Toyota Employees Taped Watching Porn In Customers Truck

My question is this: Why is he keeping money or medicine or anything else valuable in his car? Cars are necessarily insecure and can be broken into or stolen at any time. Why keep valuables in them, and why would you trust the car dealer? Any why would you care if they watch porn, as long as they fix your car properly? As others have said, as long as they don't get all Doogie Howser in Harold and Kumar Go To Whitecastle on the seats, it is okay.

I believe the article said the medicine was on his keychain, and the quarters because perhaps he goes on Toll roads? Irrelevant though. They're being paid to fix his car, not use it for porn and to steal from it. I don't expect the plumber to go take a bath while he's fixing my sink and then steal my TP and soap; nor would I find it OK if the pool boy was grilling up on my BBQ in between chemical checks.

The porn is very unprofessional, but the stealing makes them downright criminals.
 
Imagine getting the car back from now on: "Ummm, there wasn't a stain on the seat there when I... EWWWW!!" :D

Someone would be getting stabbed if they did that to my car. That guy did the peaceful approach though, so I guess prop's to him..
 
I believe the article said the medicine was on his keychain, and the quarters because perhaps he goes on Toll roads? Irrelevant though. They're being paid to fix his car, not use it for porn and to steal from it. I don't expect the plumber to go take a bath while he's fixing my sink and then steal my TP and soap; nor would I find it OK if the pool boy was grilling up on my BBQ in between chemical checks.

The porn is very unprofessional, but the stealing makes them downright criminals.

It's a matter of degree, I guess. I agree that it is unethical and illegal, but is it really any worse than stealing office supplies or driving above the speed limit, activities which most people engage in? Or is it worse than me sitting here wasting company time posting when I should be working?
 
It's a matter of degree, I guess. I agree that it is unethical and illegal, but is it really any worse than stealing office supplies or driving above the speed limit, activities which most people engage in? Or is it worse than me sitting here wasting company time posting when I should be working?

Stealing medicine and money from customers in a service field? Yes, that is much worse in my opinion. The fact the manager let that go on is just mind-blowing, but I guess that's why he is fired now too :p
 
Maybe so but it's classified as a foreign car. It may be made in America but all the profits go home to Japan. If you really want to be proud and help your fellow Americans then buy a American made vehicle.

On topic the fellow should have held out for something differant. Said thing is I bet he will still be missing quarters after the next oil change. Nobody like thieves, and the video linkage would have been nice.

Unless you're a shareholder in toyota, like millions of americans, in which case the profits go home to the owners of the company: the shareholders. I love the logic though that a ford made in mexico is an american car, but my honda made a few hours from my home in ohio by american workers is a foreign car.
 
It's a matter of degree, I guess. I agree that it is unethical and illegal, but is it really any worse than stealing office supplies or driving above the speed limit, activities which most people engage in? Or is it worse than me sitting here wasting company time posting when I should be working?


Stealing office supplies on a regular basis can get you fired too, like these bozos. and speeding is not in the same category as theft, IMO.
 
Maybe so but it's classified as a foreign car. It may be made in America but all the profits go home to Japan. If you really want to be proud and help your fellow Americans then buy a American made vehicle.

On topic the fellow should have held out for something differant. Said thing is I bet he will still be missing quarters after the next oil change. Nobody like thieves, and the video linkage would have been nice.

American cars suck ass though. I took my 10 year old, 120,000 mile Nissan Maxima in to get an oil change, and the guy kept remarking at how "immaculate" its condition was, and that I must take really good care of it (I do, but I'm not obsessive about it, and I don't even have a garage). Meanwhile he was servicing some piece of shit 5 year old Dodge next to mine that needed major repairs.

My girlfriend has another Maxima with even more miles, and we're waiting for it to hit 200k, with the original manual transmission. I get sick of this "buy American" crap. American cars are generally inferior quality, and that's why they're in so much trouble. Besides, as others have said, there's no such thing as a car from ANY country anymore, because ALL cars have parts manufactured from MULTIPLE countries.
 
I'm American - I drove a 1993 Town Car until January this year. While I love the town car I wanted something a little shorter so the rest of the family wouldn't complain so much if they had to drive. I went to go look at the new Lincoln MKS (first model year car) with no reliability factors etc due to it being a new model. They wanted $45K+ for the loaded model and only offered a 4 year 50,000 warranty.

ITT a used car costs less than a new car.
 
We used to do this at an auto auction I worked at. Except we weren't taped doing it.
 
Maybe so but it's classified as a foreign car. It may be made in America but all the profits go home to Japan. If you really want to be proud and help your fellow Americans then buy a American made vehicle.

