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RTX 3xxx performance speculation
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That really isn't saying much, his last video I saw was 'amd is coming in october, don't buy last gen products today' yeah, real fount of knowledge.
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No need to upgrade. I think 2080ti owners need to wait for either the refresh or next gen. Unless you make money with your system or just have to have the best even if you will only notice staring at benchmarks.Hey guys. Is any sense to sell Aorus Rtx 2080 Ti Waterforce and buy Rtx 3090 FE? Currently i am on 1440P and very happy with temps and noise and higher fps everywhere. Currently i am resting in bed,working and ANTHEM is on my monitor hehe
Card has normal 8 pin PCIe power connectors.
The adapters are only for those with ancient PSUs that doen't have 8 pin PCIe power. So won't be used by most people. Really if you are going to use a new 320W+ GPU and you dont have 8 pin PCIe Power connectors on your PSU, it's probably time for a new PSU.
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Hey guys. Is any sense to sell Aorus Rtx 2080 Ti Waterforce and buy Rtx 3090 FE? Currently i am on 1440P and very happy with temps and noise and higher fps everywhere. Currently i am resting in bed,working and ANTHEM is on my monitor hehe
You answered your own question. If you are happy with temps, noise, and performance, why would you even be considering upgrading? 2080 Ti is more than sufficient for 1440P. Even if you sell your 2080, you're still talking about $1,000+ to upgrade to a card that gives absolutely no practical improvement for you.
Somehow, the 3-series announcement has made everyone think the 2080 Ti is a bad card. I don't get it. It's a bad value. It was a bad value the day it launched, and it stayed a bad value until it was made obsolete by the 3070 and 3080. But, ignoring the price (since you already own it), it's still an insanely fast, very good GPU.
Been looking for this, Thx. Looks damn sexy
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They have a 1080p monitor and an Intel CPU so that they can keep bragging that their Intel CPU is soooo much faster in gaming than Ryzen
There are a lot of idiots out there.
But I want to run AT 144 FPS on my G-sync 1440P 144Hz monitor!!11!1!They have a 1080p monitor and an Intel CPU so that they can keep bragging that their Intel CPU is soooo much faster in gaming than Ryzen
There are a lot of idiots out there.
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As someone who sets anything RGB to white and never touches it again... I approve. Thanks Nvidia for ditching the green.
I see alot of 3080Ti 20gb speculation. If Nvidia is going to have an updated skew, it would make more sense to up the memory bus to 384bit like the 3090, add 2gb for 12gb and add a few more Sms or Cuda cores.
With current DDR6x, to go 20gb would make the 3080Ti have memory on both sides like the 3090 adding additional costs to the board, cooling and size for basically unneeded memory for gaming. Going 12gb just makes way more sense.
With current DDR6x, to go 20gb would make the 3080Ti have memory on both sides like the 3090 adding additional costs to the board, cooling and size for basically unneeded memory for gaming. Going 12gb just makes way more sense.
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Hmmm, that is a good point!
...same...
As long as the 'RGB' lights can do a good solid color to match whatever other scheme is going on, I'm good with them. White makes a decent backup otherwise.
I thought they were just waiting for the higher-density modules from Micron? Using more modules is fine for the 3090 as it is positioned as a Titan in their lineup, but it makes sense to hold off on that for the more accessible products.
I would think double density modules would be way more expensive as well with additional cooling requirements to go along with it for what benefit? That card would cut right into what the 3090 is for. Not saying neither will happen, just putting that out there. I am sure Nvidia has numerous options open to them depending upon what becomes available, supply, market conditions, competition if they have any in this area etc.
They'll probably have to wait and see what Micron's yields look like. Cheap enough, they just double as is, too expensive and they may just not release them, or it may be economical to go with additional modules.
Yep, also the Quadro cards, professional sku's will need these plus they are more limited on space constraints as in two slot cards for the most part. Will be interesting. If there is a low quantity of cards initially for this generation, it will be hard to determine if it is a component supply restriction, yield issue etc. unless Nvidia lets out the info which is most unlikely due to adversely roller coasting their stock. Have to wait for their next investors conference for info like that.
