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Starcraft 2 Beta

you know what i wish? I wish we could hide this damn thread from everyone. it makes my feel depressed knowing that a ton of people are already playing it and having such a GOD DAMN GOOD TIME.

seriously. fuck you guys :)
 
Disciple Lan said:
you know what i wish? I wish we could hide this damn thread from everyone. it makes my feel depressed knowing that a ton of people are already playing it and having such a GOD DAMN GOOD TIME.

seriously. fuck you guys :)
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No need to feel left out, the game will be out very soon, what's another 5, 6 7 m o n t h s time waiting. And in the meantime there are plenty of real time strategy games that are already released, like Command and Conquer. And if you really have a starcraft itch, just play the original, it's only over a decade old, it'll be fine.


So cheer up!
 
refraxion said:
Yeah, I beat a protoss player that canon rushed me.. Blistering sands, I was at the 2 o clock position. He started building from the inside of the rock area (Backend) and built inward. I ran off with some scv's built a command center somewhere else. Waited till he started building in more and more.. lifted my orbital command and flew it off while I had units pumping and rushing his base.

He couldn't defend that attack and all he had were canons. He wouldn't say anything and waited for me to take out everything before he left. I made siege tanks, rofl.
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I had a Protoss player do that against me when I played P before.

So I threw up a Forge and put a cannon up outside his range of cannons - meaning he had to stop and move his cannons around somewhere where I didn't have any.

Sure enough, his base was almost unguarded so I ran my Zealots past his choke and into his worker line to slow his mineral gathering down, while I cranked out an Immortal. One Immortal later, his 8 cannons in my base were dead and his economy was so screwed it was just mop up time.
 
I am really getting tired of Terran players turtling up and making nothing but siege tanks and banshees lol. They never expand so I can take over the whole map however games take forever if I do this. Currently working on a timing push with 2 immortals to keep those games short. If I do it right I can push and break the wall before they get too many banshees out.
 
whats the best way to counter zealot/stalker rush using terran? I can never keep up.
 
I think I'll be switching to zerg exclusively for a while then I'll go back to random.
 
I've hit around 100 APM average doing macro with Zerg, it helps me quite a bit with a lot of other races. Still there are some HUGE issues with my macro. You'll see me throw an infester out at the end of a battle when i could have won even more so, but I just out macroed this player in a gold division game.

http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/1237

I told the guy he sucked at the end, felt bad and apologized in a PM post game. He still didn't take it so well, but I want to apologize for that before hand. =/
 
Heh. I just got promoted to 1v1 plat! Though I lost my first game in there.. barely. I always have problems in mirror match games. I had harassed him so well during the beginning and was ahead economically but unit wise, I got owned :(.
 
I really suck, but I love it. I worry that i may need to upgrade my computer, when in 2v2 there are large battles i get pretty sluggish. what wil i do in 4v4?!?!?!
 
refraxion said:
Heh. I just got promoted to 1v1 plat! Though I lost my first game in there.. barely. I always have problems in mirror match games. I had harassed him so well during the beginning and was ahead economically but unit wise, I got owned :(.
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congrats, I see you're 15th too! Way to go pro.
 
Grats refraxion!

I just played a quick game vs decko and am getting really confused right after my initial push. I've been favoring ling/bling push then kinda see what he's going, but i have no concrete strategies. Need to do quite a bit of work in that respect.
 
Anyone wanna be really nice and spare an old guy a beta invite? :D
 
BDV said:
Anyone wanna be really nice and spare an old guy a beta invite? :D
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We'd give out invites if we had them, there's pretty much none left at this point. There's another thread based solely on this topic if you're interested in checking it out.
 
I managed to get invited on my BNet account.

Just as a heads up my WoW account has been inactive for about 2 years so it didn't really matter.
 
What are people's thoughts on Mutalisks? I've been owned many times by them as Terran. Ive tried going all in on Vikings, leaving hardly nothing in terms of offense (vikings in ground mode get owned fairly quickly). I've tried Thors, but they are way too slow. Marines also arent as strong against Mutas as they were in SC1. By the time I get my units over to the Mutas, they just run away... Way too fast of movement speed! Anything I'm missing?
 
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What are people's thoughts on Mutalisks? I've been owned many times by them as Terran. Ive tried going all in on Vikings, leaving hardly nothing in terms of offense (vikings in ground mode get owned fairly quickly). I've tried Thors, but they are way too slow. Marines also arent as strong against Mutas as they were in SC1. By the time I get my units over to the Mutas, they just run away... Way too fast of movement speed! Anything I'm missing?
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Thors, they own mutalisks hands down.
 
refraxion said:
Thors, they own mutalisks hands down.
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Not before the Mutalisks just fly away. I had a good amount of Thors on Kuklas Ravine, and the Mutalisks just flew away and attacked on the other side of my base before the Thors could kill many. Splitting up the Thors woulda just killed them. They also had 1/1 upgrades. I guess I'll try it again. :(
 
NoNRG said:
What are people's thoughts on Mutalisks? I've been owned many times by them as Terran. Ive tried going all in on Vikings, leaving hardly nothing in terms of offense (vikings in ground mode get owned fairly quickly). I've tried Thors, but they are way too slow. Marines also arent as strong against Mutas as they were in SC1. By the time I get my units over to the Mutas, they just run away... Way too fast of movement speed! Anything I'm missing?
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Muta balls are devastating, when enough are massed they tear through capital ships like carriers or the toddler-ship like the hulls were made of tissue. They are very fast and can dart in and destroy targets with ease when focussed.

