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Sandy Bridge & 6-core processor

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Curious if anyone is going to upgrade to this processor? By the way anyone knows which 6- core processor can be used on 1366 MB?
 
To the best of my knowledge, it will be half a year before the socket 2011 Sandy-Bridge processors with greater than 4 cores come out. What is coming out in January are the socket 1155 Sandy-Bridge processors with 2 or 4 cores.

No Sandy-Bridge processors may be used on a socket 1366 motherboard.
 
Many people are going to upgrade to Sandy, most of the people from this site who are going to upgrade are going to move to the i5-2500K (myself included).

As for hex cores, I only know of the i7-970 and i7-980X (and the new top of the line i7-995X), any of which should work great on almost any s1366 board. s2011 will have hex and maybe octo cores, but again that is not until Q3/Q4.

There are no known hex cores for s1156 or s1155, just the server based s1366 and s2011.
 
GLSauron said:
Many people are going to upgrade to Sandy, most of the people from this site who are going to upgrade are going to move to the i5-2500K (myself included).
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Me too. Intel announced today that Jan 5th is the launch date. Can't wait.
 
If intel doesn't make one for the LGA1366 my next build will be AMD.
 
Ya in order to get 6 cores you will either have to purchase the current 980X or soon 995X or wait a whole year for socket 2011.
 
SonDa5 said:
If intel doesn't make one for the LGA1366 my next build will be AMD.
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so you will go from the land of superior performance to AMD because you're mad that your platform is EOL?
 
Hell all 3 of my closest friends (The guys that are like family to me) are still running C2D's. One is on a e8500, and the other two are running e6850's.
 
Mmhmm, except 1366 is barely two years old and was the top of the line socket. It was completely unnecessary to switch to a new socket for sandy bridge. What top of the line socket becomes obselete in two years? How long was 775 around? How does this not bother people.
 
wabbitseason said:
Mmhmm, except 1366 is barely two years old and was the top of the line socket. It was completely unnecessary to switch to a new socket for sandy bridge. What top of the line socket becomes obselete in two years? How long was 775 around? How does this not bother people.
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1366 is not going EOL until LGA 2011 comes out, which is late 2011, so it'll be more like 3 years. And Intel has a habit of changing sockets, so it's not like this is some kind of big sea change for them.
 
wabbitseason said:
Mmhmm, except 1366 is barely two years old and was the top of the line socket. It was completely unnecessary to switch to a new socket for sandy bridge. What top of the line socket becomes obselete in two years? How long was 775 around? How does this not bother people.
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s775 had like 5 different electrically incompatible versions, and s1366 will (arguably) still be the top socket post s1155 (until s2011 comes out). AFAIK you can't even put a first gen s775 P4 into a late s775 socket, it won't work.
s1155 and s2011 will be around through Ivy Bridge, but people need to be realistic that haswell will probably need new sockets too.
 
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buying a new mobo and cpu is worth it to me because intel keeps improving with each generation, you simply can't find a better cpu clock for clock.
 
gigatexal said:
buying a new mobo and cpu is worth it to me because intel keeps improving with each generation, you simply can't find a better cpu clock for clock.
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I agree. I've been building my own systems for quite a while and have never upgraded the CPU without upgrading the motherboard, it's just not worth it. Better to buy smart in the first place and overclock.
 
Just cause intel is changing a socket doesn't really mean the majority of us need to go run out and upgrade. Most things are GPU bound to a certain extent. Right now, You are going to be behind the curve fairly soon wether you buy AMD (Still no MB's to support Bulldozer yet) or Intel.

I am a little miffed at the socket being "1155", when we have the "1156" out there. I mean, make it 1200 or something lol.
 
Mosher said:
Just cause intel is changing a socket doesn't really mean the majority of us need to go run out and upgrade. Most things are GPU bound to a certain extent. Right now, You are going to be behind the curve fairly soon wether you buy AMD (Still no MB's to support Bulldozer yet) or Intel.

I am a little miffed at the socket being "1155", when we have the "1156" out there. I mean, make it 1200 or something lol.
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You might not know, but you're going to be able to use 1156 CPU coolers with the 1155, so at release there will already be a large selection of compatible CPU coolers to choose from.

So, you know, people will have one less thing to bitch about because there's a hardware change that requires, GASP, a new motherboard.
 
TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
You might not know, but you're going to be able to use 1156 CPU coolers with the 1155, so at release there will already be a large selection of compatible CPU coolers to choose from.
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Is that for sure, and across the board? I was wondering about 1155 availability.
 
Mosher said:
I am a little miffed at the socket being "1155", when we have the "1156" out there. I mean, make it 1200 or something lol.
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What does that matter when the CPU and "chipset" are married together as one platform? Won't be mixing up tech if the sockets are different, allows for specialized optimizations of pin duties and such. 1155 allows them to keep the same physical characteristics, why step up the size and complexity just for a marketing point? You'd just have people whining that they have to change heatsinks or mounting mechanisms. Sure is nice not having to deal with multiple levels of the same chipset tech anymore too.

I'd much rather have a socket change than put up with handicapped parts for interchangeability's sake, or have the forums clogged up with "will XX cpu work with YY board?" Just sayin'.
 
RickyJ said:
What does that matter when the CPU and "chipset" are married together as one platform? Won't be mixing up tech if the sockets are different, allows for specialized optimizations of pin duties and such. 1155 allows them to keep the same physical characteristics, why step up the size and complexity just for a marketing point? You'd just have people whining that they have to change heatsinks or mounting mechanisms. Sure is nice not having to deal with multiple levels of the same chipset tech anymore too.