Uh...seriously? All major car manufacturers operate globally. Most GM cars are made outside the US. There are still some assembly plants here, where they piece together parts made worldwide by parts manufacturers, but the idea of an 'American car' is anachronistic.
 
If I were Jason, I'd have sent that DVD to corporate (I think he did too), alerted local news, written that letter to the dealership, and alerted local authorities.

This dealership is damn lucky this Jason guy didn't go legal.

Oh yea id make sure i got some cash monies from this deal.
 
Maybe so but it's classified as a foreign car. It may be made in America but all the profits go home to Japan. If you really want to be proud and help your fellow Americans then buy a American made vehicle.

I'd rather buy a smaller, same space, lower milage, better quality, cheaper, lower emission, a more sporty, comfy car.
Wow loads of stuff, well, i looove those epic mustangs(not the newest) charger, all those, but any new is just, get over it, those times are past.
There is no wrong in having diffrent look, i want diffrent looks, but learn from the japaneese and german, which actually is starting to happen, shame you guys loose opel/vauxhall which is actually is on the way up now, way up!
 
How would you feel if every time you took your car in to be serviced at the dealership, the employees repeatedly stole your stuff and watched porn in your car? Well, that is what happened to this guy so he hid a camera in his vehicle and busted them in the act.

Technically they were Hampton employees, not Toyota employees. Read about this when I was visiting my folks in LFT over the weekend.

Nevertheless, I think it's incredible that the guy would risk his job to steal 75 cents. That's fucking stupid.
 
Maybe so but it's classified as a foreign car. It may be made in America but all the profits go home to Japan. If you really want to be proud and help your fellow Americans then buy a American made vehicle.

On topic the fellow should have held out for something differant. Said thing is I bet he will still be missing quarters after the next oil change. Nobody like thieves, and the video linkage would have been nice.

And here I thought the profits went to stock holders around the world as well as into R&D, employee wages and benefits as well as new plants and upgrades to existing plants.

Sorry, but your premise is epically flawed, which makes your conclusions irrelevant.
 
THIS is your response???? That Toyota vehicles are made in the USA??? Do you think people who live in Bahrain pride themselves in the fact that 30% of Intel chips are made there? What about the fab labs is Israel?

Just because American employees are getting paid, doesn't mean the profit stays in American hands. Toyota is a Japanese company.

You want to make this country better? Stop espousing the fact that over-seas automakers find it more economically feasible to assemble vehicles here vice import them across the ocean. Twisting this into a belief that just because American employees had a hand in assembly, that the vehicle is "American made", is ridiculous. Ultimately, the profit those American's "made" is going straight back into Japanese hands. Paying Japanese taxes, improving the Japanese economy, and stabilizing the Japanese auto-industry.

Of course, if you don't want to make this country better (unscrew our piss poor auto-industry suffering from the misaligned brainwork you stated above), you can just move out. I try to always buy AMERICAN products built by American hands with the profits going to AMERICAN businesses. That's because I love this country, fight for it, and want to make it better.

-EGA
Chemist, Computer Scientist, and Captain of Marines

And now with the flaming I've just delivered -- official internet Troll.

Why do you feel the need to put your name as well as your resume at the bottom of all your posts?

American cars aren't the same quality as they used to be and they never will. They are greedy in the fact that they use sub par materials in manufacturing compared to European and Japanese automakers. I feel i'm getting my moneys worth buying something of higher quality from Europe or Japan for the same price as an American car with less build quality.

GM and Chrysler have the ability to make great cars, they just choose not to because they are greedy.
 
Luckily nothing like that happened to my car - I always see the service technician take down the VIN and odometer reading when I drop off my car. But I did notice that someone changed my radio from the CD to a preset station I rarely listen to.
 
Why do you feel the need to put your name as well as your resume at the bottom of all your posts?

American cars aren't the same quality as they used to be and they never will. They are greedy in the fact that they use sub par materials in manufacturing compared to European and Japanese automakers. I feel i'm getting my moneys worth buying something of higher quality from Europe or Japan for the same price as an American car with less build quality.

GM and Chrysler have the ability to make great cars, they just choose not to because they are greedy.

LOL. Talk about conceited. I'm going to start doing that at the end of all my own posts, just to show how awesome I think I am.


-Ordovician, M.Sc., Geological Sciences, Geologist, Teacher, Large Penis Owner, God
 
Do you have small hands? A co-worker also states he has a large penis, but has tiny hands. ;)
 
When i was at my mazda dealer a lady called up screaming that someone left a turd in her back seat, she was a witch so i wouldn't blame them lol. I heard the phone conversation, she asked the guy how much he weighed, he replied "350 lbs" she said this must be yours, i looks like a fat ass's turd.

