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GJSNeptune
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He probably uses a computer mic to record his stereo.
I don't find anything rediculious about using only one speaker.
Look, my desk is all of 4ft wide, so factoring in the 14" width of the two speakers, that means that they'll be, at the most, 3-1/2' apart. Considering this you can see how it isn't really possible for me to set up an ideal "sound stage" for these speakers without making some changes to the room. I don't feel like changing the room.
We should all note how important speaker placement (the making of the sound stage) is with regards to sound quality. You may have the best speakers, but if you don't set them up properly they won't sound good.
Take this for example:
Notice how close together those two speakers are. Is it really silly to suggest that the two channels here (left and right) are blending together a little bit due to their being placed so close to one another?
My point in going into all of this is to say that I don't think it make sense to just buy "good" speakers without considering how they will be used. In making a recomendation the enviroment in which the speaker will be used should be considered.
Look, my desk is all of 4ft wide, so factoring in the 14" width of the two speakers, that means that they'll be, at the most, 3-1/2' apart. Considering this you can see how it isn't really possible for me to set up an ideal "sound stage" for these speakers without making some changes to the room. I don't feel like changing the room.
We should all note how important speaker placement (the making of the sound stage) is with regards to sound quality. You may have the best speakers, but if you don't set them up properly they won't sound good.
Take this for example:
Notice how close together those two speakers are. Is it really silly to suggest that the two channels here (left and right) are blending together a little bit due to their being placed so close to one another?
My point in going into all of this is to say that I don't think it make sense to just buy "good" speakers without considering how they will be used. In making a recomendation the enviroment in which the speaker will be used should be considered.
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Which implies you don't care about sound quality, ergo this thread is useless.
Does that make sense?
Hehe... to each their own.
If you are serious about "one" speaker and don't much care for price or quality (but just want to upgrade from OEM tin-box speakers) and don't much care for loudspeaker-looking speakers, then I would suggest you consider purchasing a single "center channel" speaker. They are usually lower profile and horizontal - allowing you to stick it underneath your monitor or such.
Please don't flame this reply, as I'm just trying to offer unconventional advice to the unusual request. Perhaps this user is going [H]ardcore in a unique and creative way and we should at least let the situation play out so that we can see what novel solution he/she arrives at.
If you are serious about "one" speaker and don't much care for price or quality (but just want to upgrade from OEM tin-box speakers) and don't much care for loudspeaker-looking speakers, then I would suggest you consider purchasing a single "center channel" speaker. They are usually lower profile and horizontal - allowing you to stick it underneath your monitor or such.
Please don't flame this reply, as I'm just trying to offer unconventional advice to the unusual request. Perhaps this user is going [H]ardcore in a unique and creative way and we should at least let the situation play out so that we can see what novel solution he/she arrives at.
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Good advice Rosss. Now I just need to find a center channel speaker...
Nice man, this is the way he should of said it. Not like he did. It just sounded like he didn't give a damn, and that's what got everyone upset.
Getting back to topic, he has not started his budget yet. However, here are several cheap alternatives for that he wants. I have not heard them, but they are cheap and from reputable companies.
$50~$120
tSc RC1
Polk Audio CSM
Polk Audio CS2
Energy CC-50
Energy CC-100
Infinity Beta C250
Infinity Primus PC250
Not sure how you gonna power those up tho', but maybe there is ways. I personally have never seen a powered center channel, since they are normally connected to receivers.
Yeah it would be nice to see something with a build-in amplifier... As the swan's have.
That's really my next question, since I've never seen a center-channel computer speaker with a build in amplifier. What are the options for powering one?
Except, of course, those speakers are built to be put that close together and still provide the correct soundstage.
And no, being in possession of those speakers, running out of my laptop (integrated audio, intel - things you need to know), they sound phenomenally better than my roommates cheap 15 dollar set, as tested by both him and me out of my laptop using the same song at different encode levels - FLAC, MP3 VBR V0 and MP3 128kbps.
Perhaps one will have to be built.
Best use of 2 different sized cake boxes imo. As far as speaker concerns, just like a previous poster said, get one center channel, and like idk stick tape it to your monitor, heck i got logitech x540's for my gf a while back and it has an option to go on top of a flat panel or old school monitor. That'll save space.
Sure, right here: http://www.parts-express.com/speaker-building.cfm
However, that's gonna cost you tons more than buying something already made, and I can't comment of the quality of the outcome either.
Something tells me he doesn't care much about the quality. Dunno what, but I get that hunch.
If I can find quality components I'm sure the quality of the speaker system over all will be quite good.
I'm not worried about the cabinets as I know how to make them.
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Speaker system?
You seem to be willing to go through a lot of trouble for being apathetic to sound quality.
You seem to be willing to go through a lot of trouble for being apathetic to sound quality.
Am I apathetic towards sound quality?
You want to listen to music, and you are looking to buy a center channel speaker to do so. Not only is that ridiculous, it IS apathetic towards sound quality.
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You're sacrificing sound quality because you don't have the room on your desk, but you're willing to build your own "system" that won't even be stereo. You clearly don't care about music, though you can deny it all you want.
