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Uncool To Be a Mac User in These Tough Times?
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"Look at him Smithers, with the crowd in the palm of his hand!"
Well, technically you can -- sort of.
kirbyrj
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^^^ Not a 17" Macbook which was the whole point of the commercial (although why someone would want a 17" notebook to begin with is beyond me).
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I have not seen this commercial on TV yet. Has it been broadcast or is it just an internet thing? I have seen the one with the little girl and the pictures (a fantastic backhand slap to Apple IMO).
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The way Mac users are acting just shows how much of a tool they are.
Macs are no better then windows in ANY way. It's a choice. I use macs at work, but I use windows at home. Both are great, and they both crash occasionally. I still prefer Windows because I don't need to pay the "apple" tax.
Macs are no better then windows in ANY way. It's a choice. I use macs at work, but I use windows at home. Both are great, and they both crash occasionally. I still prefer Windows because I don't need to pay the "apple" tax.
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I used a Mac and I'm none of the above. That line of argumentation was easy to dismiss.
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I don't get why so many people have a hard time wrapping their heads around a 17" laptop.
The chick probably wants a minimalist computer at her place (or none at all if she puts it out of sight), plus the option of taking it somewhere, on vacation, to a library, whatever. I bet it's at home 95% of the time... just wants a big screen with plenty of power but doesn't need a dedicated desk for it, and the fact that it's "not that mobile" is moot if it mobility isn't that important (as in, not daily).
The chick probably wants a minimalist computer at her place (or none at all if she puts it out of sight), plus the option of taking it somewhere, on vacation, to a library, whatever. I bet it's at home 95% of the time... just wants a big screen with plenty of power but doesn't need a dedicated desk for it, and the fact that it's "not that mobile" is moot if it mobility isn't that important (as in, not daily).
There are stereotypes for a reason. Kinda how rednecks all drive camaros/pickups. There are exceptions but yeah, mostly. Pretentious is another one the mac users have covered.
I have a Gateway FX series for gaming. Its a hell of a lot easier to transport to lan parties than a full on desktop is.
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If you're going to have a 17" laptop, you're going to need a dedicated desk for it. If you're going to have a dedicated desk, you might as well get a smaller laptop and then a cheap 19" LCD screen, mouse and keyboard and set yourself up a little workspace. Then you get the best of both worlds. Portability and a minimalist computer. 15" notebooks are significantly cheaper than 17" thus you could probably get the monitor for the same price as the extra size in laptop.
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Pretentious, yes, Mac users have that covered. The whole hippy/gay thing. Not so much anymore. I would say after the Ipod and the move to Intel based processors, they are a little more mainstream. Maybe you could say that if they don't use bootcamp they are still hippy/gay?
That would be about the only reason to have a 17" laptop. I didn't see the girl in the OP having a strong desire to go gaming for under $1000 though. Personally, if I were doing a lot of LAN parties, I'd probably get a shuttle and a small 19" LCD. You're already carrying around a decent amound of weight with the laptop, might as well get the best bang for the buck.
WTF, I am not a redneck and i want a camaro and a pickup, im srsly offended by this comment.
What? Where is this commercial? I'll have to google it. Know what it's called?
Ummm .... $999.00 is pretty much $1000. I think we get what he meant. You're pretty witty, though "Mr. Technical"
Everybody Burton560 I know looks like an idiot for using offensive, overgeneralized, uneducated stereotypes, or all three.
Same here. Grew up on a farm. Married a good woman. Got one kid and currently tryin' for another the good ol' fashioned way, if yer know wut I mean!
Got short hair, wear jeans and t-shirts mostly, have a couple of guns back at home, too. Also change the oil on my own car and put together all my own non-laptop computers by hand. I don't think anyone's ever called me a hippy in my life ... in some of my classes half my classmates have macbooks. Only one real hippy in every single class I'm in right now. And he uses a Dell.