If you are terran a battlecruiser fleet will send them flying away, that or mass marines, but they they would just move and if they are too many those too will die.

Best counter is battle cruisers in numbers.


For protoss, learn to micro the templars better, and pop a psi storm, sucks the extra micro is needed but there it is.

Protoss has NO effective aerial counter to muta balls.
 
I only ever get hit with a ball of mutas on Fortress. Any other map as soon as I see the spire I attack, even if all you do it take out the spire. usually pretty weak defenses so they don't get too far.

Later on I just a put a few bunkers + turrets around your workers, then just attack his base. The more you focus on the harassment, the longer he keep you in your base and masses up. He'll fly back to his base as soon as the alert sounds. Your thors can clean them up there.
 
TomGreen321 said:
I only ever get hit with a ball of mutas on Fortress. Any other map as soon as I see the spire I attack, even if all you do it take out the spire. usually pretty weak defenses so they don't get too far.

Later on I just a put a few bunkers + turrets around your workers, then just attack his base. The more you focus on the harassment, the longer he keep you in your base and masses up. He'll fly back to his base as soon as the alert sounds. Your thors can clean them up there.
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Fortress is a 2v2 map, so are you playing a custom game or 2v2 with muta balls?

I think he was referring to 1v1.. which is much different.
 
I just got a bet key from the facebook page giveaways. Sooooo, now then. I'm reinstalling the game to get rid of the ai crap. I'm ready for my face to get smashed now :)
 
Out of the past 3-4 games I have crashed about 10-15 minutes in...
 
I will be on in an hour or two for anyone who is interested in 1v1s. Gold or Plat league welcome! I need as much practice as possible.
 
Ok, super excited to do my placement matches now. Before I begin however, what kind of impact does the skill level you choose for the matches? New player, experienced, veteran.

I kind of want to choose experienced, I used to play SC (non competetively) with a friend throughout middle and high school, then played a tiny bit of warcraft 3. But it's been awhile since I've regularly played an RTS. Demigod would be the only thing in recent times. So new player or experienced?
 
Nothin wrong with going new player. Practice maps have rocks in the way so you won't get 4minute rush losses.

And it's beta, who cares about stats, just play play play!
 
Yeah I just chose new player. Lost my first practice match then won the next. Skipped right to the placement and won my first one. Haven't done any more yet.
 
Samson4EiT said:
Yeah I just chose new player. Lost my first practice match then won the next. Skipped right to the placement and won my first one. Haven't done any more yet.
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Don't worry about winning/losing at all yet, other than a way to gauge how effective build orders/strategies are. Just play lots like others have said and have a good time :)
 
kencheeto said:
Don't worry about winning/losing at all yet, other than a way to gauge how effective build orders/strategies are. Just play lots like others have said and have a good time :)
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Yeah exactly. After I got promoted to platinum, I've been losing a hell of a lot. It really shows me how much I need to work on my strategies and game plan. Need to build more! That always helps! lol.

I figure this, get the losses out of the way now, and hope you're better by retail.
 
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Well guess I wont be playing in the early mornings anymore, couldn't find an ally to save my life.
 
refraxion said:
Fortress is a 2v2 map, so are you playing a custom game or 2v2 with muta balls?

I think he was referring to 1v1.. which is much different.
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My point was the only time I allow a ball of mutas to hit would be that map because it's mainly macro.

1vs1 like I said if he has the spire put the pressure on him, so that he has to bring the mutas to you. He can't just fly away if his base is being destroyed.

As Terran it would be pretty easy to keep an eye out for mutas since you do have the option to scan.

Reapers + Hellion drops at the worker lines will rape his ability to make mass mutas as well and allow you to expand.

Edit- Getting a few Ravens helps too. If you engage him and force the mutas to your army, having a rave or to sneek up behind with some heat seekers will completely ruin him. They are super effective, and even him just seeing them can change his tactics.
 
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Ok I am trying to this figure out I am a Copper player and my last 10 matches have all been against 3 Bronze, 5 Silver and 2 Gold ranking players. (Not in that particular order) Some of these players are higher ranked too (Sub 30's). I have won most of em too lol...

Anyone else check out their opponents ranks after matches? I think you will be surprised.
 
Jutsu said:
Ok I am trying to this figure out I am a Copper player and my last 10 matches have all been against 3 Bronze, 5 Silver and 2 Gold ranking players. (Not in that particular order) Some of these players are higher ranked too (Sub 30's). I have won most of em too lol...

Anyone else check out their opponents ranks after matches? I think you will be surprised.
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Yeah, ranking system is bogus lots of the time. This is primarily because

1. they put speed of matchmaking over quality
2. placement matches are all played at the same time right after reset, fairly random placements as a result since tiers haven't been established.

Still, playing at your actual level is much better than getting crushed every game or getting away with too much.
 
kencheeto said:
Yeah, ranking system is bogus lots of the time. This is primarily because

1. they put speed of matchmaking over quality
2. placement matches are all played at the same time right after reset, fairly random placements as a result since tiers haven't been established.

Still, playing at your actual level is much better than getting crushed every game or getting away with too much.
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I'm getting crushed in plat.. did very well in gold though ahha.
 
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