sandy bridge vs 980x

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how much better do you think the top sandy bridge processor the 2600k i think it is vs a 980x i7 system would be on PPD

 

[Zink]

when both are overclocked i think sandy will be 20% faster than current quads.

 

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when both are overclocked i think sandy will be 20% faster than current quads.

well the 980x is a hexcore

 

[jeremyshaw]

well the 980x is a hexcore

On Intel's roadmap, i7970/i7980 will still stay the "top end" over Sandy Bridge until unnamed LGA2011 processors come into play.
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On Intel's roadmap, i7970/i7980 will still stay the "top end" over Sandy Bridge until unnamed LGA2011 processors come into play.
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was just reading this.

 

[lehmann]

there will be 990 and 995 comming too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_microprocessors

 

[sirmonkey1985]

how much better do you think the top sandy bridge processor the 2600k i think it is vs a 980x i7 system would be on PPD

the 980x will still be top dog with the triple channel DDR3. it will make up for the clock difference on the LGA 1155 sandy bridges which will be bottlenecked by duel channel ram(in F@H).

LGA 2011 is the next socket to wait for coming out in mid to late Q2 of 2011. it's rumored to have quad channel DDR3.

there will be 990 and 995 comming too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_microprocessors

yep but they are just overclocked 980x's. the 990 has already been out.

 

[The_Heretic]

Maybe it would be faster than the 980x if they'd just sweep the sand off that damn bridge.

 

[jebo_4jc]

Haha.

I'm a bit confused by Intel's strategy here. Releasing the low end and mid range first? I thought the high end drove the market.
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[Nightbird]

Haha.

I'm a bit confused by Intel's strategy here. Releasing the low end and mid range first? I thought the high end drove the market.
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AMD has been encroaching on their low and mid range, so they could be doing this strategically to boost their mid range over AMD's current high-end and have something left over to crush Bulldozer, AMD's new high-end, the instant it comes out. They have no reason to release 2011 before then because the i7 970 and above are untouchable, so their prices and margins are secure.

It could also be because they wanted to approach the new architecture that is Sandy-Bridge cautiously, and produce small chips first rather than risk doing what Nvidia did with the first Fermi. AMD also plays in here as a lack of pressure from their lineup.

Could be both, or neither, all guess work

 

[APOLLO]

I'm a bit confused by Intel's strategy here. Releasing the low end and mid range first? I thought the high end drove the market.

It could be as simple as LGA 2011 not being ready for prime time yet, and/or Intel wants their new bread and butter parts out first while the current high end S1366 offerings are still profitable and selling well.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

Haha.

I'm a bit confused by Intel's strategy here. Releasing the low end and mid range first? I thought the high end drove the market.
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no low end drives the majority of the market. its where the real money is at. especially if they can stay in the OEM market. thats where the big money is for them. the lga-1366 high end market only did well because AMD had no competition for them. so what AMD did was fill in the low end market where the money is at cutting the legs out from under Intel so Intel's had to fight back for the low/mid range market. the Sandy Bridge with the onboard video will win them the OEM market for sure which is what they wanted. the other thing is they may half released the LGA-1155's first because the production cost is so much lower then the lga-2011 processors. either way it makes complete sense at a market stand point for releasing the LGA-1155's first.

It could be as simple as LGA 2011 not being ready for prime time yet, and/or Intel wants their new bread and butter parts out first while the current high end S1366 offerings are still profitable and selling well.

I'll have to agree. Intel doesnt have a quad channel DDR3 board. so they are starting from scratch. AMD has had a quad channel DDR3 motherboard for almost 6 months now. Only problem is AMD isnt releasing the G34 socket to the consumer market til probably 2012. so its not really a competition factor for Intel.

 

[jebo_4jc]

The low end sells more volume but the high end stuff has vastly more margin.
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[sirmonkey1985]

The low end sells more volume but the high end stuff has vastly more margin.
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volume is a big deal to stock holders. the more they can control the market the better. but even with the high profit margin per high end processor sold. the volume profit of the low end still trumps the high end profit margin.

 

[APOLLO]

The low end sells more volume but the high end stuff has vastly more margin.

Sirmonkey is right. The low end is where the big money is made in terms of total earnings compared to the workstation/enterprise market. It's more volume returns than profit margin for a given product. That's why AMD has largely stayed afloat (along with their video division) all these years despite their eroding high-end market share, IIRC. Intel owns the workstation market (introductory to mid-range dual-socket offerings), so where the real advances can be made is in the low-mid range consumer market (desktop and mobile) where the competition is much more intense. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in this rather brief market analysis.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

yup your right about the workstation market. AMD owns the quad/octo-core workstation market and intel wont really ever compete with it. but its a tiny tiny market even though a single octo-core system could net 20k+ per system.

the very low end and mobile markets going to get very interesting here in a month or so. high end market will as well with the bulldozer. going to be a fun 2011 in the computing market. thats for sure.