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Reviving an old 3DFX powered PC

revenant said:
I have an 80mm fan blowing right on them getting air around and between them... I might add another though, just for extra confidence.



for sure... I've had that happen. Or just pull the card out and let it sit over night out of the PC.. I've had that fix a 9700pro.
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Got another rig to test the Voodoo5 in?
 
I don't have a running rig with a 3.3v agp slot.. I have an ESC (KT266) mobo with a slot that should support it but haven't built it yet... I can send you that mobo if you wanna try it. LMK
 
revenant said:
I don't have a running rig with a 3.3v agp slot.. I have an ESC (KT266) mobo with a slot that should support it but haven't built it yet... I can send you that mobo if you wanna try it. LMK
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You could tabletop the board and run it outside a case to test the card.
 
Thanks fellas, turns out the Y-splitter was loose to the Voodoo 5, appears to be working again, xD

Haven't booted it in some time. Been playing to much Saints Row The Third.
 
RogueTrip said:
Thanks fellas, turns out the Y-splitter was loose to the Voodoo 5, appears to be working again, xD

Haven't booted it in some time. Been playing to much Saints Row The Third.
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Very kewl. :D

SR3 is probably one of my favorite games to come out in the last few years.

Heh, just noticed I was quoting the wrong person about the Voodoo5 issue. Facepalm.
 
flamex said:
You could tabletop the board and run it outside a case to test the card.
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fer sher but I thought you were the one with the sad v5. I think I was confusikated. ;) but looks like it's better now. :)
 
:D Nice topic :D

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This is my setup:
Asus p3b-f
p3 500mhz
512mb mem
awe64gold isa :D:D
matrox g450 32mb (will be swapped for a matrox g400max :) )
Voodoo2 sli :cool::cool:
Netgear nic (will be swapped for a 3com)
promise fasttrak tx2000 (a bit to new but its nice to have more ide ports)

Case Aopen hq45 <- which i gonna casemod :)

Youtube: Retro Gaming Machine build introduction 3DFX Voodoo2 sli

Youtube: Project Freeman: November 2012 update: Hardware complete and the begin of the Casemod

I have a buildlog but not on this forum. X
 
very nice, I love how no one ever bitches when this thread is necroed

edit/ the cat checking for burrs on your casemod was great
 
Nice machine :) how does the awe64 do in dos games? I've been looking into building a good dos machine and looking into which sound card will work the best with the midi games. The awe has come up along with the Yamaha cards with yer opl 3 chip
 
VictorB said:
Youtube: Retro Gaming Machine build introduction 3DFX Voodoo2 sli

Youtube: Project Freeman: November 2012 update: Hardware complete and the begin of the Casemod

I have a buildlog but not on this forum. X
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I made a comment on your youtube video about having the Voodoo5 5500 card and you had asked if I had a picture of it. Instead of posting again on youtube, I figured I would just post it here.
I will get pictures of the what the completed computer looks later.
The youtube user name was Valdarious
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jojo69 said:
what would you consider the best PCI card for DOS?
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The problem is, this depends on the game. I've been doing research on titles for this for DOSBox. A few of the soundcards had their own custom sound files / methodology that sounded better. If the game supported it correctly, it was better.

The most popular / well supported / widely supported is probably one of the early Sound Blasters. The best sounding of those, I believe, is the ones (IIRC) with the Yamaha OPL3 based-chip. Some newer titles that supported the AWE64 or the sound Gravis Ultrasound. Others with Sound Blaster or Ensoniq.

I think the biggest thing is midi support - knowing which games properly have Roland MT32 support. That requires an MT32 and a sound card. I really want to do this setup with DOSbox down the road.
 
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I will look again tonight when I get back to the house. I want to say I have an ISA Turtle beach card in mine. Not sure on DOS support since I do not really play DOS games. Mostly stuff like GLQuake, Dungeon Keeper, Die By the Sword, Star Wars games and some other 3Dfx stuff.
 
For thos interested a real interesting piece of 3dfx hardware went up on Ebay..

there was a group that was modifying the voodoo5 5500 and 4500 to double the onboard ram (installing higher density chips)

looks like someone is selling one of their modified 4500's

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3dfx-modded...041?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item25783e2ea1

for info the voodoo5 5500 can be modified to have 128mb of ram (64/vsa100)

kindof neat
 
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awe64 gold..... oh what memories. I loved the RCA outs on that one. :D
 
I'll be putting one together soon.

Parts list;

Tyan 1854 (Some one threw away my Asus P3B-F!!!!!!)
P III 800
256MB corsair PC133
Yamaha CD-RW
WD 30GB drive
3Dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP I modded it by attaching a 60mm Delta to the heat sink.
Sound Blaster AWE 32 with add on memory or SB Live
I do have a Lian Li PC-60 for it but I'm seriously thinking about rack mounting it.
I don't have a CRT laying around but I do have a Samsung 214T LCD to use with it.
Any suggestions or critique?
 
