Samsung Galaxy S10 Preorders in South Korea Are Slower than Its Predecessors

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  1. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard as it Gets

    Apr 10, 2003
    According to the Yonhap News Agency, preorders for the new Samsung Galaxy S10 lineup are slower than its predecessors. Industry sources say only 140,000 Galaxy S10 units have been sold on the first day of preorder availability. "The number of Galaxy S10's first-day registration falls below that of the Galaxy S9's 180,000 units released in March 2018 and the Galaxy Note 9's 200,000 units launched in August, they noted." The preorder registration period started four days in advance of the official launch of the Galaxy S10e, S10 and S10+. Samsung says an additional 40,000 phones have been sold without carriers' contracts and claims this places the total sales figure at 180,000 units.

    As Samsung plans to launch Galaxy S10's 5G model later this month and release its first foldable device supporting 5G networks in mid-May in the local market, consumers are seen to be taking a wait-and-see approach for the new flagship smartphone, industry officials said. Consumers who activate their phones by replacing USIM cards on their own are not included in mobile carriers' plan.
  2. PenGunn

    PenGunn Limp Gawd

    May 30, 2013
    Its up against Huawei which is just killing it right now. Especially the folders where the Mate X is much better.
  3. Jim Kim

    Jim Kim 2[H]4U

    May 24, 2012
    fone fatigue
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  4. Jester1550

    Jester1550 Gawd

    Apr 2, 2005
    Stop releasing them every bloody year (Apple too!).

    Wait a year or two and get some REAL progress and I'll upgrade.
  5. travisty

    travisty Gawd

    Feb 3, 2016
    I'm probably not going to look at Samsung again for phones, too much bloatware
  6. Rahh

    Rahh [H]ard|Gawd

    Jan 14, 2005
    no one needs to upgrade even 2 year out these days.
  7. sirmonkey1985

    sirmonkey1985 [H]ard|DCer of the Month - July 2010

    Sep 13, 2008
    bloatware and overpriced.. at the prices they're selling at i'd rather just use a moto G7 and buy a real camera and still have money in my wallet, lol.
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  8. dvsman

    dvsman 2[H]4U

    Dec 2, 2009
    IMO it's not even Huawei (or other competitor) - it's the fact that the new phones cost an arm and a leg and for the most part are iterative / evolution phones with nothing new / revolutionary. I'm still on my Note 8 and it works perfectly fine. The newer model (Note 9) didn't do anything new that I needed so I didn't upgrade. I know iPhone users in the same boat. Newer iPhones didn't really offer anything new, so they kept their current phones.

    Once 5G becomes a thing, then I can see ditching working phones for new phones to get access to 5G but paying a grand for just more of the same, isn't really a compelling sales pitch and alot of people seem to have realized that now.
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  9. Wolf-R1

    Wolf-R1 [H]ard|Gawd

    Aug 30, 2004
    This and the fact that for so little innovation the costs are increasing dramatically. It's always been a bad idea to copy Apple's pricing model. Especially now that Apple isn't the innovator that it used to be.
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  10. zkostik

    zkostik Gawd

    Sep 17, 2009
    Buying a real camera doesn't work as you have to carry the damn thing around so having a decent phone cam helps. You can now remote their bloatware but it isn't as apparent or bad as it used to be. S9+ performs great and has excellent battery life. I like optical zoom on my S9+ too. I cannot really complain about it aside from OLED burn in. As for general upgrades, it makes little sense for people with one of the previous generations as not too much has changed and prices are way too high. I went from S5 which pretty much started having too many issues after all the years I had it. I did like improved performance and bigger screen, though am not a fan of OLED despite screen looking great and that damn thing burns in (they will not fix). I was also looking at LG but their updates and overall OS polish is well behind Samsung. My general issue with Samsung is terrible support despite premium product pricing. Aside from a phone which according to many websites and my research is pretty much the best Android device right now, I would never buy anything Samsung.
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  11. defaultluser

    defaultluser [H]ardForum Junkie

    Jan 14, 2006
    Right , Apple can get away with hiking prices, because they are the only supplier.

    Samsung can only expect sales to fall, as there are too many competitors.

    After Samsung started pretending that people only like gigantic curved screens on their phones plus that horrible dedicated bixby button, I went and bought something else.

    After the Galaxy S7, their sales have been falling every generation, so I can't be the only one. And their quality control has fallen through the toilet (wife's new s9 has had on-and-off shit performance for the first year of ownership, as they had a power management bug. Only fixed itself last month with the android OS update).

    I bought a Pixel 2 instead, and in the first year have yet to have any performance issues with it.
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  12. M76

    M76 [H]ardForum Junkie

    Jun 12, 2012
    What they're not buying the same shit repackaged every year for 20% more over the last one? Well too bad, so sad. That's just how far consumer stupidity will get you.
  13. Soulmetzger

    Soulmetzger [H]ard|Gawd

    Aug 10, 2004
    The wife and I feel we're about the only people that only use their phones for calling, texting, pictures and emails. We're still rocking the Galaxy S6 and it still fills every one of those needs just fine. My only concern is the battery longevity at this point.
  14. Cipix

    Cipix n00b

    Mar 4, 2018
    It seems they didn't take the hint from Apple's dismal iPhone financials.
  15. Term-X

    Term-X 2[H]4U

    Apr 21, 2001
    With the new floor of $1499+ CAD for top-end phones, compared to just over $1000 the past few years (even that was getting to be a bit much), it is not hard to see why.
  16. MarkVI

    MarkVI Limp Gawd

    Sep 30, 2014
    I'll be sticking with my LG G5 until there is a compelling reason to upgrade. I'll just spend the 30 seconds it takes to pop out the battery and replace it when it starts to wear out. I already replaced the screen once and it took me a grand total of 10 minutes.

