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This could be dumb, but....

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magoo

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Decided to start folding again :

2 questions.

1) can I recover my old points? I had a million but ti was several years ago.

2) in Windows 7 I was folding using the CPU and an AMD 5850 and the machine went to sleep and stopped folding? Why would it hibernate if it was crunching numbers? Do I need to disable hibernation?

Machine: evga 790i Ultra, 4GB DDR3 at 1600, Q6600 at stock for now, 5850 using Cat 11.2
using the GPU software thing.
 
1. If you're using the same name and team number I'd hazzard a guess that you could. If not, then no.
2. Yep, disable hibernate. They go to sleep based on user input (keyboard,mouse movements)
 
10-4.
I looked and tried to find the old points.....SOL I guess. At any rate, using my same user name and team number I did not recoup them, which sucks.

I will disable hibernate and get things back to work.:D
 
that's odd. are you sure you correctly remember your old username?

 
jebo_4jc said:
when you're done with that one, would you test jebo_4jc on team 33 for me?

Thanks.
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I'm sure you want me to test out your name with my SR-2! Just to make sure!
I'm testing with a 9800gts at stock shaders.
Only puts out like 3k. It's in one of my -bigadv rigs.
It's one of the only cards I can access over the internet.
 
Also don't forget to sign up for a passkey if you havn't done so already. You will need it if you wish to get bonus points for the SMP work units.

http://folding.stanford.edu/Spanish/FAQ-passkey

The other thing to keep in mind is that it likely isn't worth it to fold on your ATI video card right now. The current ATI GPU2 client is horribly unoptimized for current ATI cards, and a new GPU3 ATI client that is optimized is currently in closed beta testing. The current ATI client also sucks away a lot of cpu cycles that your cpu could be using to fold. Hopefully, we will see a public release shortly as ATI cards are supposed to be incredibly good at these type of calculations.

Welcome back to the team!
 
AMD.......thanks for the info.
I noticed on Afterburner that the utilization of the card was very irratic, anywhere from 100% to 50% in the blink of an eye.

I did get a passkey number.

Things are just different enough from three or so years ago that I wasn't sure about some of this stuff.:D

Going for another million, hopefully it won't take as long.....took a year with three dual core machines before.
 
magoo said:
AMD.......thanks for the info.
I noticed on Afterburner that the utilization of the card was very irratic, anywhere from 100% to 50% in the blink of an eye.

I did get a passkey number.

Things are just different enough from three or so years ago that I wasn't sure about some of this stuff.:D

Going for another million, hopefully it won't take as long.....took a year with three dual core machines before.
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Yeah, a lot of us folders have ATI video cards and we choose not to run them because they produce so few points. Luckily for us, I hear that we should be seeing a public release of the ATI GPU3 client at some point possibly sooner than later. When it happens, these ATI video cards are going to really kick major ass. There are other DC projects out there where ATI video cards are outproducing the nVidia cards. Once this happens, this should be a huge benefit for our team. This is especially true since we know how incredible efficient ATI cards are right now.

Here's to your next million!
 
amdgamer said:
Yeah, a lot of us folders have ATI video cards and we choose not to run them because they produce so few points. Luckily for us, I hear that we should be seeing a public release of the ATI GPU3 client at some point possibly sooner than later. When it happens, these ATI video cards are going to really kick major ass. There are other DC projects out there where ATI video cards are outproducing the nVidia cards. Once this happens, this should be a huge benefit for our team. This is especially true since we know how incredible efficient ATI cards are right now.

Here's to your next million!
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there are rumors swirling that the PPD of the ATI client isn't going to blow your socks off. I don't think PPD will be bad, but I don't think you'll be seeing PPD numbers like you do from Milkyway (which, it seems, some AMD fans expect). I'm guessing the PPD of the ATI cards will be roughly in line with their nvidia competitors.
 
magoo said:
Going for another million, hopefully it won't take as long.....took a year with three dual core machines before.
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If you fold on all the hardware in your signature, a million points will only take about two weeks.
 
jebo_4jc said:
there are rumors swirling that the PPD of the ATI client isn't going to blow your socks off. I don't think PPD will be bad, but I don't think you'll be seeing PPD numbers like you do from Milkyway (which, it seems, some AMD fans expect). I'm guessing the PPD of the ATI cards will be roughly in line with their nvidia competitors.
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So long as it is competitive enough to give folders another option, that is good enough for me. I just want folders to have a choice as i'm such a free market guy.

