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Scientist Create Room Temperature Ice

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Room temperature ice? The next thing you are going to tell me is that sex boosts brain growth! Whatever.

Researchers at Spain's Centre d'Investigació en Nanociència i Nanotecnologia (CIN2) have studied the underlying mechanisms of water condensation in the troposphere and found a way to make artificial materials to control water condensation and trigger ice formation at room temperature.
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Congrats CIN2 researchers you might have figured out one of two things how to make my ice tea room temp even though there is ice in it, or two a way to prevent global flooding and Al Gore would be proud of you.
 
Check out the comments section on that brain growth article. If there was any doubt puritanism was alive and well in America, there's your proof.
 
Seems to me the reason why ice is useful, is because its' cold, not because water is in a solid form.
 
I personally laughed at this little bit in the article:

The research team chose to study barium fluoride (BaF2), a naturally occurring mineral, also known as "Frankdicksonite," as an option.

That made me lol.
 
If I'm reading the article right, then under the conditions they presented, room temp. ice should never melt below a certain temp.
 
If I'm reading the article right, they haven't actually made room temperature ice. Only enhanced its condensation so far.
 
commercial application: put a wafer of this stuff in the bottom of a glass, add liquid (soda, tea...water) the BaF2 reacts with the liquid and forms ice, the ice is normal every day frozen water do to a chemical reaction, and in 15 years you grow a third arm because like usual, they didn't research what effects it will have before they released it into the ecosystem. How ever, you may take on a glow in the presence of UV light... wait.. i'm white and pasty.. i glow in the sun enough as it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium_fluoride
 
Room temperature ice... meh, Brain cells increasing due to sex... win. For all you married guys who have wives that use sex as a weapon, this is your response: "Honey, without sex, I cannot improve myself. That means I won't be able to make more money or become a better person. So, your mood all aside, I am looking out for our family's future."
 
they have created ice 9?
I need to find a nice hill top with a good view of the sky...
 
So noone sees the impolications of this? Everyone knows that if you want to murder someone with an untracable weapon, with no fingerprints you stab them with an icicle. Now the police are going to leave the icicles everywhere, people are going to stab each other, BUT the icicles wont melt! 100% conviction.
Also ice sculptures.
 
Methadras said:
I personally laughed at this little bit in the article:

The research team chose to study barium fluoride (BaF2), a naturally occurring mineral, also known as "Frankdicksonite," as an option.

That made me lol.
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yeah makes you wonder if people actually think before they name something they find invent.. but also makes you wonder when frankdicksonite was discovered since most of the random ass name stuff was developed way before the word "dick" became a slang word.. but still funny as hell..
 
DeathPrincess said:
So noone sees the impolications of this? Everyone knows that if you want to murder someone with an untracable weapon, with no fingerprints you stab them with an icicle. Now the police are going to leave the icicles everywhere, people are going to stab each other, BUT the icicles wont melt! 100% conviction.
Also ice sculptures.
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Who would use icicles ready by the police.... when they could just make their own?
 
EngrChris said:
This reminds me of Pykrete.
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My first thought, as well:
QI: Fire & Freezing: Pykrete

adonn78 said:
And what is the purpose of this room temperature ice?
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RTFA:
Described in the Journal of Chemical Physics, which is published by the American Institute of Physics, their work may lead to new additives for snowmaking, improved freezer systems, or new coatings that help grow ice for skating rinks.
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I doubt we'll be skiing in the Summer or looking at year-round ice sculptures, but these room temperature ice crystal will seed ice formation. This should allow us to ski and skate earlier in the season (and later) on more consistent surfaces.

If blocks of room temp ice is really possible, it might make shipping water to remote locations easier.

I wonder if shooting these crystals into clouds would promote rain production, or whether it would make hail.
 
This could actually be usefull. the Icecaps are melting. just mass produce this stuff and it would change the melting temperature of the ice. No more melting :D
 
srangara said:
My first thought, as well:
QI: Fire & Freezing: Pykrete


RTFA:


I doubt we'll be skiing in the Summer or looking at year-round ice sculptures, but these room temperature ice crystal will seed ice formation. This should allow us to ski and skate earlier in the season (and later) on more consistent surfaces.

If blocks of room temp ice is really possible, it might make shipping water to remote locations easier.

I wonder if shooting these crystals into clouds would promote rain production, or whether it would make hail.
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Finally, someone with some actual substance to add to this thread. Thank you.
 
Negative Decibel said:
i still don't understand the practical application for this...
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Well, if you can ignore the global warming slant, there's some good information here:
http://cses.washington.edu/cig/res/sd/cciskiareas.shtml

Emphasis mine:
Increasingly ski areas are turning to artificial snow-making in an effort to increase skier days and hence profitability. Depending on the location of the ski area, artificial snow-making may not be economically viable. Snow-making requires large amounts of water; it takes 139,322 gallons of water to make an acre-foot of snow. The amount of machine made snow needed is, of course, based on the topography of the ski hill and rate of melt. A ‘typical’ ski run of 200 feet wide with a drop of 1,500 feet would take three acre feet of water (55 tanker truck loads) to make one foot of snow.

A review of ski areas across the nation indicates that capital costs for snow-making vary between $10,000 and $20,000 per acre to be covered. In addition, maintenance costs can be as much as 25% of the resort’s total operating costs.
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If companies can make money designing snow making machines, there's a market for tech to make the process faster and longer lasting with less materials.
 
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