I'd much rather have a socket change than put up with handicapped parts for interchangeability's sake, or have the forums clogged up with "will XX cpu work with YY board?" Just sayin'.
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Exactly. They kept 1155/1156 compatible on the HSF front.
 
SonDa5 said:
Going AMD doesn't look like a poor choice.
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Compared to what? You have no idea about what Bulldozer is going to bring to the table and Intel is clearly ahead right now.

You're complaining about having to move from LGA-1366 and saying you're going to jump to AMD. What the heck is AMD coming out with that will warrant you jumping to them instead of going to Sandy Bridge?

The answer: You don't know. You're just sour because you bought LGA-1366 and instead of being reasonable, you're threatening stupid, nonsensical things.

It's like if Chevy decides to go with a better engine in next years Camaro, so I sell mine and go with a Hyundai because it's cheaper and I was miffed that Chevy evolved and I didn't get included.

AMD looks exactly like a poor choice, based on the lack of any information on Bulldozer. If the signs aren't clear, AMD already is throwing in the towel pretty much and speaking about Bulldozer II.
 
TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
It's like if Chevy decides to go with a better engine in next years Camaro, so I sell mine and go with a Hyundai because it's cheaper and I was miffed that Chevy evolved and I didn't get included.
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Lol, that's probably the best automotive -> IT analogy i've heard, and i agree 100%. I don't think many knowledgeable people in the market to upgrade will be skipping Sandy Bridge/SBE and waiting for AMD's next gen. At least we know SB will be 10-20% faster than i7 clock for clock (not to mention amazing 5+ghz overclocking capability). What hard performance benchmarks do we have for Bulldozer atm? For all we know, core for core, clock for clock, it might not even out perform current i7s.
 
Mosher said:
Just cause intel is changing a socket doesn't really mean the majority of us need to go run out and upgrade. Most things are GPU bound to a certain extent. Right now, You are going to be behind the curve fairly soon wether you buy AMD (Still no MB's to support Bulldozer yet) or Intel.

I am a little miffed at the socket being "1155", when we have the "1156" out there. I mean, make it 1200 or something lol.
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LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge is supposed to be out Q3 2011. Nvidia should have Kepler ready to go then, that will be a die shrink and should allow for a major increase in GPU performance. I'm definitely going to upgrade then and give my current PC to family. I'm thinking I will go SLI/CF for that.
 
If you're going 1156, you're better off waiting a month for SB. It should have better price peformance. If you going 1366, and doing it for the right reasons (mainly more PCI bandwidth), go for it.

IronRuler said:
I tell people not to be afraid to go 1156 or 1366if you can get it for a good price.
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Wasn't the 1366 supposed to be the "future-proof" socket? Looks like I didn't get screwed over getting the 1156 XD
 
even with socket 2011, s1366 will not be obsolete. it will still be around for a while and will continue to perform amazing
 
Karndog said:
Lol, that's probably the best automotive -> IT analogy i've heard, and i agree 100%. I don't think many knowledgeable people in the market to upgrade will be skipping Sandy Bridge/SBE and waiting for AMD's next gen. At least we know SB will be 10-20% faster than i7 clock for clock (not to mention amazing 5+ghz overclocking capability). What hard performance benchmarks do we have for Bulldozer atm? For all we know, core for core, clock for clock, it might not even out perform current i7s.
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Agree 100%, and that's coming from an AMD chip owner myself. As what's been displayed on the web Sandy Bridge overclocks like a dream and there's nothing out what so ever on "Bulldozer" except speculation. AMD has to cover the ground of 2 intel generations now... i7 it's still behind with it's Phenom II and now Sandy Bridge. You want to know my speculation? Bulldozer is not going to live up to it's name. Period!
 
That depends on your definition of obsolete. After the 2011 comes out (in 2011), I doubt you'll see any new 1366 based processor. The same with the 1156 after the 1155 (one wonders why the didn't need that one pin). So from that standpoint, it will be obsolete.

However, from a software perspective, a 1366 (or 1156) platform processor will run any software we're likely to see come out for the wintel or x86 linux platform for several years.

audirs said:
even with socket 2011, s1366 will not be obsolete. it will still be around for a while and will continue to perform amazing
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TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
AMD looks exactly like a poor choice, based on the lack of any information on Bulldozer. If the signs aren't clear, AMD already is throwing in the towel pretty much and speaking about Bulldozer II.
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What is coming out is Bulldozer II essentially :) Bulldozer was initially planned on 45nm but they killed it to make improvements instead.

It's reasonable to assume that multi-threaded performance will be a lot better on the 4 module 8 core Bulldozer than the best socket 1155 Sandy-Bridge with 4 cores 8 threads, but single threaded performance will be worse for BD. It will trade blows with the 6 core 12 thread Socket 2011 Sandy-Bridge in multi-threaded performance, so I think both will be priced around 300$-350$ (similar to Turban and i7 920 half a year ago). The 8 core 16 thread Socket 2011 Sandy-Bridge will win hands down, but will cost 900$ for unlocked edition and 1000$ for extreme edition (they can't lock it completely, too little overclock).

Basically, everything price-wise remains the same, and we get 2 more cores and about 20% more performance per clock, + higher clock speed.

Good days ahead whichever platform you choose.
 
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