Zero82z said:
If you fold on all the hardware in your signature, a million points will only take about two weeks.
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Yeah man, lets get that Bloomfield I see in that sig up and folding!
 
jebo_4jc said:
there are rumors swirling that the PPD of the ATI client isn't going to blow your socks off. I don't think PPD will be bad, but I don't think you'll be seeing PPD numbers like you do from Milkyway (which, it seems, some AMD fans expect). I'm guessing the PPD of the ATI cards will be roughly in line with their nvidia competitors.
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That's fine because they use so much less power. If my 5870 produces 12K PPD and uses like 50 watts less than my GTX 480, win!
 
I wish I had an ATI card to play with right now but .... ;)
 
10e said:
That's fine because they use so much less power. If my 5870 produces 12K PPD and uses like 50 watts less than my GTX 480, win!
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from what I gather, that seems reasonable
 
Tobit said:
I wish I had an ATI card to play with right now but .... ;)
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I have a pair, but i'm not a beta tester. :eek:

Of course I wouldn't want to be one either simply because i'm a set and forget person who hates babysitting a computer.

It is the efficiency aspect that intrigues me. For those of you guys who havn't read the new ATI 6990 review today, it is amazing how little power the 6970 and even the dual GPU 6990 uses under full gaming load.
 
amdgamer said:
I have a pair, but i'm not a beta tester. :eek:

Of course I wouldn't want to be one either simply because i'm a set and forget person who hates babysitting a computer.

It is the efficiency aspect that intrigues me. For those of you guys who havn't read the new ATI 6990 review today, it is amazing how little power the 6970 and even the dual GPU 6990 uses under full gaming load.
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I have been under the impression that the 5000 series of AMD cards were very good at folding. I'm disappointed to hear there isn't yet a good program for them.

The lower power use was what had me interested in using my 5850 for folding.
 
magoo said:
I have been under the impression that the 5000 series of AMD cards were very good at folding. I'm disappointed to hear there isn't yet a good program for them.

The lower power use was what had me interested in using my 5850 for folding.
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No, unfortunately ATI cards won't be good at folding until that new GPU3 ATI optimized client comes out. For now, they use way too much juice for the production you get from them. This is why GPU folders overwhelmingly use nVidia cards at this point in time. When that new GPU client comes out, it will finally bring some competition in that folders will not be bound to a certain company anymore.
 
magoo said:
I have been under the impression that the 5000 series of AMD cards were very good at folding. I'm disappointed to hear there isn't yet a good program for them.

The lower power use was what had me interested in using my 5850 for folding.
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For several reasons, some people have been expecting AMD cards to be exceedingly good at folding. They will give you arguments about how the Radeon architecture *should* be able to run FAH at a mind blowing speed, and they will support their claims by citing Milkyway@Home, which apparently runs very well on Radeon cards.

However, from what I understand, the early numbers from the OpenGL client on Radeon cards puts them roughly in line with nvidia cards if you compare their gaming performance. Which, in my opinion, is OK.
 
jebo_4jc said:
For several reasons, some people have been expecting AMD cards to be exceedingly good at folding. They will give you arguments about how the Radeon architecture *should* be able to run FAH at a mind blowing speed, and they will support their claims by citing Milkyway@Home, which apparently runs very well on Radeon cards.

However, from what I understand, the early numbers from the OpenGL client on Radeon cards puts them roughly in line with nvidia cards if you compare their gaming performance. Which, in my opinion, is OK.
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You mean OpenCL right?

Out of curiosity, i'm always curious why F&H is choosing to use OpenCL rather than something like DirectCompute.
 
yes I meant OpenCL

and I think AMD has basically said DirectCompute is dead.

OpenCL is the way of the future since it is a unified API.
 
The OpenCL client needs to come out soon. I just bought a 6850 for gaming, but want to get it folding too. If it folds on par with Nvidia cards that would be good enough for me. They need to hurry up already.

And I believe DirectCompute is Windows only, which is one big reason why they wouldn't want to use it. OpenCL is an open standard and can be implemented by any hardware manufacturer. It makes sense to use it if they can get it working well.
 
jebo_4jc said:
yes I meant OpenCL

and I think AMD has basically said DirectCompute is dead.

OpenCL is the way of the future since it is a unified API.
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That's what I thought, but you must have had John Carmak on your mind or something. That guy must be one of the last champions of OpenGL left.
 
5870 is a wide arch.... the reason stanford cites for poor performance...
so the larger the wu the better they would do...
yet they tend to only give them 1200 atom units or less

gimmie bigadv for 5870
 
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