The Delidding for Cheapskates Thread

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Nightfire, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. Nightfire

    Nightfire Gawd

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    I am hoping to get a thread going that may help those of us that want to delid but do not want to spend the $50 or so to buy a delidder from some of these sharks on the net.

    For those that have a $300+ processor, that $50 is probably worth it, but for those of us that paid under $200, that is a lot tougher to swallow.

    In short, please post methods of a cheap way to delid. PLEASE BE SPECIFIC. Let us know exactly what parts you used, what type of processor you did it on, and exactly HOW you did it.

    Additionally, I would like to see people here that are willing to lease there delidders to others on the forums. It would be pretty sweet to see people rent out there delid tools for $10 or so. Let's keep each other [H]ard!
     
  2. Fuzzy_3D

    Fuzzy_3D [H]Lite

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    I'm... gonna sit this one out lads.

    That being said, I used the Vice method on my 3770k, took all of 5 minutes with no fuss. Literally a set of table vice, some electric tape on the jaws to prevent any scratches, and a cardboard flier from the mail under the chip to catch it.

    I wouldn't use it on the new chips since they have a lot more SMDs to worry about, but I've seen some solid looking 3D printed delidder designs. Given a good track record I'd blast one of those out, recoup some of that 3D printer investment :D.
     
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  3. Spartacus09

    Spartacus09 [H]Lite

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    Personally the highest price I've seen is $40 for the rockitcool88 kit (though if you get liquid metal and gasket maker it'd be closer to $55-60 for parts) as Fuzzy noted you if you have a 3d printer they have alot of print options.
    Or they have the print on demand services, I had a fairly large shroud made for my Ubiquiti USG for 8$ shipped, and third option is ebay they have pre-printed tools as well as knockoffs of varying styles for 10-20$.

    Vice method is the only reliable "free" method I've read being used, but does have a higher risk than a tool and thats assuming you own a vice already.

    I bought the 1155 socket rockit tool thats worked great I also have 6 chips to delid so it was alot easier to justify the cost, 4/4 cpu so far though (one of them being soldered on even, though I don't recommend it that way after trying it).
    I'm going to delid my last two then I'd be willing to rent it out for whomever needs it, heck if they're local to Austin, stop by and I'll help.
     
  4. LigTasm

    LigTasm [H]ardness Supreme

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    I bought the rockit kit and used it on multiple chips from different generations, was worth the price. I would also be willing to loan out my tool if someone needed it.
     
  5. Nightfire

    Nightfire Gawd

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    I was actually looking for something that works with am4 (Raven Ridge). I believe there is an adapter, but I can't find it.
     
  6. Aenra

    Aenra Limp Gawd

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    Except no one asked you to :)
    It's a warranty voiding, risky and delicate endeavour that is not condoned, let alone encouraged; cheap ass manufacturing policies notwithstanding, this is entirely on you (i hate toothpaste sandwiching too, but..)

    Now if you want to do this, two branches:
    - You're on an older Intel and/or an AM4 APU, in which case, yes, 101%, you can delid them 'on your own'. You need some good quality, straight, razor-like sharp implement (X-Acto or something of this caliber), a heat gun, a credit card and a lot of patience. You have the patience, you can manage it.
    - You're on an X299 SKU, in which case, heed my advice and be warned that no, you cannot do this on your own without a very high chance of breaking something, mostly SMDs. The way the layout is, you have no handhold of sorts to apply pressure to while pulling from the other end; chances are you'll regret trying it on your own. Buy a kit, or call it a day and do nothing.

    (as to the kit you mentioned for AM4 APUs, it is indeed an addon, main unit is sold separately: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41957/der8auer-delid-die-mate-2-amd-add-on-kit/ )
     
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  7. zoobaka

    zoobaka n00bie

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  8. Nightfire

    Nightfire Gawd

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    Hmm, most of these places don't ship APO so I guess I will just wait until I return stateside (which is soon). I am too much of a putz to do the razor method, so I would definitely use a delidder tool. I am guessing the AM4 adapter only works with the de8auer tool, shich kind of makes it pricey and hard to do with a cheap Chinese delidder.
     
  9. cdabc123

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    as someone who will delid anything and has delided prettymuch anything without spending anything here are the two methods i usally use

    no solder (this is extremely easy) . put the ihs in my vice and rotate pcb till it popes off. or put a wood ship agenst the side and hit it with a rubber mallet (pay atention to if the pcb has small componants on it)

    solder. run a razor along the edge and put one razor in each corner to apply some tention to the chip. put cpu in vice with a peice of wood agenst the heat spreader so if i tighten the vice it pushes the heat spreader off. heat with a blowtourch for some majical time and crank on the vice.
     
  10. cdabc123

    cdabc123 [H]ard|Gawd

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    if the cpu isn't soldered its a redicuasly easy task that i could do with rocks from outside and a picture of the delided chip to know where the smd's are. it doesnt even take patience literally juts a hit from a mallet on the vice or rotate the ihs off. soldered cpus, however, are a completly differnt story with household tools.
     
  11. Bootes

    Bootes n00bie

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    Sounds like a great way to blow 300 bucks. But if you've done it before then it must mean youre a pro lol.
     
  12. VanGoghComplex

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    I've only ever used a tool (my trusty Rockit88!) but now that I've seen how it works, I'd have little anxiety trying it with a vice. That said, even if you got a good deal on the chip, I still think a purpose-built tool is worth the money - with delidding, your risk isn't really what the chip cost, but rather it's what you'd have to pay to replace it if something goes wrong.
     
  13. cdabc123

    cdabc123 [H]ard|Gawd

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    I wouldnt try to do it on an expencive soldered cpu but for the other ones i wouldnt think twice. cpus are alot less fragile then you may think
     
  14. Nenu

    Nenu Pick your own.....you deserve it.

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    I used a stanley knife to cut mine out.
    Taking my time I cut all the way round, a little at a time, going deeper with each rotation.
    It probably took 15 minutes to finish.
    I got a few scrapes on the green top coat, nothing to worry about, but the perfectionist side of me was annoyed because it could have been avoided if my attention didnt wander.