So to the topic, watching porn in my car would be find by me, as long as the mechanic provides it and there is no jerking of anything.

Sure you did. That's a "phone prank" with Wanda Sykes(sp?). I know it's the internet but you don't need to lie to look cool bud :rolleyes:
 
Sure you did. That's a "phone prank" with Wanda Sykes(sp?). I know it's the internet but you don't need to lie to look cool bud :rolleyes:

Go back and read my other post, i fully admitted to mistaking it, geez, try reading before you attack me.
 
I'm American - I drove a 1993 Town Car until January this year. While I love the town car I wanted something a little shorter so the rest of the family wouldn't complain so much if they had to drive. I went to go look at the new Lincoln MKS (first model year car) with no reliability factors etc due to it being a new model. They wanted $45K+ for the loaded model and only offered a 4 year 50,000 warranty.

I bought a 2006 fully loaded Infinity M35x in the 20's certified pre-owned with a 5 year 100,000 mile warranty. It had 47,000 miles on it already so I essentially got a 3.5 year 53,000 mile warranty on a car with some fantastic reliability ratings.

Except for the MKS is based on the Ford Fusion platform which has had zero recalls since its introduction. The only thing different about MKS is the powertrain (which yes is a big deal) but proves to be more reliable then from previous years.

Look what consumer reports said:

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/04/ford-fusion-the-best-car-you-dont-know-about.html

I have a Ford Fusion and a friend with a Mazda 6. Most of the parts are interchangeable. Heck the engine in my Fusion is a Mazda 3 2.3i.

It is really unfair to compare the MKS to the Infinity. Most likely you got a car off a lease program that they probably already raped someone for on residual value. The fact that you are looking to be a depreciating asset for over 30 is beyond me. Anyone with a brain knows that 99 percent of those new Lincoln MKS owners are leasing, just like the Lexus, Infinity and BMW owners.

No average American spends 700 dollars a month of his salary buying a BMW 3 series on loan.
 
American cars suck ass though. I took my 10 year old, 120,000 mile Nissan Maxima in to get an oil change, and the guy kept remarking at how "immaculate" its condition was, and that I must take really good care of it (I do, but I'm not obsessive about it, and I don't even have a garage). Meanwhile he was servicing some piece of shit 5 year old Dodge next to mine that needed major repairs.

My girlfriend has another Maxima with even more miles, and we're waiting for it to hit 200k, with the original manual transmission. I get sick of this "buy American" crap. American cars are generally inferior quality, and that's why they're in so much trouble. Besides, as others have said, there's no such thing as a car from ANY country anymore, because ALL cars have parts manufactured from MULTIPLE countries.

Really? You do not think GM expanded too fast? Look at the companies they invested in: Saab, Hummer, Buick?

You really honestly think anyone buys a Buick? Lets look at the GM breakdown for cars under 30 grand of just their core:

Chevy
GMC
Pontiac
Saturn


Lets look at Fords
Ford
Mercury

Now lets look at some market share of namely the F150
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/0...et-share-silverado-leads-lightduty-sales.html

Can you please honestly tell me how it is a stupid investment to buy a Mustang, Escape or F150? All of them hold great residual value.

As far as reliability goes I know many American cars that have lasted 100,000 miles.
 
Really? You do not think GM expanded too fast? Look at the companies they invested in: Saab, Hummer, Buick?

You really honestly think anyone buys a Buick? Lets look at the GM breakdown for cars under 30 grand of just their core:

Chevy
GMC
Pontiac
Saturn

What's all this? Expanded too fast? Huh? GM is in trouble because they do not make a product that competes. The market has spoken. Besides, their one product line that was halfway close to having a good, innovative product (Saturn), they SOLD. Idiots.

Lets look at Fords
Ford
Mercury

Now lets look at some market share of namely the F150
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/0...et-share-silverado-leads-lightduty-sales.html

Can you please honestly tell me how it is a stupid investment to buy a Mustang, Escape or F150? All of them hold great residual value.

Mustangs are OK cars, but the rest of Ford's lineup, aside from maybe the Five Hundred, is total crap. You talk about the F-150 and how its so popular... that's like being the king of all nerds.. no one really cares. My response to your link is this review of the F-150 on Top Gear: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=36327772

"It's rubbish."

As far as reliability goes I know many American cars that have lasted 100,000 miles.

BAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow, really? 100,000 miles? WOW. Only someone who drives shit cars would be impressed by that. Thanks for proving my point.
 
