I just got all my parts in and just finished setting them up. My specs are: Intel E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz, Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB PC2-8000 DDR-1000, EVGA 680i, 2x Seagate SATA. My water cooling parts are: Pro-120 Hi Performance Radiator (http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=103&HS=1), Swiftech MCP655 pump, Danger Den Copper TDX water block and a D-TEK Bay-Reservoir (http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=159). I have two 120m fans on the radiator and am using the push and pull method. I have the system setup as Reservoir -> Pump -> Radiator -> Water Block -> Reservoir. Now I used this setup for my old 939 opteron 165 rig, but with a different and crappy pump and water block. I oc'd my opteron to 3Ghz and the temps were great where I got 31-32C idle and 37-39C load. Now I switched to the Intel system and I am getting horrible temps. I first started the system on stock and was getting 34-35C idle and 41-42C load. Right now I have my system oc'd to 3.24Ghz and the temps are now 45-46C idle and 49-50C load, which is scaring me because I'm afraid the temps will go crazy if I play any games or do anything stressful. I have the cpu voltage set at 1.37V, I've played around with the voltage and I could go as low as 1.36V but it wasn't fully stable, and the memory voltage set to 2.0V. I've looked at other threads around here and see people getting in the low 30's and even 20's for their temps with the same cpu. Now my question is should I invest in better parts and also how can I go about getting lowers temps?
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Temp problems and question about setup
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BillParrish
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yes, your idle temp is way too high,
k, only thing you changed is pump:
you have it set on 4 or 5 ?
and the block:
Did you lapp the block and cpu ? (or check the "footprint" of the mount. ) you need to check your block mount so might as well at least lap the IHS on that cpu, typically they are horrible. I would check the block for flat with the single edge razor blade method, and think about lapping that if its not flat. Hopefully the block will be ok and you wont have to drain the thing. Someone that knows that rad and block could probally suggest which restrictor jet you should be using (i say rip the thing out, but I am a high flow junkie).
Crank down on the screws until the springs are 1/2 compressed. If you can wiggle the block without too much effort, crank down some more.
k, only thing you changed is pump:
you have it set on 4 or 5 ?
and the block:
Did you lapp the block and cpu ? (or check the "footprint" of the mount. ) you need to check your block mount so might as well at least lap the IHS on that cpu, typically they are horrible. I would check the block for flat with the single edge razor blade method, and think about lapping that if its not flat. Hopefully the block will be ok and you wont have to drain the thing. Someone that knows that rad and block could probally suggest which restrictor jet you should be using (i say rip the thing out, but I am a high flow junkie).
Crank down on the screws until the springs are 1/2 compressed. If you can wiggle the block without too much effort, crank down some more.
I have the pump on 4 right now. No I didn't lapp the cpu but I did lapp the water block. I checked the water block and its securely in its place, doesn't move and isn't loose. What I'm going to do now is take everything apart and place the water block in a different position. Right now I have the water block facing downwards.
Here is how my setup looks (sorry for the crappy quality took the pic with my phone)
Here is how my setup looks (sorry for the crappy quality took the pic with my phone)
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hmm you are right, took another look at his post, (lol, so much info)
Little high on the idle end but the delta is excellent, I run 40 idle and 52 load.
I bet its a warm room?
shouldnt you have the loop setup with the waterblocks coming in before the radiator? it doesnt make sense to have the heated water sit in the reservoir and THEN going to the radiator...
my recommendation is this:
Reservoir -> Pump -> Water Block -> Radiator -> Reservoir.
also are you using coretemp or TAT for measuring temps? i didnt see any on your post.
my recommendation is this:
Reservoir -> Pump -> Water Block -> Radiator -> Reservoir.
also are you using coretemp or TAT for measuring temps? i didnt see any on your post.
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If they're getting a 20'c temp (idle or load) they're lying.
OP: You're fine. Just check your load temps with "intel TAT" and come back to us. As long as your temperatures are under 65c with that program you're fine.
I load at about 55 with my TDX on water @ 3.5ghz
On a PA120.3 in 21c ambient room temps and a lone loop for an E6700 the best I can get is about 28/29c and 31-34c load, not overclocked. Load is typically about 31c. If you can beat that on a similar CPU I'd love to know what rad you're using, the res you're using, fluid and paste, etc. That's a pretty hefty rad for one CPU so I don't know how much lower you could get. On the BIX 240 I get about 33-35c idle with an ambient of 24c and it loads around 40/41. Again, not overclocked.
I've tried fluid xp, Zalman G200, distilled, and G11/distilled and they are all within a degree or two of one other. I'm going to switch to MX-1 paste from the OCZ Ultra 5+ just as a test, but I do believe that Ultra 5+ is pretty good stuff as well from the tests I've seen on-line so I don't expect much of a change.
Finally finished with rearranging my setup.
Here is what it looks like now:
I haven't replied to the thread because I was busy reading what people recommended on this site and others as well. As you can see I finally setup everything the right way and I'm getting much lower temps. Right now everything is at stock and I'm using coretemp and I'm getting 27-28C idle and 31-32C load. Compared to before where I had everything backwards and was getting in the 40's idle. I'm still trying to work out the kinks here and there and I'm also trying to straighten out the tubes so as not to restrict water flow. Thanks to everyone who helped.
Here is what it looks like now:
I haven't replied to the thread because I was busy reading what people recommended on this site and others as well. As you can see I finally setup everything the right way and I'm getting much lower temps. Right now everything is at stock and I'm using coretemp and I'm getting 27-28C idle and 31-32C load. Compared to before where I had everything backwards and was getting in the 40's idle. I'm still trying to work out the kinks here and there and I'm also trying to straighten out the tubes so as not to restrict water flow. Thanks to everyone who helped.
That is the most commonly recommended way to do it and IMO the best way.
If you run from res directly to your pump it is the easiest way to get air out of your system and guarantees solid flow to your pump.
So going straight from the res to the pump then through the radiator to the cpu is the best way to setup a water cooling system?
i would go from res to the pump to the CPU then to the rest of the system. also in that picture it looks like you got a nice little kink in the res>radiator line. you should either shorten that hose up a tiny bit or put a few zip ties around it to clamp it open.
and those temps arent abnormal at all for a single 120mm radiator. especialy as we get into summer and ambient temps rise considerably. they are certainly nowhere near dangerous.
and those temps arent abnormal at all for a single 120mm radiator. especialy as we get into summer and ambient temps rise considerably. they are certainly nowhere near dangerous.
load temps are supposed to be the maximum you will ever see. if 50C is actualy your load temp, playing games or anything else stressful will never push temps above this point so there is no need to worry.
Just finished rearranging my setup and have it set up as res -> pump -> cpu -> radiator -> res
I'm testing it right now for leaks and so far haven't found any. I'll post pics later on but I'm glad the temps I was getting before weren't abnormal and yeah the summer heat would pretty much raise any computer's temps.
I'm testing it right now for leaks and so far haven't found any. I'll post pics later on but I'm glad the temps I was getting before weren't abnormal and yeah the summer heat would pretty much raise any computer's temps.