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MiG31_Foxhound said:
It means you don't have to have played it when it first came out to experience it. Well, I'm sure you'll counter that to "properly" experience it, you do. However, I've played plenty of games through services like Steam that I missed because they came out "before my time" and some of them fare better than others. Doom is nothing spectacular. Never has been.
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I think the point is that new players cant experience them in relation to other games of their time. The experience will be different. New players compare them to other games that built upon the shoulders of giants, whereas Doom was the giant, the shooter of its time. Doom was spectacular and caused endless sequels, clones, copies and user mods. It still holds up well today if you install a modern engine like Doomsday.

And it was the same for the quakes. If you were a gamer back then, you bought a Voodoo to play Quake because it drove the tech and was pretty much the best thing out. Or a Voodoo2 to play Quake2. After that the genre diversified with Half Life, Unreal, etc.

Personally for single-player I think Q1 with some newer graphics mods (darkplaces) holds up the best out of the series. Still has the same spooky atmosphere (modern lighting+shadows really help), NIN music and lightning-fast pace. Doom being a close second, then Q4, Q2 a distant 'meh' and D3 not even registering.
 
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LOL at people saying Doom was anything short of spectacular. Back in those days, Doom made everything else its bitch. I remember lugging around 286s on weekends to friends and playing MP over goddamn parallel ports for fucks sake.
 
^^ lol.. that's dedication. :)

Yep.. Doom was the shit... if you weren't a gamer during it's time or just didn't like FPS games I guess I can understand people not realizing the impact it had on the gaming scene... for me I guess it was the first game which really felt like stepping into a virtual sci-fi world with enough realism (for the time) so really feel like I was in the game.. really took things to the next level for me... then I got network play happening and wow.. we had 4 PCs in our house cabled up with BNC and played non stop in all our free time for months... downloading new DM wads during the day, playing them at night.. rinse repeat.. on weekends our house was full of friends waiting to take turns on one of the PCs.. tons o fun..
 
Yeah Doom was the abosolute shit back in the day, and it definitely kick-started the genre and influenced nearly every FPS that followed in the next decade.

The point that some are poorly trying to make by ragging on Doom is that Id haven't advanced any kinds of gameplay mechanics since Doom and Quake. This is mainly due to the fact that since Quake 3 Arena they've released one sole game - which according to Id is essentially a remake of Doom (i.e. attempt to stamp out all evidence that Romero ever worked on Id games by remaking Doom as more Carmack sci-fi wank) rather than a proper sequel.

It has been a very long time between drinks for Id, with Quake 3 being the last good game, and the original Quake (and at a huge stretch maybe Quake II) being the last good SP game from the developer. The FPS genre has evolved several times over during that time, so I can't help but think Id has been left behind.
 
The last iD game that I thought was truly great was RTCW. Doom 3 wasn't bad,but somehow it lacked something. I felt it didn't have the attitude of the original,where you were a badass Marine blasting your way through everything. It felt too much like a horror survival game. Doom was the game that got me hooked on PC gaming,as well as upgrading. One of the best aspects of it were the mods and conversions,dozens of them.Some were good,some were bad,some were outright hilarious.
 
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