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I did not expect gap at 4K to be that large, its making me re-think viability of my 5800x CPU, I installed 4090 RTX yesterday, now I am questioning if I should move to 13900K in the near future for 4k gaming. First I bought external sound blaster G6 to replace my internal ZxR so the 4090 has all the free slots it needs, then I got 1200W PSU unit to replace 850W to be on a safe side, now I am thinking about Mobo / CPU replacement. This card is quite something...
I think one variable would be at what FPS those gap become large and your monitor FPS (and your wanted FPS), I could see a situation large gap exist at 4K yes but at large FPS.
True next gen titles could also be harder on the CPU. The two Spider-Man games make my 9900k look like a joke. Even The Ascent has CPU limited areas where my 9900k can't even get 60 FPS with ray tracing on. I can be standing in a spot with the frame rate hovering just below 60 and GPU usage just plummets so lowering it to 720p still results in the same performance. And with more and more people trying to push high refresh rate monitors the CPU will be even more important.
He was comparing the 12900k to the 5800x because the 5800x is what they normally use in their testing machine. Plenty of people had said he was CPU limited so he tested the 12900k to see if that was the case.
Yea but think about it for a second. It seemed like a intel advertisement campaign. Guy that does reviews for everything and has tested 7700x and 12900k didn't already possibly know that it 5800x will be slower? I mean kinda doesn't make him a good reviewer lmao. Just a thought.
Well again that was the testing machine that he's been using so maybe he didn't want to change it just for one GPU review at the time. The absolute vast majority of people would have laughed if you said the 5800x would hold back a 4090 anyway.
Getting a 4090 means system rebuild. I wouldn't think to run it on current gen hardware. 1200hp on used all season tires.
You have a point and have order in already for 4090 at best buy, picking up this weekend. Got a 7700x, downgraded from 7950x to prioritize gaming. 4090ti would be nice but as always wanna use it now and not sure care too much about another 10% performance and waiting another 8+ months.
4090 was on my now list but I'm not ready for the rebuild, so I decided to get a $700 3090 after rewards from Amazon Warehouse.
Yeah this is what I am thinking too.
Agreed. They needed to find the lowest latency not the highest number. Would question that groups skills.
I'm also considering a monitor upgrade, going from 3440x1440 to 3840x1600 144Hz+ but may still have a bottleneck.
Agree 100% with monitor goal, that resolution and refresh rate I see as ideal. Except the 4090 lack of DP2.0+ makes it not suitable if something like that comes about.
Yep. DP1.4a is another bottleneck for the GPU itself. We need 5120x2160 120-165Hz+ to get the most from the card.
Exactly, now I may get the 42" OLED as a stop-gap until something like that is available. I see the monitor, display device as more important than the gaming GPU in the end. If the monitor cannot display what the GPU can dish out, one is wasting money on the gaming GPU.
Bingo! The monitor is the most important part of the build.
They're not trying to run a head to head.
If you read the comments section, I think you'll find your concerns are covered within the first page
You'll like it. I use a 48" LG C1 as my gaming monitor and it's amazing! With the 4090.
I wouldn't recommend this. You will definitely see an upgrade in gaming, but if you use your PC for anything else, it will be a downgrade.
FWIW, I noticed a consistent 15 fps increase going from 8700K to 12900k with my 3090 in World of Warcraft during one of the raid encounters.Have anybody seen any benchmarks showing how much uplift I can expect going from a 9900K to Raptor lake or Zen 4? I can’t seem to find anymore using 9900K or equivalent on the latest benchmarks for those new CPUs.
This is why I am not going for the 4090 & keeping my 3080Ti because I know my 12700kf has already met Its match with what I have now any more is mismatched.
The fact is that a 4090 + any CPU from the last few years is producing frame rates that are insanely high in most situations. We are very much in a period where cutting edge hardware has outrun advancements in game tech. It’s awesome.
That only says something about how people are biased themselves. Things are being it approached too sentimental these days. Just take it as it is and stop being brand loyal, either way is just plain naive since all companies are out to maximize profits.