that allow you to roam to verizon's towers when sprint towers aren't available, or so I hear?
That's fine though, I live in a area with great sprint service. Voice quality is better on virgin moble's service verses verizon.

All this for $25/mo vs vzw's ~$90/mo for a similar plan. Yes you get what you pay for, but I found that price to be a bit much since I don't have as much disposable income as I did a couple years ago.

I would go back to VZW only if they lowered their rates to something more reasonable... Like say $50-60/month after all the extra stupid fees they tack on the service. That would include messaging and 7GB data as well. Go over that data limit and you can choose to be throttled or pay $10 for an extra 3-5GB of data.
That would be my basis of a plan I would buy into...

Sadly that kind of plan doesn't exist, and it won't until enough people complain to the wireless carriers to lower the prices a little bit.
 
Despite all these changes coming to Sprint, politically, I will still support sprint as sprint is our best hope against the twin bells.
 
Either Sprint upgrades their towers to LTE+ speeds within the next 2 years or im out. They cap my data but yet offer speeds of molasses. I rather hit the cap faster on Verizon than slower on Sprint.
 
That's a cap only on tethering use, and then only if you use Sprint's app to do so... Data use on the phone itself (and if you're tethering thru USB or root apps) is still unlimited.
 
That's the first step, it wont be long before they start targetting USB tethering and root users. Then finally get rid of unlimited data period. AT&T began doing this awhile back.
 
NickJames said:
That's the first step, it wont be long before they start targetting USB tethering and root users. Then finally get rid of unlimited data period. AT&T began doing this awhile back.
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AT&T was bluffing, and badly at that. There is absolutely no proof that they were ever packet sniffing or doing anything else to detect other forms of tethering, by most accounts all they did was send threatening messages to their highest data users, which eventually they did even to users on grandfathered unlimited plans. They also did all that after having capped data already, but before un capping their HSPAU+ speeds (which were capped at the phone level).

Sprint knows what side their bread is buttered on imo... They're still advertising truly unlimited phone data plans on TV while comparing themselves directly to the other carriers. AT&T and Verizon also had Google remove tethering apps from the market for their customers but Sprint & T-Mobile never bothered, 'course you can easily sideload them anyway... To use the USB tethering apps you don't even need root access, as you do for Wifi.

Heck the carrier's own Wifi tether apps are sometimes unlocked to be used for free by root users (dunno about the rest but most custom EVO 4G/3D ROMs have it unlocked), not that it's functionally different from the usual apps, just easier to get working sometimes.
 
Impulse said:
Sprint knows what side their bread is buttered on imo... They're still advertising truly unlimited phone data plans on TV while comparing themselves directly to the other carriers. AT&T and Verizon also had Google remove tethering apps from the market for their customers but Sprint & T-Mobile never bothered, 'course you can easily sideload them anyway... To use the USB tethering apps you don't even need root access, as you do for Wifi.

Heck the carrier's own Wifi tether apps are sometimes unlocked to be used for free by root users (dunno about the rest but most custom EVO 4G/3D ROMs have it unlocked), not that it's functionally different from the usual apps, just easier to get working sometimes.
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+1... not to mention the people using PDAnet probably won't be affected at all.
 
NickJames said:
That's the first step, it wont be long before they start targetting USB tethering and root users. Then finally get rid of unlimited data period. AT&T began doing this awhile back.
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OK, so you're suggesting we all dump the only carrier that still offers unlimited data... on the assumption that they someday WILL cap data?? :rolleyes:

My Sprint account hasnt had any price increases, and still offers early upgrades @ 1 year or free upgrades @ 2 years.

Am I 100% happy with Sprint? I was... until the past few months when my new EVO Shift died, and every replacement phone (up to 3 exchanges so far) was total crap, and customer service started to show their real attitude. But bottom line is that equivalent service and phones with Verizon or AT&T will cost me more per month, and cap my data.
 
They are getting ready for the iphone 4. This will allow them to make TONS of $ in a short time frame..
 
jjandrob said:
They are getting ready for the iphone 4. This will allow them to make TONS of $ in a short time frame..
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Wrong, they are to loose more money until 1 year and 2 months later. They will have to pay for the cost of subsidizing the iPhone.
 
If they build out LTE on the iDen bands AND Clear's spectrum, as that article insinuates, the reality of owning more spectrum than other carriers might finally start to bear fruit... It's gonna take a while tho, and lots of money, and all new phones with discrete radio chips (obviously) during a time where VZW & AT&T will probably be looking for their LTE radios to be integrated into the main SoCs from Qualcomm, TI, etc. Basically, it's gonna be make or break time for Sprint over the next couple years, which isn't really a surprise.
 
Q4 earnings for Sprint could be far greater than analysts anticipate. Epic 4G Touch is a huge hit and Sprint was and still is the first to offer Galaxy II S. Feature wise it pwns iPhone 4 and it's still not known whether 5 will hold a candle to it.
 
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