They're not quite as beasty as they used to be. I remember previous 10 pound models. This HP clocks in at eight. 17" laptops generally have noticeably higher resolution than 15" models, and sport the 10 key, and can at least be packed around at all, as the FX owner has stated. 17" laptop cases are now more commonplace, even in stores. It's not that bad anymore. They've gotten thinner, lighter, and cheaper to make.
And BTW, the only laptop I could find that had the exact same specs as this 17" HP was only $70 cheaper. Go find yourself a decent $19 inch monitor + keyboard and mouse for $70 - but oh, wait, the 19" monitor will have the same resolution as this HP: 1440x900.
I don't consider a $700 17" (or 15" for that matter) laptop "minimalist" - the $400 14" Acer or the $250 netbook are what I would call "minimalist". The $600-700 14-17 inch clearly is today's mainstream, with 15" variants still being the most common. Some of the wider 15's are now supporting the 10-key, which I like, but they are wider and often don't quite fit in standard 15.4" cases.
Man this is just killing me. Am I the only:
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Sports fan? (college or pro)
Seems you only get one or the other. Any college bball or even general, knowledgeable sports fans would have seen this commercial several times by now on CBS.
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Sports fan? (college or pro)
Seems you only get one or the other. Any college bball or even general, knowledgeable sports fans would have seen this commercial several times by now on CBS.
I own a Windows desktop, and a Windows 17" Laptop, and a 15" laptop.
My 17" is gaming suitable, its not gonna blow the doors off my desktop, but for gaming on the go, it just plain works. I paid $849 for it a year ago, and its still able to keep up with the stuff I play on and off.
I could buy the same laptop today for $650-700 I'd guess.
Apple tax is right. As far as her being an actress, woah, shocking. Good for her, keep boosting her image on the intertubes and eventually she'll be in her own youtube TV show :|
Thats like saying "Hey guys, did you know that there's actors on the television".
The statements made by Microsoft are still to the point. You cannot buy a 17" Mac for under $1,000. Till Apple can refute that statement, they lose. You can however buy a $300 netbook and run the Mac OS on it, and get $1800 Mac "quality" for $300. (Read Dell Mini 9 + 2GB = Win)
But thats all beside the point, Microsoft doesn't make hardware PC's (unless you consider the Xbox a PC, and thats like considering the Apple a gaming console) so to compare apples to apples (no pun intended).
Compare the OS'es, and not the base hardware. Cause I could get a system for less w/o Windows. So, does Linux ultimately win then? We could go round and round about all this.
Mac OSX to me, is a flaming pile of fairies, running overtop FreeBSD, thats the only reason its so stable.
Well, that, and the fact you still don't have 30% of the software to run on a Mac. Its not hard to keep it from crashing when all you can do is go to their Notepad and watch its cool icon bounce up and down :|
My 17" is gaming suitable, its not gonna blow the doors off my desktop, but for gaming on the go, it just plain works. I paid $849 for it a year ago, and its still able to keep up with the stuff I play on and off.
I could buy the same laptop today for $650-700 I'd guess.
Apple tax is right. As far as her being an actress, woah, shocking. Good for her, keep boosting her image on the intertubes and eventually she'll be in her own youtube TV show :|
Thats like saying "Hey guys, did you know that there's actors on the television".
The statements made by Microsoft are still to the point. You cannot buy a 17" Mac for under $1,000. Till Apple can refute that statement, they lose. You can however buy a $300 netbook and run the Mac OS on it, and get $1800 Mac "quality" for $300. (Read Dell Mini 9 + 2GB = Win)
But thats all beside the point, Microsoft doesn't make hardware PC's (unless you consider the Xbox a PC, and thats like considering the Apple a gaming console) so to compare apples to apples (no pun intended).
Compare the OS'es, and not the base hardware. Cause I could get a system for less w/o Windows. So, does Linux ultimately win then? We could go round and round about all this.
Mac OSX to me, is a flaming pile of fairies, running overtop FreeBSD, thats the only reason its so stable.
