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I really don't understand why CoolerMaster would f^(% up this bad. Most of their products are very good. I know that their PSU line has needed an upgrade, but why blatantly lie about it. This just make them look untrustworthy and makes me want to stay away from ALL their products , not just their PSUs.
Level 10GT FTWreally CM? just... no, I was going to buy the HAF X, now its the Tt level 10 GT.
I love my HAF-X.
Them lying like every other company will not make me love it any less. That being said i only use Corsair power supplies so this really doesn't affect me directly anyway.
HAH! they took down their own video! i actually lold...
http://www.youtube.com/user/CoolerMasterNA
go post some comments for them asking where the video went
I love my HAF-X.
Them lying like every other company will not make me love it any less. That being said i only use Corsair power supplies so this really doesn't affect me directly anyway.
That is awesome, I just went to newegg to verify silverstones picture on the CM psu and it looks like silverstone took the image straight from newegg. What is worse IMO is that this unit is only a 70%+ efficient unit, I didn't even know they made PSUs that weren't 80+ anymore.
Oh come on, people would not want to buy their products over this, gimme a break. Its the fail of a few individual(s?), what the heck does that have to do with CM in general? I can hear the cries already, "but what about the misdirection on something like a 500W implication on said PS?! Please, if you dont know that everyone is fudging the numbers a little bit, you are surely just a moron and havent done your research. Since the beginning of PS time, they have overrated their products.
It wasnt until there was a higher end enthusiast section did they start "underrating" their products to allow for wiggle room at the high end. Was this likely done to be "HONEST", I highly suspect not. This was done because at the high end, a user WILL very likely use that much power and I doubt they want a lot of people pushing their products to an area where they will in fact fail, and yet be within their claimed ratings.
The truth, just about every company out there is doing just enough to make the product perform as needed and not a damn bit more. They are in fact a business and I dont blame them. Much less CM.
Personally I have found their products fine, I read the ratings, I read reviews, and make the best decision I can. Unfortunately not everyone does... To each their own.
It wasnt until there was a higher end enthusiast section did they start "underrating" their products to allow for wiggle room at the high end. Was this likely done to be "HONEST", I highly suspect not.
What's depressing isn't even the terrible marketing people who came up with this. It's the fact they still sell really crappy psus. There's a difference between a budget psu like Earthwatts/CX and just crap. If coolermaster really wanted to be serious about the psu market, they'd EOL all the actual crap. Then make some real quality budget psus instead. This is what we get from Antec and Corsair, which is why I can generally trust cheap people looking at those brands for psus.
You do realize that Antec had a huge number of low end power supplies fail a few years ago. They were caught using cheap components and it cost them. Well they dont actually make power supplies but they used cheap manufacturers (CMC i think?)
Here's a novel concept. Make a good product, and tell the truth, and you don't have to worry about how to spin it. The product will sell itself. For example, I have a Coolermaster HAF-932. It is an excellent case and I feel it is worth every penny I paid for it. It does exactly what I need it to do and does it well. I never once saw an advertisement for it, nobody "explained" it to me, I just looked over the features and saw that it fit my needs.
Coolermaster, please take the opportunity to learn from this. You cannot fudge numbers and fool the tech savvy so don't even try. Just improve your power supplies, let the [H] torture test them, and if they come out with an Enthusiast Award you'll make some serious money. It's really not any harder than that, and it sure beats damage control.
That explains why Silverstone mentioned the "Company C" in their AP fan advertisement lol.Interesting to note that Silverstone was founded by ex-Coolermaster employees. Perhaps a little payback?
Not taking CM's side, but do you recall a certain processor company *cough AMD cough* labeling their processors with numbers that weren't their actual speed? It's just marketing 101 and it always will be. These companies feel they can't make the all mighty dollar with an honest product.
Not taking CM's side, but do you recall a certain processor company *cough AMD cough* labeling their processors with numbers that weren't their actual speed? It's just marketing 101 and it always will be. These companies feel they can't make the all mighty dollar with an honest product.
Not taking CM's side, but do you recall a certain processor company *cough AMD cough* labeling their processors with numbers that weren't their actual speed? It's just marketing 101 and it always will be. These companies feel they can't make the all mighty dollar with an honest product.
If it doesn't have the 80 Plus logo on it, it's not 80+...
You do realize that Antec had a huge number of low end power supplies fail a few years ago. They were caught using cheap components and it cost them.
The problem is the vast majority of the masses don't care.
They vote with there wallet on which product is best to them, and unfortunately price is winner.
Not taking CM's side, but do you recall a certain processor company *cough AMD cough* labeling their processors with numbers that weren't their actual speed?
You do realize that Antec had a huge number of low end power supplies fail a few years ago. They were caught using cheap components and it cost them. Well they dont actually make power supplies but they used cheap manufacturers (CMC i think?)
Well they dont actually make power supplies but they used cheap manufacturers (CMC i think?)
Not taking CM's side, but do you recall a certain processor company *cough AMD cough* labeling their processors with numbers that weren't their actual speed? It's just marketing 101 and it always will be. These companies feel they can't make the all mighty dollar with an honest product.
Yeah, there's no way an engineer was involved in any part of this Cooler Master marketing campaign. Not only did they miss the MAX COMBINED POWER of 450w for the whole unit, but they missed the combined power for the shared channels:
3.3v (22A) & 5v (25A): rated for 197w combined, but only able to produce a maximum combined output of 165w.
12v1 (18A) & 12v2 (18A): rated for 432w combined, but only able to produce a maximum combined output of 360w.
In the crappy chart, they used the max rated power per-channel.