All nonsense. Everybody who is informed knows that the Vega delay is due to Hynix and Samsung having yield problems with the high speed hbm2 that is so necessary for Vega. So stop your inane finger wagging and own up to the facts. AMD does NOT manufacture the memory needed for the cards HYnix does and they have screwed up their hbm2 process.
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All nonsense. Everybody who is informed knows that the Vega delay is due to Hynix and Samsung having yield problems with the high speed hbm2 that is so necessary for Vega. So stop your inane finger wagging and own up to the facts. AMD does NOT manufacture the memory needed for the cards HYnix does and they have screwed up their hbm2 process.
lol bro, there is already performance review for it. Common now bug in the bios? They clearly did thread optimizations for the game.
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I do not think 1800X buyers with MSI X370 board are qualified to talk about nonsense.
Source, please
It's AMD's screw-up to bet on the wrong horse.
I do not think 1800X buyers with MSI X370 board are qualified to talk about nonsense.
Source, please
It's AMD's screw-up to bet on the wrong horse.
Just google hynix hbm2 shortage. Raja said in reddit HBM2 manufacturers are ramping up production right now that just shows they are trying to get memory from wherever they can at this point. lol
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Thanks for that I never realised it was updated with additional info:
Interesting snippet showing that this is not solely an Nvidia fault with drivers as some assumed and why some games seem to behave unusually on their GPUs combined with Ryzen:
May also explain why some of those DX12 that are just modified DX11 engines and in many cases focused more towards AMD hardware (talking more about Total War:Warhammer/Hitman/Deus Ex/etc) have notable problems with Nvidia on Ryzen, Nvidia would be pretty limited in the sort of improvements they could make in that sitiuation at a driver level.
With the change will be interesting to see if it also resolves the bad performance of 1080 ti at times with RoTR on Ryzen, fingers crossed one of the other sites when testing RoTR will be using their 1080 ti.
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Really? Dude haven't you figured out yet I don't make things up lol? I was thinking about the bios update that came out prior to that.
Yeah guys its partially due to HBM 2 never denied that, but I also think AMD has been giving a lot of excuses as of late, most complex chip ever, drivers are hard to make, crap that we have all heard before when chips have been delayed.
They still haven't shown anything over gtx 1080 performance outside of compute things, Well that pretty much summed up every single launch of products right? Cherry pick the best and let people find out what it really is at launch.
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Still man, doesn't explain the drop in marketshare does it? Doesn't matter who buys the cards, if they are bought that means they will show up in the marketshare figures.
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Paul from redgaming tech , entertaining
And if you look around there are no others reporting the same thing he encountered. Doesn't that tell you enough ?
Paul from redgaming tech , entertaining
And if you look around there are no others reporting the same thing he encountered. Doesn't that tell you enough ?
Err you want more links?
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-fixes-more-ryzen-issues-with-new-microcode.html
http://infinityonloop.com/ryzen-cpu-bios-update-agesa-1-0-0-4-performance-improvements/
https://thetechaltar.com/amd-ryzen-agesa-1-0-0-4-testing/
I can get ya more if you guys like?
Shit Paul isn't like Adorned.... Sometimes he is doesn't know what he is talking about I agree, but still, he doesn't make things up like Adorned based on wild speculations.
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Well I checked the link from infinityloop and it was entertaining they listed the AGESA 1.0.0.4 code for Crosshair VI hero as bios 1002 which ofcourse is not correct .
That would be something but not the melodramatic title Paul used in his video.
wait there is a list:
I tested it myself on my motherboard and I got a performance decrease for the only benchmark I been running since I got my AM4 Crosshair VI hero.
Which is 1201 at this moment and the previous benchmarks I did were on 1002. I have yet to install 9943 and check again.
.That would be something but not the melodramatic title Paul used in his video.
wait there is a list:
I tested it myself on my motherboard and I got a performance decrease for the only benchmark I been running since I got my AM4 Crosshair VI hero.
Which is 1201 at this moment and the previous benchmarks I did were on 1002. I have yet to install 9943 and check again.
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The BIG question is, when will the RX Vega Nano be available...?!?
(...or whatever they plan on calling the SFF / ITX-friendly Vega GPU...)
(...or whatever they plan on calling the SFF / ITX-friendly Vega GPU...)
A share drop gives us little or no insight into the actual number of units shipped. It could be (could be, could be, could be) for example they have less share vs a larger set of sales for the market overall.
All I know is, they could be flogging them in boatloads but if there aren't any to buy then it's their and their partners loss.
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Miners must be buying them wholesale. If a GPU card can make you 17 bucks a day in Etherium, it can pay for itself in two weeks.
They actually are heading out the backdoor at the point of retail, deals are already made to take delivery of what's coming in. In the US, there's more competition so a greater chance of regular Joe getting a card. In a small market like Canada with few major online retailers, there is little chance of scooping one. Though I did call NewEgg for other business last week and got them to send me a couple reference 480 8 gigs that never made it into online stock from the US warehouse.
It doesn't matter if its back door or what not, the Mercury numbers are from AMD and nV and JPR is from AIB partners, so those numbers if Miners are buying all the cards, should reflect on total GPU"s sold. Just means one thing, AMD just isn't making as many cards as they have to, to supply demand.