    Could anyone explain to me how any cell phone can be worth $1500? What could it possibly do that would justify the price premium over a mid-range phone or an older flagship phone?
  17. nutzo

    nutzo [H]ardness Supreme

    Feb 15, 2004
    What do you do when your sales volume drops?
    You raise the price on the next model...… That's should help increase the sales volume :rolleyes:

    $1,000 is just too much for most people, even $800 is too much.
    I work with people who have old apple phones and would like to upgrade due to problems they are having,
    but they can't afford $1,000 for a phone and don't trust a used one with a short warranty.

    They must have received their economics education in a California or New York public school. :p
  18. sirmonkey1985

    sirmonkey1985 [H]ard|DCer of the Month - July 2010

    Sep 13, 2008
    i use mine for browsing the web and work related calls and texts, that's about it.. grabbed a moto g5 plus for 200 bucks a couple years ago and will just continue using this until the battery shits the bed or the phone dies just like i did with my last phone that i had for 9 years before the battery would die from full charge with a 10 minute phone call. how people and manufactures can justify a phone costing 1000+ dollars is beyond me though, my phone does everything the s10 does or any other phone released after it.
  19. Gigantopithecus

    Gigantopithecus [H]ardOCP Case Reviewer

    Aug 6, 2009
    Since moving from an iPhone 6+ to a Note8, I am at the point where any mid-range phone can do everything I need. The only feature I'm willing to drop flagship money on is the camera. If the camera's not improving then I'm not upgrading.
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  20. Mikolai

    Mikolai n00b

    Sep 9, 2011
    Honestly, I just recently dropped money on an S10+. My Galaxy S5, while still working, has been slowly inching towards unusable every day. So either way, it'll be a huge upgrade for me. I'm liking the features of the S10+. The camera is definitely a plus for me but one of the bigger features I find fascinating is Samsung's Wireless Power Share. You can literally turn your phone into a wireless charger and charge other devices that also support wireless charging. I believe Huawei has a similar feature on their Mate 20 Pro as well called "Wireless Reverse Charging".

    I don't see myself using it a lot (if at all) every day, but for traveling it certainly is a nice feature to have in an emergency (i.e., one charge port available, travel buddy's phone is low on charge during a short country hike, etc.).

    Unfortunately, the cheapest S10e model doesn't have it, only the S10 and S10+ (and the S10 5G later down the road).
  21. gwarren007

    gwarren007 [H]ardForum Junkie

    Apr 15, 2006
    Note 5 here, and I don't want a curved screen. Not a lot from Samsung there....
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  22. YeuEmMaiMai

    YeuEmMaiMai [H]ardForum Junkie

    Jun 11, 2004
    not sure that I am liking the camera being embedded in the screen like that... rather have it off the screen as in previous phones.. also not enough improvement over S8/9 devices
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2019
  23. Laowai

    Laowai Gawd

    Aug 9, 2018
    Exactly. Add to that (or perhaps because of that) phones are also not the 'status symbol' they used to be.

    I don't use a phone for anything except communication though. I guess if having the latest gadgets is a job requirement for somebody, the high prices may not be as important.....but I'm certainly not in that group of folks. I'm rocking the phone my internet/mobile carrier gave me and am fine with it.
  24. Nebell

    Nebell [H]ard|Gawd

    Jul 20, 2015
    The phones have become so damn good that there's almost no point in upgrading. Before I would upgrade every year, after I got Note 8, I haven't had much thought about upgrading. That's a 2017 phone and it kicks ass even today.

    Why should I upgrade to S10? The pen in Note 8 is not a dealmaker for me, I can do just fine without it. But why? Because of more screen estate? Sure, battery life is a bit tempting, but Note 8 is fine for my needs.

    I'll tell you when I will upgrade:
    Once they upgrade the damn speakers
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  25. Dekoth-E-

    Dekoth-E- [H]ardness Supreme

    Mar 23, 2010
    All phone cameras have been good enough for the past 7 years now. Honestly the camera shouldn't even be a selling point anymore.
  26. TheOne&OnlyZeke

    TheOne&OnlyZeke 100% Irish

    Jul 21, 2000
    They, like Apple, are going stupid on the price
    I've given up on getting the latest flagship when its launched

    Now I wait about 6 months and pick one up used far cheaper
  27. zkostik

    zkostik Gawd

    Sep 17, 2009
    Depends on your definition of good enough. If it has OIS then it should be alright. My biggest gripe with S5 was its shitty camera with no OIS. It did get pretty slow over the years, especially with Android 6 upgrade. However it was a pretty solid device but it did get to the point I really wanted a new one. My wife's Nexus 5 held up way better and it wasn't slow at all but power button has failed on it and it was too much of a pain to resolder it. It too had a pretty shitty camera and with small kids growing up it seemed worth getting a new phone with good camera as that's likely the only thing you'd have around most of the time. I do have a nice DSLR for when I am really going to take pictures but it's too big and rarely gets used in day to day life.