This isn't related to the topic of this thread. Please try not to discuss off-topic subjects in this thread.
Do you have any evidence/arguments for this view? If so I'd be interested in hearing them.
I'd like to hear of some cases where someone is interested in listening to music but a home theater center channel speaker is recommended to them instead. O... there hasn't been any because that is just asinine.
And why a set of stereo speakers isn't good enough like it is to the rest of the music listening population.
This thread is just one huge facepalm.
And why a set of stereo speakers isn't good enough like it is to the rest of the music listening population.
This thread is just one huge facepalm.
I remind you that things such as hearing, seeing, tasting, feeling, etc., are subjective. I don't know what it's like to be you while you listen to your two speakers in stereo, nor do you know what it's like to be me while I listen to something in mono.
Would you please just accept that I want mono. It's just personal preference.
That's like wanting to watch TV with only one eye. Anyway why not just go to your nearest store that sells speakers, get the cheapest ones there, set the sound on your comp to mono, and if you want cut one speaker off of the cord and pitch it in the trash.
+This.
Also, why not get a small stereo system and just tape it together. Yes, just tape it together. I can assure you that will probably sound better, but also, is gonna be the same size of a center channel since is gonna be together. Problem solved.
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This thread is ridiculous. You title your thread Speakers, but then you change your mind because your desk is too small for bookshelf speakers. Instead you decide first to build your own single channel speaker for mono output, then scrap that to get a center channel speaker.
And now you're willing to overpay for a Bose 2.0 system. When will the insanity stop?
And now you're willing to overpay for a Bose 2.0 system. When will the insanity stop?
Hey, there's a lot of threads on this forum much more insane than this one.
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May I have some advice, please?
I currently have two Sony SS-U311 connected to my fairly outdated Yamaha R-V901. I'd like to keep the speakers, but I'd like to find a new receiver. Any suggestions? What other additional hardware would you suggest I look into?
I currently have two Sony SS-U311 connected to my fairly outdated Yamaha R-V901. I'd like to keep the speakers, but I'd like to find a new receiver. Any suggestions? What other additional hardware would you suggest I look into?
A receiver is all you need. I would start a new thread.
@Odin75,
Yeah, I know. I mean, if you follow his posts, he seems to like to ask (at the very least) difficult questions that seem pretty outlandish. Depending on your definition of "trolling", it either is based off that or not. If you ask me, he likes seeing the kinds of answers he can get from a group of obviously knowledgeable people who just never think that way.
I mean, jhstuckey, bravo for approaching things the way you do, but no matter what in this case, you're dealing with a subjective topic and seem to want a factual answer. You won't get it, and getting upset with people for providing you with subjective responses isn't too wise overall.
Having said that, I wouldn't know how to answer you myself, though I am curious about why you'd want to get a different set of speakers if you listen to a stereo in another location for enjoyment and do not use your computer to the same end. So is this just an attempt at getting some kind of answer?
Yeah, I know. I mean, if you follow his posts, he seems to like to ask (at the very least) difficult questions that seem pretty outlandish. Depending on your definition of "trolling", it either is based off that or not. If you ask me, he likes seeing the kinds of answers he can get from a group of obviously knowledgeable people who just never think that way.
I mean, jhstuckey, bravo for approaching things the way you do, but no matter what in this case, you're dealing with a subjective topic and seem to want a factual answer. You won't get it, and getting upset with people for providing you with subjective responses isn't too wise overall.
Having said that, I wouldn't know how to answer you myself, though I am curious about why you'd want to get a different set of speakers if you listen to a stereo in another location for enjoyment and do not use your computer to the same end. So is this just an attempt at getting some kind of answer?
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I don't find anything rediculious about using only one speaker.
Look, my desk is all of 4ft wide, so factoring in the 14" width of the two speakers, that means that they'll be, at the most, 3-1/2' apart. Considering this you can see how it isn't really possible for me to set up an ideal "sound stage" for these speakers without making some changes to the room. I don't feel like changing the room.
We should all note how important speaker placement (the making of the sound stage) is with regards to sound quality. You may have the best speakers, but if you don't set them up properly they won't sound good.
Take this for example:
Notice how close together those two speakers are. Is it really silly to suggest that the two channels here (left and right) are blending together a little bit due to their being placed so close to one another?
My point in going into all of this is to say that I don't think it make sense to just buy "good" speakers without considering how they will be used. In making a recomendation the enviroment in which the speaker will be used should be considered.
I like how you used my post. Not only did you denigrate all stereo speakers, but you ALSO insinuated that I have no clue how to setup a speaker system. I'd say nice troll, but I am not amused.
FACT: my AV 40s have excellent stereo imaging even at that short distance; as has already been made clear, these compact monitors are DESIGNED for such a small sound stage. They sound different when you move away from the computer (now approximately a point-source), but they still sound good.
I think you're nuts to insist on a point-source-only setup for your audio needs. I mean, if your desk is even smaller than mine I can understand, but you should really try to work around that limitation. You really need larger speakers to get a good sound experience.
Whatever you do, don't settle for some shitty $400 2.0 setup with 2" woofers.
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