Actually, Buicks are popular in China, and pretty soon you'll be buying things in Yuan anyway the way the U.S. Govt. likes to spend money they don't have. I'd invest in Buick before Saturn at this point.
 
What's all this? Expanded too fast? Huh? GM is in trouble because they do not make a product that competes. The market has spoken. Besides, their one product line that was halfway close to having a good, innovative product (Saturn), they SOLD. Idiots.



Mustangs are OK cars, but the rest of Ford's lineup, aside from maybe the Five Hundred, is total crap. You talk about the F-150 and how its so popular... that's like being the king of all nerds.. no one really cares. My response to your link is this review of the F-150 on Top Gear: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=36327772

"It's rubbish."



BAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow, really? 100,000 miles? WOW. Only someone who drives shit cars would be impressed by that. Thanks for proving my point.

GM invested in brands that were not worth shit instead of trying to secure more money like Ford did at a time before the market crashed. Now because the dealerships have closed and the firesales that GM is having the residual value is tanking on their products.

If I bought a car like the Pontiac G8 for 30,000 a year ago only to find it now worth 18,000 I would walk away from a brand even if it was the most reliable car.

I had a car for 10 years and drove the hell out of that car and only put 103,000 miles on my Toyota Celica. I had 3 recalls on the car. Granted it was reliable, I would say it was not one of Toyota's most reliable cars.

How far do you drive everyday? I usually drive around 18 miles a day and I only really put close to 13,000 miles a year on my car. That includes a 900 mile roundtrip to Minnesota in the summer. If you are driving upwards of 20,000 miles a year you might as well move closer to work or take public transportation.

Residual Value in my opinion falls off after 150,000 miles for any brand. Have fun selling in Toyota or Nissan in this market with 150,000 miles. Even Nissan is having a firesale on their Altima. Hell some 09 models qualify for 3,000 cash back plus 2.9 financing. With rates like that it would be stupid to buy a lightly used model for 17,000 with a 7 percent interest from a bank vs a new one for 20,000 with a cheaper rate and better return.

The F-150 is popular because the cost of ownership is lower than on the GMC pick ups etc. Plus the reliability is better. It has nothing to do with king of nerds, it makes common sense that there is a demand for F-150s, Escapes, and Mustangs. This leads to increased residual value.

My advice to you is to not buy a Mazda mid size. Most of the parts are shared between the Fusion and Mazda 6.
 
BAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow, really? 100,000 miles? WOW. Only someone who drives shit cars would be impressed by that. Thanks for proving my point.

My '98 Grand Am just hit 205,000 on the original engine and original tranny. Still running strong.

I've replaced most of the suspension parts, the water pump, a few A/C parts, etc, but that's pretty normal stuff for an 11-year old car with 200k.

Just sayin.
 
My '98 Grand Am just hit 205,000 on the original engine and original tranny. Still running strong.

I've replaced most of the suspension parts, the water pump, a few A/C parts, etc, but that's pretty normal stuff for an 11-year old car with 200k.

Just sayin.

To argue a "200,000" mile automobile in this economy is stupid. You will have a hell of a time selling any used car after 120,000 miles without any of the required maintenance and paper work to back it up.

Not to mention that even on a Maxima that is probably worth 8,000 to spend 2,000 in maintenance costs (unless you know someone to change it for less) for tires, fluids, any other issues, brakes etc is stupid in this economy.

My 2001 Toyota Celica with 103,000 miles Blue Booked on the private party for 5800. It needed tires bad, spark plugs at 110,000 miles (quoted at 200 for the install and plugs), manual clutch fluid flush, power steering probably needed it in 20,000 miles, CV joints on both sides at around 300 dollars and I just did brakes for 60 bucks.

So instead of spending spending 1,500 I just traded it off for 5200 and took the rebates plus additional 2,000 on a Ford Fusion. Plus I did not have to worry about listing fees to sell it, my time or most importantly the additional 300 dollars in sales tax.
 
To argue a "200,000" mile automobile in this economy is stupid. You will have a hell of a time selling any used car after 120,000 miles without any of the required maintenance and paper work to back it up.

Not to mention that even on a Maxima that is probably worth 8,000 to spend 2,000 in maintenance costs (unless you know someone to change it for less) for tires, fluids, any other issues, brakes etc is stupid in this economy.

My 2001 Toyota Celica with 103,000 miles Blue Booked on the private party for 5800. It needed tires bad, spark plugs at 110,000 miles (quoted at 200 for the install and plugs), manual clutch fluid flush, power steering probably needed it in 20,000 miles, CV joints on both sides at around 300 dollars and I just did brakes for 60 bucks.