Well, that, and the fact you still don't have 30% of the software to run on a Mac. Its not hard to keep it from crashing when all you can do is go to their Notepad and watch its cool icon bounce up and down :|
Here is one with a 4 1/2 year old connecting a camera, making a picutre of her fish look better, then emailing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhre2C4THT4
Here is one with a 7 year old taking a lot of pictures of her fort then using windows to combine all the pictures into 1 large picture.
I could see both being very believable. My nephew will be 4 in a few months. Already he can turn the computer on, use the mouse to start his games (some located on the desktop and some from going to start, games then selecting his game from there) and play his games on the computer by himself. I have been told he also knows how to print stuff out, although I am not sure what he normally would print, but he at least knows the button to click on to print something out.
crap I forgot to paste the second link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhre2C4THT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhre2C4THT4
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I'm not often impressed by commercials, but those two with the 4.5 year old and the 7 year old are fantastic for the following reasons:
1). It shows real live shots of the OS in action with kids using the computer
2). It demonstrates kids describing what they are doing instead of some random Mac zealot telling you it's easier to run things on a Mac.
3). It takes the idea of the competitor and then uses it against them in a way that there really is no response. How is Apple going to argue against Vista being hard to use when a 4.5 year old kid can take pictures and e-mail them without too much effort?
4). It does it without giving an unfair characterization of the competitor like the dope representing Windows Vista in the Mac commercial.
The $1000 17" laptop is just the icing on the cake for Microsoft.
1). It shows real live shots of the OS in action with kids using the computer
2). It demonstrates kids describing what they are doing instead of some random Mac zealot telling you it's easier to run things on a Mac.
3). It takes the idea of the competitor and then uses it against them in a way that there really is no response. How is Apple going to argue against Vista being hard to use when a 4.5 year old kid can take pictures and e-mail them without too much effort?
4). It does it without giving an unfair characterization of the competitor like the dope representing Windows Vista in the Mac commercial.
The $1000 17" laptop is just the icing on the cake for Microsoft.
Actually, the MacPro had the Nehalem Xeon's before Dell/IBM/etc...
Each OS/hardware platform has it's own merits.
I use OSX at home and on the road with my 13" MacBook. The hardware is great. I don't know of any other laptop where I get a full metal chasis and an LED backlit screen etc. etc. for the same price (only laptop I've had that was tougher was a toughbook, but they are too heavy and expensive).
At work I use a Dell precision workstation with windows XP pro SP3 because it suits my purposes.
90% of my servers/VM's run RHEL, because that is what is best, running on Sun and Dell hardware for the most part.
You can go in circles arguing, but the fact remains that each system has a place in the market.
Yes the wooping 5.5% of users use mac in the computer world, it sure has a place. I like their laptops and will only buy one if i can run windows.
Apple woke the sleeping giant. Apple really stuck it to MS with Vista and the negative press they managed to create for it. However, it looks like MS is ready to respond and these ads are genius. They take everything applefags have bragged about since OSX came out and beat them at their own game.
These ads say to all those people who think OSX is easier to use that 4 year olds have no problem using windows PCs. It's beautiful. MS managed to call most OSX users dumber than 4 year olds in an entertaining and very subtle way.
These ads say to all those people who think OSX is easier to use that 4 year olds have no problem using windows PCs. It's beautiful. MS managed to call most OSX users dumber than 4 year olds in an entertaining and very subtle way.
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Man I love all those comments on the first 2 pages of that video of the 4 year old:
I guess Mac Tools now have a reason to use their Macs, and that reason is to troll the web.
I guess Mac Tools now have a reason to use their Macs, and that reason is to troll the web.
People are trendy douche bags on both sides of the fence in the PC/Mac world. Much like gaming, fashion, lifestyle, music, etc. They've been brain zapped by media heavy living that they feel one choice makes you X instead of Y.
Dr. Seuss was right on track with that bread and butter concept.
It's cool to own a mac and/or it's cool to bash mac users?
Seriously are you kidding me?
