Ryzen 5700X3D for $200

ugh.... so tempting.. but.. as a previous poster stated.. this is still a 105W CPU.. and how good are these.. considering they are 5800X3D rejects
 
jlbenedict said:
ugh.... so tempting.. but.. as a previous poster stated.. this is still a 105W CPU.. and how good are these.. considering they are 5800X3D rejects
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How good they are is well documented. Are you wondering after watching/reading a few reviews or just not sure in general?
 
chameleoneel said:
You can try price matching on Best Buy chat.
Unfortunately, the model/part number differs by one character.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/amd-ry...ktop-processor-silver/6573560.p?skuId=6573560
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I just looked at the pages again, and the UPC's are the same: 730143316088

Looks like MC simply made a typo on the part number. Anyone interested in one of these, should chat with Best Buy. You can also typically get 4-8% cashback (max of $50 back) with retailmenot, at Best Buy.
Rakuten does BB cashback as well, but they usually have heavy restrictions on which item categories. So, pay attention. Retailmenot only restricts Apple products from cashback at BB.
 
If I didn't already have a 5700x, I'd upgrade to this. AM4 is dead to me tho.

Nice find with the Best Buy match.
 
Vengance_01 said:
AM4 longevity has been legendary. AMD really delivered on there promise. for a budget build this chip at 200$ might be still tempting in the right situation
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For those of us who are waiting for the prices to come down on Ryzen 9000 series hardware in a couple of years!
 
bought my 7800x3d like 8 months ago for $350, well worth the $150 extra over this "deal"
 
lukem5 said:
bought my 7800x3d like 8 months ago for $350, well worth the $150 extra over this "deal"
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For $420 shipped, I bought a 5950x, MSI Meg B550, and 64 GB 3600 RAM about a month and a half ago. For some people, this 5700x3d is a good deal.

In a year or two, you may be able to buy a used 7800x3d, B650 board, and 64 GB of RAM for $500.
 
lukem5 said:
bought my 7800x3d like 8 months ago for $350, well worth the $150 extra over this "deal"
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Disagree! This is an excellent deal, the performance difference between 7800X3D and 5800X3D/5700X3D at 4K Resolution is ~3% difference! This is just a drop into existing AM4 Builds, the money saved from moving into expensive AM5 Platform is spent on a new GPU when those drop in price and go on sale!
 
Interesting that Amazon and Newegg have no "official" 5800x3D listings today, just the usual overpriced 3rd party reseller listings.
 
chaikovski2002 said:
Disagree! This is an excellent deal, the performance difference between 7800X3D and 5800X3D/5700X3D at 4K Resolution is ~3% difference! This is just a drop into existing AM4 Builds, the money saved from moving into expensive AM5 Platform is spent on a new GPU when those drop in price and go on sale!
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AM5 isn't that expensive. That's a 2 year old argument. If you were buying new anyway, the difference is only slightly more at this point and has an upgrade path going forward vs. a dead end platform.

Obviously, if you already have an AM4 setup, then it's a great upgrade for an older AM4 CPU, but it's the end of the road. AM5 has a future path with another generation or two of CPUs.
 
DooLocsta said:
If you have MicroCenter close by this is $190

https://www.microcenter.com/product...-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
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Yeah this is a strong last upgrade option for anyone who has a decent AM4 mobo/setup to extend its life for several years longer. I mean honestly for midrange gaming and regular use combined with Win 11 support (hate it but it is easy for family and casuals) this will be enough CPU for quite some time yet. My old build ,now side box, and two of the Kid's PCs are on good boards and older Ryzen CPUs... SO TEMPTING!

EDIT: And to echo others.. If one is building new get a GOOD AM5 board 32g ram and a 7600 for the same CPU price. OF course it costs more to swap platforms but selling the AM4 stuff could offset some. My buddy is still on his 7600x placeholder CPU from launch with a 4090 and 4k gaming. He still doesn't see the need to upgrade it and has now decided to hold out for possibly the last top gaming chip the platform will support in a year or two.
Always about use case , need and budget same as always in the land of PC building.
 
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lukem5 said:
bought my 7800x3d like 8 months ago for $350, well worth the $150 extra over this "deal"
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kirbyrj said:
AM5 isn't that expensive. That's a 2 year old argument. If you were buying new anyway, the difference is only slightly more at this point and has an upgrade path going forward vs. a dead end platform.

Obviously, if you already have an AM4 setup, then it's a great upgrade for an older AM4 CPU, but it's the end of the road. AM5 has a future path with another generation or two of CPUs.
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This gives AM4 users gaming performance on par with Ryzen 7600 and 7700. Without buying a new mobo and RAM.

It's a also a solid budget option, for an all new build. As the mobo and RAM will be cheap.
 
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It took me 2 weeks to pull the trigger, but I finally ordered. I'll be clearing the crap out of my tiny computer room soon, and using my "main" AM4 system again. The 5800X will trickle down to another PC.
 
Price is great and I mostly game on my PC.. no more workin on it. But I'm not sure it'd be a upgrade from the 5900x I'm using that boosts to nearly 5Ghz.
 
Evil Scooter said:
Price is great and I mostly game on my PC.. no more workin on it. But I'm not sure it'd be a upgrade from the 5900x I'm using that boosts to nearly 5Ghz.
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Depends primarily on the games you play. High resolution FPS and RPGs wouldn't be worth it. Low resolution and chasing maximum framerates or a lot of sim and RTS games, then yes, there probably will be a noticeable benefit.
 
kirbyrj said:
I disagree on the 2nd.
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If it is a build for someone that never upgrade part of the system and it is for gaming.... depending on price it could be imo. Specially once the ddr4 on a deal, cheap cooler price and powersupply need taken into account
 
Tsumi said:
Depends primarily on the games you play. High resolution FPS and RPGs wouldn't be worth it. Low resolution and chasing maximum framerates or a lot of sim and RTS games, then yes, there probably will be a noticeable benefit.
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Mostly BF5 of late and Red Dead 2.
 