I wonder if my old dually pIII would still work now... it's only been in the garage for 8 years.. multiple garages and some not that well protected. :eek:
 
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That is interesting, I'd never heard of this being done on those cards. I remember people did the same sort of thing with the Dell x50v PDA I used to own years back. You could pay a tech guru $200 to have the ram doubled from 64mb to 128mb and void your warranty, and plenty of people did.

If I recall, one of the guys in our office has a Voodoo 6000 somewhere. If he still does I'm jealous as hell, that card was damn cool for being such a far out design. I like to think we share a lot of the same affinity for outside-the-box thinking with our own cards today.
 
Galaxy said:
That is interesting, I'd never heard of this being done on those cards. I remember people did the same sort of thing with the Dell x50v PDA I used to own years back. You could pay a tech guru $200 to have the ram doubled from 64mb to 128mb and void your warranty, and plenty of people did.

If I recall, one of the guys in our office has a Voodoo 6000 somewhere. If he still does I'm jealous as hell, that card was damn cool for being such a far out design. I like to think we share a lot of the same affinity for outside-the-box thinking with our own cards today.
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Did he run any benchies to see if there was an improvement in going from 32 to 64?
LOL.. i still have v2 5500..
 
revenant said:
I wonder if my old dually pIII would still work now... it's only been in the garage for 8 years.. multiple garages and some not that well protected. :eek:
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I hope it does.

I was just offered an Abit BP6 with dual 900s. I'm going to go for it. I'll just have to install Windows 2000 to take advantage of SMP.
 
Zohar78 said:
Did he run any benchies to see if there was an improvement in going from 32 to 64?
LOL.. i still have v2 5500..
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The Voodoo 6000 came with 128mb if I remember right. Either way there were only about a thousand prototypes made which are still highly sought after. I sure as hell wouldn't mod mine if I had one.

I myself never had a Voodoo 5 back in the day. My last 3dfx card was a Voodoo 3500 before moving on to a GeForce 2, which was a pretty formidable beast of a card itself at the time. I remember how amazed I was to be able to run Half-Life in 1280x960.

The Voodoo 3500 was still cool though because it had a TV-out in a time when you just did not see PC games on a 27" TV. You got a sort of free antialiasing out of it too since the image quality was shite.
 
Galaxy said:
The Voodoo 6000 came with 128mb if I remember right. Either way there were only about a thousand prototypes made which are still highly sought after. I sure as hell wouldn't mod mine if I had one.

I myself never had a Voodoo 5 back in the day. My last 3dfx card was a Voodoo 3500 before moving on to a GeForce 2, which was a pretty formidable beast of a card itself at the time. I remember how amazed I was to be able to run Half-Life in 1280x960.

The Voodoo 3500 was still cool though because it had a TV-out in a time when you just did not see PC games on a 27" TV. You got a sort of free antialiasing out of it too since the image quality was shite.
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Radeon VIVO 64mb DDR was a GREAT card for it's time.
 
Galaxy said:
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Oops. quoted the wrong person..Yeah the v5 6000 had 128, four voodoo chips with 32mb. I meant to quote the guy that posted the v5 4500 32 to 64. I was just wandering if it did anything.
I went from a tnt 1 with voodoo2 sli to a geforce 2 with sli. then eventually pulled the sli out because most games by that time ran fine on geforce 2. Geforce 2 was a bomb ass card.
 
I decided to go back and visit my machine to see the specs and to start up some DK2 for old times sake. Found out I no longer have a PS2 mouse and keyboard and had to jerry rig something until those come in the mail on Friday. I found out I do indeed have a SB16 in it and it is not a P2 333 but an AMD Athlon 1000. Not sure on the model I can look it again later. I have an Abit Kt7-raid mobo and I was looking at the 3dfx tools and found it is only working at AGP X1. Anyone know a good AMD board that has the maximum AGP unlock? Was it x2 or x4? I can't remember that far back, lol.


I just went back and decided to peruse over mobo manual and found a switch to change to agp x4 mode. I will try it when I get back to the house. I really need to do even more research before posting, lol.
 
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Occidio said:
I decided to go back and visit my machine to see the specs and to start up some DK2 for old times sake. Found out I no longer have a PS2 mouse and keyboard and had to jerry rig something until those come in the mail on Friday. I found out I do indeed have a SB16 in it and it is not a P2 333 but an AMD Athlon 1000. Not sure on the model I can look it again later. I have an Abit Kt7-raid mobo and I was looking at the 3dfx tools and found it is only working at AGP X1. Anyone know a good AMD board that has the maximum AGP unlock? Was it x2 or x4? I can't remember that far back, lol.


I just went back and decided to peruse over mobo manual and found a switch to change to agp x4 mode. I will try it when I get back to the house. I really need to do even more research before posting, lol.
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Don't bother with the AGP Speed..