People that own either are probably not 12 years old and shouldn't behave in such a fashion about anything... period.
Dr. Seuss was right on track with that bread and butter concept.
It's cool to own a mac and/or it's cool to bash mac users?
Seriously are you kidding me?
People that own either are probably not 12 years old and shouldn't behave in such a fashion about anything... period.
I must admit I laughed at this comment when I read it:
"Spending the premium for a Mac is totally worth it. As well as getting fantastic software that works right out if the box and doesn't even require antivirus software,"
....afaik Windows works out of the box too....also, rofl at people thinking Macs are immune to any viruses/trojans/hacking etc.
That said, I actually do like MacBooks quite a bit. They are very sleek looking, they have some very nice "premium" features such as backlit keyboards and whatnot, and OSX is actually a very well put together OS imo. The thing I can't stand about Macs is all the false information Apple spreads around, and the how ignorant people eat it up. My roommate is a prime example of this. He bought a new MacBook Pro last year, and has thoroughly convinced himself that he was ok with paying a premium because of how superior his system was to a Windows laptop. He also refuses to install any anti-virus software because he believes stuff the people at the Apple store told him about Macs being basically virus immune.
"Spending the premium for a Mac is totally worth it. As well as getting fantastic software that works right out if the box and doesn't even require antivirus software,"
....afaik Windows works out of the box too....also, rofl at people thinking Macs are immune to any viruses/trojans/hacking etc.
That said, I actually do like MacBooks quite a bit. They are very sleek looking, they have some very nice "premium" features such as backlit keyboards and whatnot, and OSX is actually a very well put together OS imo. The thing I can't stand about Macs is all the false information Apple spreads around, and the how ignorant people eat it up. My roommate is a prime example of this. He bought a new MacBook Pro last year, and has thoroughly convinced himself that he was ok with paying a premium because of how superior his system was to a Windows laptop. He also refuses to install any anti-virus software because he believes stuff the people at the Apple store told him about Macs being basically virus immune.
Norton + MAC = Fail
Maybe the new version's better, but I've seen it bring performance of many a Mac to a standstill. Everyone that went against my advice and bought it anyways ended up regretting it. Apple tries to do a fair job providing security via system updates - still free of charge (until they come out with Snowleopard and want you to buy that...)
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Norton 360 is great. It's amazing what years of people hating your once dominant product will do to a company.
In the majority of the cases (excerpting video editing) anyone purchasing a mac for simple every day chores must be partially brain dead / mentally challenged.
Just don't download every fucking link / special porno video update out there, sheesh.
Just don't download every fucking link / special porno video update out there, sheesh.
So not only does Mac get viruses, have anti virus software available, it just happens to bring your mac to a standstill when you use it?!
Wow!
My wife had a Macbook Pro.
She thankfully wised up, returned it, and bought a more powerful custom made laptop for one third of the price.
It was a nightmare using the mac.
First the webcam went, then the power cord developed a short by the magnet, then Apple disabled our bootcamp partition because it became a Leopard only feature, so we then had to put Leopard on there, and then the screen was having problems, and the hard drive started to die.
Apple deleted any help thread we made on their forums.
But not before Mac snobs made fun of us for having problems on a mac.
Apple is a sad sad company IMHO
Wow!
My wife had a Macbook Pro.
She thankfully wised up, returned it, and bought a more powerful custom made laptop for one third of the price.
It was a nightmare using the mac.
First the webcam went, then the power cord developed a short by the magnet, then Apple disabled our bootcamp partition because it became a Leopard only feature, so we then had to put Leopard on there, and then the screen was having problems, and the hard drive started to die.
Apple deleted any help thread we made on their forums.
But not before Mac snobs made fun of us for having problems on a mac.
Apple is a sad sad company IMHO
Yep, I agree. I'll never understand the MS/Apple cheerleeding.
Also, Lauren has a website (probably already been posted) for anyone that uhh... wants to see how the laptop is working out *cough* not really *cough*
http://laurendelong.com/