So instead of spending spending 1,500 I just traded it off for 5200 and took the rebates plus additional 2,000 on a Ford Fusion. Plus I did not have to worry about listing fees to sell it, my time or most importantly the additional 300 dollars in sales tax.

Uh, so basically instead of spending 1300 dollars on basic maintenance (which in reality you can do all that on your own and not spend anywhere near as much...except maybe putting the tires on the rim.) on a perfectly good running car that I assume is paid off. You went and bought a 20000 dollar car and now have saddled yourself with monthly payments? You sir, are an idiot if you think that makes good economic sense.
 
So instead of spending spending 1,500 I just traded it off for 5200 and took the rebates plus additional 2,000 on a Ford Fusion. Plus I did not have to worry about listing fees to sell it, my time or most importantly the additional 300 dollars in sales tax.

Instead of spending $1500 you spent $21,000 on a new car? And that's smarter?

:confused:
 
And most ppl who have a 200000 mile car areant worried about selling it. The drive it because:

1. It runs
2. It paid off
3. They are gonna drive it till it dies.
 
Uh, so basically instead of spending 1300 dollars on basic maintenance (which in reality you can do all that on your own and not spend anywhere near as much...except maybe putting the tires on the rim.) on a perfectly good running car that I assume is paid off. You went and bought a 20000 dollar car and now have saddled yourself with monthly payments? You sir, are an idiot if you think that makes good economic sense.

Did not say it was the best idea. The point I was trying to get across is that there are deals to be had on new cars in this economy.

I can not do that on my own. I do not have the tools or time to learn. Tires are at least 500, spark plugs are at least 150-200 with labor, plus fluids etc. I said in my post that if you could do it on your own or knew someone it makes sense, but for most there is a reason these shops stay in business.

I only had 4 months of monthly payments since I put 7,000 on the car plus paid off the remaining 6,000 last month.

The only thing that was stupid was the sales tax, which I can take a deduction on without itemization.

I have a question? What else are you going to do with money in this economy? Even the S&P is dipping under the standard 4-5 percent RoR. My RoR last year was around 2-3 percent between MMAs, stocks, and IRAs.

It is better to wipe my own ass with my money. Even if I took a hit on depreciation I still have an asset to my name that Blue Books at around 18,000. Heck I would be happy if got 15,000 for my car, which I believe I could. Plus the car does not require maintenance for 3 years aside from tires which are warrantied to last for 20,000 miles along with the 8,000 oil change intervals that Ford picks up for 3 years.
 
And most ppl who have a 200000 mile car areant worried about selling it. The drive it because:

1. It runs
2. It paid off
3. They are gonna drive it till it dies.

Then I must be an exception because even at 40,000 a year I can still max out a IRA, pay off a car with a 7,000 down payment, and pick up defined pension.
 
Why do you feel the need to put your name as well as your resume at the bottom of all your posts?

...because I am proud of what I have accomplished. Why do you feel the need to address it? Does it bother you?

LOL. Talk about conceited. I'm going to start doing that at the end of all my own posts, just to show how awesome I think I am.


-Ordovician, M.Sc., Geological Sciences, Geologist, Teacher, Large Penis Owner, God

Really?? You have a detailed list at the bottom of all your posts advertising the hardware specifications of your multiple computers at home. Pot...Kettle?


Regardless, you both have the liberty to scorn my signature line however you wish. At the end of the day, it is my job to ensure you have the freedom to do so.

-EGA
No sig this time, I wouldn't want to aggravate anyone.
 
Residual Value in my opinion falls off after 150,000 miles for any brand. Have fun selling in Toyota or Nissan in this market with 150,000 miles. Even Nissan is having a firesale on their Altima. Hell some 09 models qualify for 3,000 cash back plus 2.9 financing. With rates like that it would be stupid to buy a lightly used model for 17,000 with a 7 percent interest from a bank vs a new one for 20,000 with a cheaper rate and better return.

Why would you sell your Toyota with 150k on it? If you just want a new car, then OK, but Toyota's are known to be reliable for well over 200k miles. I've had mine for 11 years. Only have 130k (give or take) on it, but the only thing that died was the key less entry.....the CD player is less than great (a problem i've seen in virtually all 90's Toyota cars/trucks), but those peripheral problems aside, the only money I've put into it is for scheduled maintenance and things like tires, wiper blades.

As for Nissan, they've had blow outs on cars for years. I'm not sure what their reliability is like these days, but 10 or so years ago, it wasn't close to Toyota or Honda.
 
Since were talking about mileage my ole '95 Avalon has 350K and runs so smooth.
 
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