Tsumi said:
I doubt you will see any improvement over your 5900x.
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There won't be an improvement over the 5900x. Sidegrade at best.


While the 5700x3d has it's place, and I'm sure it will be an upgrade for some, but this processor was a bit late in coming to market and not likely to topple one the kings of AM4. 5800x3d is a slight boost. 8%ish increase and a bit better memory latency?
 
DogsofJune said:
There won't be an improvement over the 5900x. Sidegrade at best.


While the 5700x3d has it's place, and I'm sure it will be an upgrade for some, but this processor was a bit late in coming to market and not likely to topple one the kings of AM4. 5800x3d is a slight boost. 8%ish increase and a bit better memory latency?
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Huh?

In a lot of games, Zen3X3D's minimum frames are practically equivalent to Zen 3's average frames. 5700X3D is a pretty large increase in gaming performance, over a 5900x. Averaged over 10 games, Hardware unboxed has it "almost 20%" faster than a 5700x. And basically the same as a 7600x.

However, if you look at individual games, the variance is a bit high. Most games get a decent boost from the Vcache. Some games get a huge boost. And a lesser few see very little boost (Baldure's Gate 3 also scales well with cores. Making it one of the few games where a higher core count can actually match the Vcache. So in BG3, 5700X3D is a huge boost over 5700X. But, 7950X practically matches it, due to being able to scale with the extra cores. Not a common occurence in gaming.)
 
chameleoneel said:
Huh?

In a lot of games, Zen3X3D's minimum frames are practically equivalent to Zen 3's average frames. 5700X3D is a pretty large increase in gaming performance, over a 5900x. Averaged over 10 games, Hardware unboxed has it "almost 20%" faster than a 5700x. And basically the same as a 7600x.

However, if you look at individual games, the variance is a bit high. Most games get a decent boost from the Vcache. Some games get a huge boost. And a lesser few see very little boost (Baldure's Gate 3 also scales well with cores. Making it one of the few games where a higher core count can actually match the Vcache. So in BG3, 5700X3D is a huge boost over 5700X. But, 7950X practically matches it, due to being able to scale with the extra cores. Not a common occurence in gaming.)
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The caveat to that testing is it was all done in CPU-limited scenarios to highlight differences between the CPUs. Once you get into a GPU bound situation (most first and third person games at high resolutions), the differences hardly matter.
DogsofJune said:
32 meg more in L3 cache helps that much huh?
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It can, with the caveat being that it only helps in CPU bound situations. That's why the game being played and the resolution it's being played at matters in determining whether a CPU upgrade will help.

A little asterisk to this is that even in games where the average framerate might not be affected, minimum framerates and 1% lows can be improved with an X3D CPU, reducing the amount of stutter seen, if there is any.
 
Learn something new all the time, tho I doubt I'd trade my 5900x for something with 3d cache
 
Tsumi said:
The caveat to that testing is it was all done in CPU-limited scenarios to highlight differences between the CPUs. Once you get into a GPU bound situation (most first and third person games at high resolutions), the differences hardly matter.

It can, with the caveat being that it only helps in CPU bound situations. That's why the game being played and the resolution it's being played at matters in determining whether a CPU upgrade will help.

A little asterisk to this is that even in games where the average framerate might not be affected, minimum framerates and 1% lows can be improved with an X3D CPU, reducing the amount of stutter seen, if there is any.
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Well, sure. GPU limited is GPU limited.

If someone with an AM4 system wants to do a big GPU upgrade, a 5700X3D makes a lot of sense.
 
Well shit I decided to move back to a larger case in the Lian-Li DAN A-4 H20 case. Thus now I have a 240mm AIO with old school Gentle Typhoon 120mm fans(I will never get rid of these) The question becomes should I sell my 5900 OEM 65 watt part and current 5600x for a 5700x3D as my last hurrah on AM4. Do we think 8 cores will be enough 18-24 months till the jump to DDR5 CAMM2 and 99XX3D chips or should I just stick with 5900 and sell the 5600x. I am swapping coolers and cases thus everything needs to come out. I am leaning towards the 5700x3D
 
Vengance_01 said:
Well shit I decided to move back to a larger case in the Lian-Li DAN A-4 H20 case. Thus now I have a 240mm AIO with old school Gentle Typhoon 120mm fans(I will never get rid of these) The question becomes should I sell my 5900 OEM 65 watt part and current 5600x for a 5700x3D as my last hurrah on AM4. Do we think 8 cores will be enough 18-24 months till the jump to DDR5 CAMM2 and 99XX3D chips or should I just stick with 5900 and sell the 5600x. I am swapping coolers and cases thus everything needs to come out. I am leaning towards the 5700x3D
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What GPU you got?
 
BTW Micro Center in Tustin, CA just restocked. 25+ in stock and 189$. Kinda pissed as I just put together the new system with 5900 OEM. All core I am seeing 4.4-4.5GHZ. Single Core seeing 4.6-4.7GHZ. With the low boost speeds of only 4.1GHZ+200MHZ offset not sure its worth the hassle.
 
Vengance_01 said:
BTW Micro Center in Tustin, CA just restocked. 25+ in stock and 189$. Kinda pissed as I just put together the new system with 5900 OEM. All core I am seeing 4.4-4.5GHZ. Single Core seeing 4.6-4.7GHZ. With the low boost speeds of only 4.1GHZ+200MHZ offset not sure its worth the hassle.
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There is a thread on overclocking the 5900, helped me a lot.
 
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