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I bought the xl2370 and ended up returning. The colors are great on this monitor but it still suffers from poor viewing angles. I bought a ea231wmi. It is a great monitor. Colors are good and the viewing angles are much better. I didn't notice bad white glow as is common on these eIPS panels.
I ended up selling it cause I needed the cash for an emergency. I have since bought a 2209wa which I am happy with for the price, although I wish I still had the ea231wmi.
LED backlight is just a marketing gimmick. The only positive effect it has is that the monitor "warms up" quicker from standby.
Can you elaborate a little on the viewing angles. Does it come into play when viewed head on? I know that my Dell S2309W was slightly darker on top even when viewed straight on.
Also is there anything you prefer of the ea231wmi over the 2209wa other than the increased resolution? 2209wa is indeed a great monitor for the price but I can't get over the dullness of the colors when viewing movies and games especially coming from a glossy monitor.
I'm not sure if either is a worthwhile upgrade over the 2209wa. I wonder how long it will be still before we see an LED backlit IPS monitor?
LED backlight is just a marketing gimmick. The only positive effect it has is that the monitor "warms up" quicker from standby.
Sorry, no, more to it than that.
Cleaner whites and blacks, just to name the obvious one.
If you are used to a tn panel then this monitor should be okay. To mo the most noticeable is the top to bottom viewing angle. Also for 300 I felt that it was a cheaply made monitor. The back plastic on it very cheap and flexes alot when handled to assemble. I also don't really like the glossy bezel. They seem to scratch easier, or least minor blemishes are alot more noticeable.
Viewing levels bad from top and bottom? Not unless I am standing over it or sitting on the floor, which I don't think ppl are doing. And quite honestly I never understood the debate over viewing angles. I sit in front as most users do. So whats the point of side or top view? If it were and LCD T.V., well of course that matters! But not so much on something looking straight on to.
Avail, try adjusting your gamma on the monitor or the Catalyst/Nvidia Control panel. That helped me as I know exactly what you are talking about. Whites seemed overbright.
After using IPS monitors the viewing angles differences are very noticeable. Like I said if you are accustomed to TN panels then this should be no problem.
True. It still kind of amazes me how people don't notice how much the viewing angles on a TN distort the picture even when when sitting front and center. That's the whole point of a wide viewing angles LCD in my view - to sit directly in front of a screen without colors shifting.After using IPS monitors the viewing angles differences are very noticeable. Like I said if you are accustomed to TN panels then this should be no problem.
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.phpI'm used to IPS panels but I'll take the speed of a TN over the viewing angles over an IPS any day. It's a computer, I'm sitting front and center anyway.
I returned my XL2370. The colors were way too bright and turning down the brightness and anything else did nothing to help. I tried my consoles with it, and the PS3 and 360 games also looked like crap on it when compared to my Acer H233H.
It looked like a real nice panel for watching 1080P movies and whatnot, but for gaming it just didn't do well for me.
I returned my XL2370. The colors were way too bright and turning down the brightness and anything else did nothing to help.
Hi Arklight, can you explain why or what you mean when you say the PS3 and 360 games also looked like crap on it when compared to your Acer H233H? What makes your H233H so much better for consoles and why is the xl2370 better for movies but not gaming? This monitor is finally in stock here and I'm about to take the plunge.
Uhh.. what the hell does a monitor have to do with jaggies? The only reason I could think of why a monitor would hide jaggies is to be blurrier than the source image.
You can probably blame it on the HDMI connection, but otherwise your claims about jaggies in PC games are unfounded. Add anti aliasing, thats what its there for.
I can tell you that it is much more vibrant than either the 2209wa or the ea231wmi. I have owned them all. Currently I have the ea231wmi. I just couldnt stand the horizonal viewing angles. I couldn't take it after having an ips 2007wfp. Also the casing is made from cheap ass plastic. I know you dont ussually look at the back of your monitor but I still don't want it feel like a cheap plastic toy. Not worth the price especially since you can get the ea231wmi for less than the xl2370 at least here in the states.
Uhh.. what the hell does a monitor have to do with jaggies? The only reason I could think of why a monitor would hide jaggies is to be blurrier than the source image.
You can probably blame it on the HDMI connection, but otherwise your claims about jaggies in PC games are unfounded. Add anti aliasing, thats what its there for.
This.
And about the colors really popping out, and black crush. It has nothing to do with your display. I also have BadCompany 2 and at first the colors were just sooo obvious and there was black crush all over. White crush too. But i changed the settings in the menu (where it says adjust so you can see all shapes)
And now everything is just perfect. So i think you kinda messed up, theres was nothing wrong with the display.
Arklight, thank you so much for your review. It's always nice to get peoples firsthand experience with a monitor. I agree with the posters who mention that jaggies have nothing to do with a monitor and I personally see the XL2370's clarity (as you say) as one of it's advantages. It's similar to how you notice all the impertections of a DVD when you play it on a FULL HD TV. The problem is the source material. The problem can somewhat be alleviated by monitors with a smaller dot pitch which is one of the advantages of playing on a monitor over a big screen TV.
However I did some research on the H233H that you rave about as it looked interesting and I found people complaining about that monitor's jaggies and loss of dark detail problem, the very same problems you described about the XL2370! I wonder how much of that is due to user configuration and/or panel variance.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1477976&highlight=H233H
I agree with you on the color palette issue however. Having tested Dell's S2309W I remember there was a chair in the opening scene of Bioshock and while trying to configure the monitor I could not tell if it was supposed to be dark red or brown. It sounds stupid that something so trivial bothered me but I've come ot appreciate accurate colors thanks to the 2209wa. So truthfully, while I am very curious to test out the XL2370 vibrancy, I am very happy with the 2209wa and the only thing holding it back is the resolution which would bump it up from great to awesome! All for the low measley price of $200! I hear that Nec's EA231WMi is basically as close to a 1080P version of the 2209wa and were it more readily available I would certainly have jumped on it!
Looks like if I end up getting this monitor I'll have to buy a new 360 to use the HDMI. Damn my old xbox 360 and its lack of hdmi.