jojo69
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nope, sorry
my migration path when 7 finally breaks is Linux, if I lose some games so be it
my migration path when 7 finally breaks is Linux, if I lose some games so be it
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DX12 anyone ?
I guess that period is long gone. For what is described above you need to actually upgrade to 10 from within 7, at least initially. Once installed and MS mapped your HW ID, you can install from a blank disc without any key at all.
I would tie that lic to a MS account, if it is retail, so you can reuse the lic on another PC later on. Did that for all my .ehhh like 15 Win7. I have enough 10 lics parked at MS to install it till the year 3075, hehe.
My beef, telemetry aside, is the lack of control over the updates and how they keep on resetting things back to default. We have a W10 box in the office and I have grown to detest that piece of crap which makes more work for me. Would not be so damn bad if it was me making the work for me, but it isn't. It is those damn updates doing it.
No way in hell will I install something that makes more work for me to do. Not going to happen. Not now, not ever.
All that said, I see no benefit to it. Sure there is the arbitrary new hardware loss of support, which on principle is enough to drive me away from it. Other than that, why? All my applications functions under Windows 7.
Unless Microsoft decides to extend the deadline again, today is the last day to upgrade to Windows 10 for free using the assistive technologies loophole. January 9th Microsoft ended mainstream support for Windows 8.1, and moving it to "extended support" meaning it will get only security updates for the next 5 years. Essentially, Windows 8.1 is dead.
While I agree from a telemetry standpoint, Windows 10 is pretty terrible. That said, on an Operating System standpoint, I've found Windows 10 quite good. I upgraded my main PC to it the first day of the upgrade to start testing it, then after a bout a month I moved all my machines onto it without a problem. I just wish they'd start doing some sales in the Windows store, I want Forza!
Can we say for certain whether January 16 is the absolute, drop-dead, pinky-swear, final cutoff for the assistive upgrade? No, we can’t. It’s possible that Microsoft really wants users to upgrade to Windows 10 and is using the loophole as an perpetually extensible back door of sorts to allow upgrades. It’s also possible that Microsoft’s moment of mercy will end soon.
Until 2020...LONG LIVE WINDOWS 7!!!!!
I use Linux mint but gaming I still go back to Windows 7
Have you guys seen this bloatware free edition? I read that it's pretty darn light:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_bloatware_free_edition.html
UPDATE:
Thanks! Just burned to DVD in case I needed it.
System Restore (which I never have done it before) saved my neck on my ancient ASUS PC. Now it's bootable.
No problem Planning to use it for my future mini-ITX build with a Ryzen APU, it's about time to retire my 25w AM1.
As dead as windows 7, which started it's fourth year in extended support ? Actually it means it is stable and you can expect it to work the same way tomorrow as it did yesterday, unlike 10.Unless Microsoft decides to extend the deadline again, today is the last day to upgrade to Windows 10 for free using the assistive technologies loophole. January 9th Microsoft ended mainstream support for Windows 8.1, and moving it to "extended support" meaning it will get only security updates for the next 5 years. Essentially, Windows 8.1 is dead.
Telemetry is the least of 10's problem it doesn't affect me in daily life, it's just an afterthought in the back of my mind that they're collecting my data. But the rest affects me on an almost daily basis. Unexpected reboots, borked driver updates, settings removed, features re-located or removed. file associations reset.While I agree from a telemetry standpoint, Windows 10 is pretty terrible. That said, on an Operating System standpoint, I've found Windows 10 quite good. I upgraded my main PC to it the first day of the upgrade to start testing it, then after a bout a month I moved all my machines onto it without a problem. I just wish they'd start doing some sales in the Windows store, I want Forza!
This is the core issue right here. The fact that you've lost control of your system with Windows 10 and it can interfere with things that were previously working I'm never going to be able to get used to. I swear, I feel like everyone touting the "it works fine for me, therefore everyone else must an idiot" line is practically saying "I don't use my system for a wide range of uses software-wise, so Windows 10 is just fine." It's almost as bad as the part of the Linux crowd that purposefully denies the issues Linux has and insists it's perfect also. I've never understood why people develop zealotry around an OS.Telemetry is the least of 10's problem it doesn't affect me in daily life, it's just an afterthought in the back of my mind that they're collecting my data. But the rest affects me on an almost daily basis. Unexpected reboots, borked driver updates, settings removed, features re-located or removed. file associations reset.
I can agree with this, every big update recently has re-set my network and sharing stuff which is a couple minute pain in the ass to put back, but there really hasn't been anything too major for me to complain about, for the most part everything is exactly how and where it was in 7
"I don't use my system for a wide range of uses software-wise, so Windows 10 is just fine." It's almost as bad as the part of the Linux crowd that purposefully denies the issues Linux has and insists it's perfect also. I've never understood why people develop zealotry around an OS.
A banking business sounds like a textbook definition of limited use. I mean what do you need to run on there, office software, custom bank software, internet browsing? It could be good enough for that, because you have far more control over what's being run on your system, as long as updates don't interfere with those core programs, you're good to go. The point is say there's an update that causes you a problem personally (but does not affect the majority of users) and Microsoft never fixes the problem for you afterwards (something I've already experienced). On Windows 7, you simply skip that particular update, the end. On Windows 10, you're fucked. The only control is whether you would like to be fucked now or fucked later.There are plenty of folks that use Windows 10 with a wide range of software and hardware across work and play. We're deploying 10 at work on over 200k machines and could never do so at a major bank if it we as problematic as some say it is, though that's in an enterprise environment with much more control than a typical user.
Our lab system went into a constant reboot cycle after the Fall Creator Update installed. We had to wipe it out and reinstall Windows 10. The intrusive nature of the updates where you get interrupted to reboot in the middle of a project drives me nuts.
My thinking is this. I have over $25,000 worth of applications which all work very well under Windows 7. Why should I risk going to Windows 10?
I feel like these two posts sum up the intellectual rigor of both sides of this entire discussion.If you are a Windows user and are not on Windows 10 at this point, you are an idiot.
Have you guys seen this bloatware free edition? I read that it's pretty darn light:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_bloatware_free_edition.html
A banking business sounds like a textbook definition of limited use.
On Windows 7, you simply skip that particular update, the end. On Windows 10, you're fucked. The only control is whether you would like to be fucked now or fucked later.
That's such a huge paradigm shift in how an operating system is run, it kind of astounds me that people don't see a problem with it from a conceptual level and just have blind faith because they personally don't have problems.
It is my understanding that if anyone had installed windows 10 during the free period and then rolled back they have a digital license for a free win 10 upgrade later on...