twonunpackmule
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I'm not buying a new GPU until next spring. I'm eying the 2080. If prices are at $700 or so at that time.
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It probably will be around that pricing unless another cryptocraze, then everyone is eff up again.I'm not buying a new GPU until next spring. I'm eying the 2080. If prices are at $700 or so at that time.
$500-600 for a midrange card? Nvidia can go eat a dick.
I am sad it didn't came with a leather jacket!man that 2080 for $800 MSRP and 2080 Ti for $1200 sure look great, can't wait to get my hands on one of those OVER-PRICED cards especially since it has FREE shipping ... oh boy !!!
Well it is the hardware news of the day.
Seems to me Kyle thinks of himself as a journalist. He reports the news good and bad. In his reviews he has always tried to paint a real world picture instead of just copy and pasting the marketing spew.
Reporting on the news and presenting the facts good or bad no matter what you think of the person/company making the news is the mark of a good journalist.
what's negative is that it has become a rich person's "luxury" sport. Price fixing on the DDR4 ... when does it end? It's all about maximum profit screw the people they are idiots and will buy at ridiculous prices anyways and what is sad is ... far too many will do just that even though game released for the past 2 years have sucked big time (gameplay I mean) so whatcha gonna do with that new GTX 2080 Ti, play Andromeda?
AFAIK nVidia’s profit margin has been flat since 2012. It’s not like they’ve gotten greedier. Break even is what? $800?
I honestly have no reason to upgrade. I am more or less unbiased. Devil’s advocate a little.
If you look at the actual die sizes the prices are cheaper than you would expect... a $1200 Titan was ~470 mm^2 and now $1200 gets you over 700mm^2. I want to see some benches but not sure if I agree with all the negativity.
All that really matters is Price/Perf/Power
I am honestly quite surprised at you [H] for all the curd Nv did with GTX 10 series, GPP shenanigans not being as forthcoming as they should have been day one with DX 11/12 support etc, why so many posts about this RTX "Turing" stuff, they seemed to want you to "shut up" and not spill the beans on them (about what they were doing) but you are effectively giving them "free press".
I just don't get it ^.^
"Huang's presentation said the RTX 2070 will start at $499, the RTX 2080 at $699 and the RTX 2080 Ti at $999" - Polygon
SO here we are at $1200 for the Ti? Huang said "still far off" regarding the 20 series release and that was what, 2 months ago? A lying company selling a way over priced GPU ...
they have certainly earned the meaning of the name "Nvidia"
True....
But still, who cares what the die size is? Probably only Nvidia as it probably costs a fortune to manufacture and priced accordingly.
All that really matters is Price/Perf/Power
The Nvidia announcement is huge news as it is their next generation of cards. I think it's fair to say that they are simply covering the relevant news for their audience.
The point is it’s compute power absolutely destroys a Titan X which cost the same at launch and we don’t even have benches yet. I am sure they went RT and tensor for a reason rather than just straight CUDA. CUDA with the size allotment would have been around 50% faster.
It’s not logical to bash it before benches. It’s basically a Titan on steroids, much more die than we’ve ever got, for the same price.
The point is it’s compute power absolutely destroys a Titan X which cost the same at launch and we don’t even have benches yet. I am sure they went RT and tensor for a reason rather than just straight CUDA. CUDA with the size allotment would have been around 50% faster.
It’s not logical to bash it before benches. It’s basically a Titan on steroids, much more die than we’ve ever got, for the same price.
Huang said it would be MSRP @ $999 what part of that do you enjoy ignoring?
I don’t care what he said? Do we not learn from Pascal? That’s why I compare it against a $1200 Titan Xp.
I don’t care what he said? Do we not learn from Pascal? That’s why I compare it against a $1200 Titan Xp.
Compute power that only applies to Tensor/Ray tracing compatible software.....
that's where you and I differ ... I take a man at his word until his word becomes a lie then he's shit out of luck far as I'm concerned ,,, it's called integrity and once ya loose it it's gone
that's where you and I differ ... I take a man at his word until his word becomes a lie then he's shit out of luck far as I'm concerned ,,, it's called integrity and once ya loose it it's gone
We have plenty of stuff to complain about but to bitch about the CEO saying the cards were far off is beyond asinine. Far off has no specific meaning at all and it's not like the cards are even available right now so really 3 months sure is hell a long time if you were waiting for new tech."Huang's presentation said the RTX 2070 will start at $499, the RTX 2080 at $699 and the RTX 2080 Ti at $999" - Polygon
SO here we are at $1200 for the Ti? Huang said "still far off" regarding the 20 series release and that was what, 2 months ago? A lying company selling a way over priced GPU ...
they have certainly earned the meaning of the name "Nvidia"
From a consumer standpoint no one gives a shit about the die size. What they care about is how much performance increase they are getting at similar price points than what they are used to paying but Nvidia sure as hell is keeping quiet on anything but Ray tracing.Just curious, if they relabeled the cards Titan D, 2080ti and 2080 would you guys complain about the pricing? The pricing and die size would be inline with last gen. Actually way bigger dies.
From a consumer standpoint no one gives a shit about the die size. What they care about is how much performance increase they are getting at similar price points than what they are used to paying but Nvidia sure as hell is keeping quiet on anything but Ray tracing.
Please read the rest of what I said as I already answered you. What they choose to call the cards is irrelevant as again it's the performance increase at the usual price points that people look at. Someone that bought a 980ti or 1080 TI is looking at the 2080 TI as being a huge increase for around the same price hopefully. They are not looking for a miniscule upgrade for 40% increase in cost.Okay lets ignore die size.
If they relabeled it to Titan T, 2080ti from 2080ti, 2080 with the same pricing; would people be going ape shit?
Hopefully you see where I am going.
The only thing we know right now is that nVidia is probably pulling some shady shit with ray tracing and cornering the market.