3dfx never used any of the AGP features.. they pretty much just used AGP as the port but ran everything as if it was on the PCI bus. AGP1x or AGP4x won't matter really for 3dfx cards
 
Just a bit of a thread revive, i just ordered a Second Pure3d 2 (finally found one!) to go SLI with my Spectra 2500 (WitchDoctor!!)

while reading up i found a couple of bits of info i found interesting.

First from 3dfx Voodoo4/5 FAQ - I love 3dfx technology but the below is kindof ridiculous :)

FAQ said:
34. Can you overclock Voodoo4 or Voodoo5?

Any component that has a clock, can be overclocked. However, with Voodoo4 and Voodoo5, the performance is so superior that there is no need to overclock. We guarantee stability at the shipped clock rate.
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and the next is from the same

FAQ said:
22. Is this the new architecture you have been promising, or another derivative of the Voodoo graphics architecture?

The VSA-100 is based on the Voodoo graphics architecture and incorporates a multitude of new features, enhancements, optimizations and technology. These include Full-Scene Anti-Aliasing (FSAA), T-Buffer™, FXT1™, 32-bit color, 64MB memory, 2K X 2K textures, etc. See our Voodoo4 and Voodoo5 product sections for comprehensive lists of features and benefits.
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it know they kept building on the same architecture but it never dawned on me that the VSA-100 (Voodoo 4/5) really was still built on the same as the Voodoo1 (albeit heavy modified).

It really makes me a little sad that they enver lasted long enough for the RAGE chipset to make it out, which would have been their first architecture update in 4 generations of chips. Although from what i gather the technology is the SAGE chip ended up being the basis for the Geforce 4 chips..
 
H-street said:
Just a bit of a thread revive, i just ordered a Second Pure3d 2 (finally found one!) to go SLI with my Spectra 2500 (WitchDoctor!!)
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Dude, you should open a museum or something.

I'd be interested to see some benches before and after when you get it. IIRC, even several generations later there was only a ~30% gain to be had from a second card even in optimized applications.

Also, wow, I can just imagine if we had released our GTX 680 and said "the performance is so superior that there is no need to overclock." That would go over well around here today.
 
my 2nd Pure3d 2 just came in last night..

here is a really bad picture, but i couldn't wait i had to test it out.. This is the ultimate Witchdoctor Setup!!! I had to make my own witchdoctor cable and my own SLI Cable (The pure3d SLI setup requires a longer cable since its in the middle of the card instead of on the top)

For information, the Witchdoctor setup used a Digital Passthrough for the Voodoo cards instead of the Analog passthrough.

Specs

Spectra 2500 (TNT) Witch Doctor
2x Pure3d II in SLI
Audigy 1 sound card
Amd Athlon 800Mhz
256Mb of Ram
Win98SE

This setup is now being moved to an Intel Pentium 3 1000Mhz on an Asus CUSL2 Black Pearl board with 512Mb of ram due to it having more pci slots (you can see my cards are a little crowded in this setup) More testing and more pictures this weekend :)

pure3dSLI_1.jpg

pure3dSLI_2.jpg
 
H-street said:
my 2nd Pure3d 2 just came in last night..

here is a really bad picture, but i couldn't wait i had to test it out.. This is the ultimate Witchdoctor Setup!!! I had to make my own witchdoctor cable and my own SLI Cable (The pure3d SLI setup requires a longer cable since its in the middle of the card instead of on the top)

For information, the Witchdoctor setup used a Digital Passthrough for the Voodoo cards instead of the Analog passthrough.

Specs

Spectra 2500 (TNT) Witch Doctor
2x Pure3d II in SLI
Audigy 1 sound card
Amd Athlon 800Mhz
256Mb of Ram
Win98SE

This setup is now being moved to an Intel Pentium 3 1000Mhz on an Asus CUSL2 Black Pearl board with 512Mb of ram due to it having more pci slots (you can see my cards are a little crowded in this setup) More testing and more pictures this weekend :)

[img ]http://www.fifthelement.net/3dfxPC/pure3dSLI_1.jpg[/img]
[img ]http://www.fifthelement.net/3dfxPC/pure3dSLI_2.jpg[/img]
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Pin mod a PIII 1.4S for that CUSL2 BP :)

Jealous of the Spectra setup. I still need to get back to putting Win98 SE on a OCZ 30GB SSD. ZOOM...
 
This reminds me of the John Titor story...you aren't a time traveler are you?
 
nice... I have two voodoo2 SLI rigs in my office now... time for some voodoo2 sli lan deathmatch. :eek:
 
Bumpin this up.

Got a set of Creative Voodoo 2s. Also, got a 733Mhz PIII, 256mb RAM, Geforce 2 and 20GB Hard drive on the way.


Anyway one got any updates to their stuff?
 
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