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Personally I try to disable any and all lighting, but what I am curious about is what proportion of people who buy a $1,499 GPU leave the stock cooler on it?
If they are anything like me, that cooler is only used for a brief stress test after receipt to verify that it isn't defective, then it comes off and a water block goes on it.
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The tech companies are all the same.
Anyone who uses the press kit verbatim in their presentation and never challenges or criticises any of their marketing bullshit is a real tech site.
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I don't know but I'm an anomoly maybe, I build systems with custom cooling when its a requested feature for friends/family systems but I haven't water cooled my own rig since the early 2010's. When I stopped building my systems and buying boutique systems(2) from 2014-2017 I still built for other people. I haven't missed it or the $3-400 added cost, I guess I lost part of what brought me to this hobby.
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Nothing wrong with using stock coolers.
I guess I just thought of the >$1,000 GPU market as one that mostly appeals to people who want to go all out, and all out usually involves custom cooling.
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I'd bet more than you think. There are a lot of people who'd buy a video card that expensive because they can afford it and want the best, that doesn't mean they have the knowledge or desire to get into water.
A decade ago, I was all into building a custom loop. One day, I just sort of lost interest. The performance benefits were minimal, and the cost and effort were substacial. The reality today is, I have the knowledge, and I have the money, but I lack the desire. I'd never go custom water again. I don't need a bleeding edge overclock. I'll get what I can out of the cooling provided and be more than happy.
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100% me right now.
I've never really had an issue with nvidia thermals... sometimes the fan curve is a little conservative so I've turned it up to keep temps down, but never been concerned with temps ever. AMD cards are another story.
not even looking at the high end cards, what could they possibly have done to a 3070 to make it worth 40% more than FE?
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Water cooling largely hasn't been about performance for your a number of years.
It's more about noise. I don't understand how so many of you can enjoy your systems with intrusive loud fan noise.
When I game I crank fans to 100% and slap on my headphones. When I’m done I set it back to default and take off headphones and turn on speakers while surfing the web or trolling YouTube.
As long as the noise is consistent I can block it out. Hate when fans ramp up so I set a slightly higher idle fan speed but run the biggest and quietest fans I can. The last time I went water, I was miserable because all I could hear was electrical/coil noise and pump noise, which as far as db go was quieter, but much less pleasant than the whoosh of air, in my opinion.
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For me specifically, I do most of my gaming these days on the couch, with my PC in the next room over. When I'm in my office where the system is, it's nearly silent for any non-intensive task, and I've got a headset on if I'm gaming in there. Can't hear it either way. I imagine the later is the case with many these days, throw a headset on and noise is no longer an issue.
I tend to leave the cooler on it, but I also historically have waited and bought the best AIB I could get (currently a mix of a 1080 Aorus Windforce on the wife's, and a Red Devil 5700XT on the workstation - gaming machine is on a temp 2080TI FE). I was leaning towards buying a 3080 with block already on it - like that more than voiding the warranty, or having slippery fingers trying to position a block.
I did it recently because I was bored - needed a hobby during Covid, so I built a new workstation and a new gaming machine, and put a full loop in the gaming box. But you're right - it's not for thermals, it's for the noise and the why not aspect.
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And also the thermals.
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Thermals matter less than they used to.
These days you may get marginally better boost clocks from managing thermals, but they don't make a huge difference.
And remember, our CPU's and GPU's can run just fine at max temp 24/7 for years on end without degrading from it. \
If you are lowering temps for longevity, stop it. That's a fools errand.
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It's not for longevity or performance ... it's to prevent my room from becoming a sauna.
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You do realize that unless you are putting your radiator in a different room, by adding a water loop, you are still transferring the same amount of heat from your system to your room, right? It would have very little difference. It would transfer heat faster, so the room would actually warm up a tiny bit quicker, and then hit equilibrium at the same temp.
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It doesn’t, but thank you. Cold air is now blowing out the back of my case instead of hot air. It is noticeably less sauna-like in my room now.