The end point doesn't matter who buys the cards, once its out of the AIB's hands it counts in both JPR and Mercury figures.
Now if market share is going down for AMD when there is no supply because of miners, what does that mean? Well only one reason, the pipeline is dried up, not enough manufacturing to sustain current levels of market share.
These numbers wont show up until next quarter. its a fact this craze didn't take effect until like last month or so. I bought an rx580 and there were shit load of them available on launch and few weeks after since that is when I bought my card. Starting last month I started seeing the threads about them being out of stock and now they are almost being wiped clean. There were bunch of 580s available when they launched almost constantly filled. Only reason this is happening is because people are buying them in large quantities. Newegg is probably more than happy to sell bulk quantities at full asking price. I never saw the rx480s being out of stock like this. This is fairly recent.
? JPR numbers came out last week well early this week for Q1 2017 and AMD already went down 2%.
So that was with stock, now without stock, well there ya have it, it can't really change right?
And I bought my 580's at full price 260 a pop. Newegg isn't giving anything special to bulk buyers vs retailers if bulk buyers are getting the same amount up front.
580 wasn't launched in q1, it was like late april so we are looking at less then month and half since release. Also 480s were always in stock within few weeks of launch. This mining thing happened like in the last month. So I highly doubt those cards sold are in that report.
As far as AMD losing market share, I understand and its totally believable. Having nothing on the high end.
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The last mining craze wasn't even noticeable on dgpu market share... maybe if this one is more sustained it'll matter. They couldn't ramp production fast enough last time.
6 months wasn't enough time to ramp up production? LOL come on man can't tell me that. Dude if nV with more than double the marketshare can supply its chain, AMD can't with less than half?
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Think about the 290x time frame. Everything AMD was sold out for months but yet dGPUs sold they barely moved on the market share charts. I sold 7970s I bought for $220 half a year later for $500.
I am assuming it takes a while to ramp up all the components... unless they intentionally kept production down.
Overstock is cash and is risk. Either they took the less risky route (demand was expected to be very short) or they couldn't ramp. Lets see what happens this time.
AMD has better understanding than us on this, keeping the channel filled, having certain amount of inventory, etc, that is the job of their COO. Shouldn't take longer than 1 month to ramp up production, once they know the demand is there or not they should be able to adjust quickly. That is exactly the reason why they can maintain a certain amount of inventory. We have seen this from Intel and nV when ever inventory dips or climbs the next month its corrected. AMD too.
We aren't talking about companies that just started business or making a product in a new market, they should be agile enough shift quickly.
Thing is AMD owns no Fabs. Ones that have other customers buying time at their plants to make chips. It might cost AMD to much to be worth it to buy more production space to get things out. Intel has their own fabs and Nvidia has the money to buy all production time they want unlike AMD.
https://compubench.com/device.jsp?b...=dGPU&hwname=AMD+Radeon+Vega+Frontier+Edition
another open cl bench, this one doesn't coincide with the other earlier ES samples, its much lower, so different drivers for the FE or faked.
another open cl bench, this one doesn't coincide with the other earlier ES samples, its much lower, so different drivers for the FE or faked.
I am surprised that people are experiencing Hynix to be ramping up HBM2 production now, when they had indicated months ago that mass production is targeted for Q3. Samsung is mass producing HBM2 now. With AMD leading the community to believe that they are launching in Q2, the logical conclusion was that they would be using Samsung HBM2.
Raja did mention Samsung in the AMA. He had no reason mention Samsung if they weren't planning on using their HBM2. I am pretty confident they went to Samsung after Hynix's constant fuck up sicne q3 2016. That's when HBM2 by them was suppose to be ready.
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Well shortage here in Alberta is from miners, any store that carries the 570 /580 are all sold out and the exact reason they gave was "people were buying 4/5 at a time for Eth mining". So now i am stuck with a RX 550 just to use my main box so i can pass through a working vid card while i wait for 570's to come back in stock.
And this is where the hype train derails itself and kills a small town of innocent people just looking to play video games.
It is a rumor thread...
wasn't this the same graph that was shown like few months ago
Fake slide with skewed rx and blurriness lol.
Yeah, the blur amounts around the fonts the fonts and icons, are different, its photo-chopped. pretty much the same as before.
Also NDA hasn't lifted yet, yet the NDA on this slide stated May 8th.....
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Fake slide with skewed rx and blurriness lol.
Yeah, the blur amounts around the fonts the fonts and icons, are different, its photo-chopped. pretty much the same as before.
Also NDA hasn't lifted yet, yet the NDA on this slide stated May 8th.....
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1628013/...a-promotional-trailer-leaks/100#post_26019657
It's getting mighty cOLD in here
It is indeed, but the hyper hyping hype factor you included is the large bold lettering... the rumor was just the rumor part.
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Let's be clear. It is an article about something that was supposedly under NDA until May 8 yet we have never seen a single article with full presentation.
That means that it is most likely a bad fake and you should feel bad. Especially since it claims that TXP is twice faster than 1080 in Doom...
Yea but it's been debunked and sent down he drain! That thing looks as fake as it get. Plus someone decided to make fools out of people once again.
copy pasting problemsIt is indeed, but the hyper hyping hype factor you included is the large bold lettering... the rumor was just the rumor part.