Sandy Bridge Pricing Leak?

tony-kun said:
New product launches require lots of coordination with retail partners and with product marketing. For instance, they need to give their motherboard partners enough time to prepare their products.
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Since mobo's have been ready for months, its more likely old inventory and product marketing thats the hold-up.

And/or high volume production for 32nm in the X-th fab, This will shift all the flagship hex quad and dual core production to 32nm. It needs to be perfect, in volume, and with good yields before launch. Clarkdale/Arrandale is small, gulftown is high-ASP. The mainstream segments have to be profitable.
 
not sure why people think it will be well priced compared to previous gen.

I got my 775socket asus p5wdh deluxe for £110, a deluxe model.
I got my 1156socket asus p7p55d-e for £129, a basic model, deluxe version of the board was £190
I got my i5 750 for £140
I got my core2duoo 6420 for £120

These were what I paid for new and at the time current gen hardware approaching next gen.
Predicted prices on review sites are 95% of the time wrong been too low.
 
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I like to get 2500K but need to see the benchmark chart first before I jump into new P67 chipset.
 
Guys, if we all buy 2500Ks, that whole supply/demand thing is gonna screw us. Some of you need to take one for the team and buy the less ideal offerings. Deal?
 
Azymn said:
Guys, if we all buy 2500Ks, that whole supply/demand thing is gonna screw us. Some of you need to take one for the team and buy the less ideal offerings. Deal?
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I'm tossing around the idea of the 2600K. Going to keep a close eye on benchmarks.

My make/break point for it is probably $300. If it comes in over that, I'll hit the 2500K, otherwise I'll get the 2600K.
 
Azymn said:
Guys, if we all buy 2500Ks, that whole supply/demand thing is gonna screw us. Some of you need to take one for the team and buy the less ideal offerings. Deal?
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Considering Intel's 32nm capacity at the moment and SB ramp, if all the enthusiasts in the world will buy only 2500/2600ks, Intel won't break a sweat.
 
savantu said:
Considering Intel's 32nm capacity at the moment and SB ramp, if all the enthusiasts in the world will buy only 2500/2600ks, Intel won't break a sweat.
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Depends how many 2500s they make and how many 2500Ks - the K being the key part of that.
 
Forceman said:
Depends how many 2500s they make and how many 2500Ks - the K being the key part of that.
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The short answer is as many as they want.

The 32nm process is at full maturity now, SB ramp has been going on for a few months and given that the volume ramp has been accelerated that means yields are at a comfortable level. The K or non K part is simply a fuse on the CPU which Intel can enable or disable at will.
 
Forceman said:
Depends how many 2500s they make and how many 2500Ks - the K being the key part of that.
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savantu said:
The short answer is as many as they want....The K or non K part is simply a fuse on the CPU which Intel can enable or disable at will.
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This is a key point to remember. K parts don't guarantee anything besides the ability to adjust the multi. Intel makes no guarantee about how high you can adjust it and remain stable.
 
savantu said:
The short answer is as many as they want.

The 32nm process is at full maturity now, SB ramp has been going on for a few months and given that the volume ramp has been accelerated that means yields are at a comfortable level. The K or non K part is simply a fuse on the CPU which Intel can enable or disable at will.
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Which was my point - availability is more on how Intel decides to divide the pie, not so much on the size of the pie itself.
 
Does anyone know what heatsink mounting will be like? Will LGA1155 have the same mounting holes as LGA1156?
 
wow those are cheap.

the q6600 i bought before cost like 900 dollars when it was first out
 
xBanzai89 said:
You bough it for that much??
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As I recall the QX6700 was the first quad, and the Q6600 (released later) was the second (and cheaper). Release price on the Q6600 was $900, and it dropped from there. Many people bought them at that price.
The cheapest launch i7 was the 920 at $287, the sandy i7-2400 is the cheapest launch price Intel quad yet.
 
If I get 1155, it'll be the 2600K because hyperthreading helps a lot in folding. Rest of you folders cough up an additional 100$, this is a command! :D
 
^ Yep, I've been folding for just over a day and I can already see it is turning out to be an expensive hobby. I wonder how many ppd these are gonna churn out?
 
there going to have tons of these at launch... I wouldn't worry about supply issues. Newegg is probably already sitting on a pile of them now waiting for the launch date. Seems like everything's been in place for this launch for a while now actually, with motherboards having been leaked to us 6 months ago already. They are probably launching it after christmas on purpose, hoping people will upgrade using their old tech then they go launch the new stuff a week or two later.

I'm not a folder, but from my understanding video cards and PS3s handily beat even the latest processors in PPD.
 
stockwiz said:
there going to have tons of these at launch... I wouldn't worry about supply issues. Newegg is probably already sitting on a pile of them now waiting for the launch date. Seems like everything's been in place for this launch for a while now actually, with motherboards having been leaked to us 6 months ago already. They are probably launching it after christmas on purpose, hoping people will upgrade using their old tech then they go launch the new stuff a week or two later.

I'm not a folder, but from my understanding video cards and PS3s handily beat even the latest processors in PPD.
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Anything helps, but yes any Nvidia GPU will far out do this CPU in folding.
 
Yeah, Hyperthreading is only useful depending on what you're doing. I know I get better gaming performance with HT turned off.

Also, i7s right now are $199 or at least thats what my friend just paid from microcenter for his new 950. And the 930 and 920s have also been $199 several months before the 950 price drop.

The new 2xxx i5s and i7s should be a nice 15-20% improvement and that seems about right for the price difference.
 
A core i7 920 at ~4GHz will do around 32,000 ppd (that's a rough estimate based on my own PC) on bigadv work units. These Sandy Bridge processors should do at least as much, and more I'd hope (the only downside to them is less memory bandwidth due to dual channel memory, but they should overclock at least as well and should be faster clock-for-clock too). 30,000+ ppd is more than any single GPU will produce. Even on SMP work units it should do at least, say, 18,000 ppd. Say what you like about the way bonus points are allocated at the moment but as things stand good CPUs are more efficient in terms of folding ppd than any GPU.

(In terms of whether it is "right" that these CPU work units should be worth so many points, well, that's a big argument right there! Personally as a CPU-only folder I feel I've got it too good and the points I am accruing exaggerate my true contibution)
 
Are these sandybridge chips faster than the i7 9** cpu's ? and is it worth upgrading to one if you have a i7 930 cpu already ?
 
GLSauron said:
As I recall the QX6700 was the first quad, and the Q6600 (released later) was the second (and cheaper). Release price on the Q6600 was $900, and it dropped from there. Many people bought them at that price.
The cheapest launch i7 was the 920 at $287, the sandy i7-2400 is the cheapest launch price Intel quad yet.
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correct. Ya quad core was expensive back than. It is amazing how much new cpu price is now.
 
EVIL-SCOTSMAN said:
Are these sandybridge chips faster than the i7 9** cpu's ? and is it worth upgrading to one if you have a i7 930 cpu already ?
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Well they should be as they are an architecture update and a die shrink to 32nm. However nobody really knows exactly how much faster clock-for-clock they will be. Best guesses are 20% on average though it depends what types of applications.

I would say it's not worth an upgrade if you already have a 9xx i7 (especially because it's a whole new socket so you need a new MB too). Especially if you overclock your i7 9xx to 4+Ghz already.
 
Got my eye on a 2600K. My E6600 Conroe has served well for 4 years, I expect the same out of Sandy Bridge. Finally ran into a game (Black Ops) that is eating my CPU, so I suppose I could upgrade...
 
Ugh if microcenter offers these things for too cheap i might be forced to sell my i7-920, MB, and Ram so i can upgrade, which is not necessary at all. It would be nice to have the system run a little cooler and faster while using less power though...
 
When? When When?

When are these coming out?

Q1 2011 is a vague date!
 
Sandybridge i7 2600 will be faster than i7 9XX series. However, people who already have an i7/i5 atm should not bother upgrading. I am already reading some posts of people who would want to upgrade nevertheless. Spend your money on something else.
 
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