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R600 Pics

That thing is ridiculous. I hope it's not the real thing. Or at least not the final version of the real thing.
 
Holy crap!! And here we were with all the discussions about the 8800GTX's length....that thing makes the 8800GTX look small... :eek:



Good luck finding a case that fits that!!


(I hope that's not a legitimate card...that thing's size is just obscene)
 
According to VR-Zone, that should be the OEM version, for system builders. We'll get a shorter version. At least, that's what these rumors say.
I'm more worried about the power that they say it consumes: 270 W...ouch. Hope it's not true.
 
That fan setup adds about 1/3 to its length... IF that is a legit pic, I would like to think that ATI and other venders will have a more size efficient cooling solution.

Hell, go water and your problem is solved....

Performance specs do me better than a picture..
 
With a card that size, they will certainly take the crown in Bungholiomark:
 
agree about wanting some performance numbers and such.

It is funny that The Inq was pretty spot on (or was it VR-Zone) a few weeks back about the size of the card and layout of the cooler.

Regardless consuming 270w(or even 240w) is out of hand. You can run a whole mid-range system on that much juice.

Performance per watt numbers may be one way of telling how "efficient" a card can run but when it uses 240w to do it I think it's time we take a step back.

Absurd comes to mind
 
The Gonz said:
agree about wanting some performance numbers and such.

It is funny that The Inq was pretty spot on (or was it VR-Zone) a few weeks back about the size of the card and layout of the cooler.

Regardless consuming 270w(or even 240w) is out of hand. You can run a whole mid-range system on that much juice.

Performance per watt numbers may be one way of telling how "efficient" a card can run but when it uses 240w to do it I think it's time we take a step back.

Absurd comes to mind
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QFT!
 
There is more of a market for raw power than there is for energy efficiency, probably 1000:1. Obviously this is flip-flopped for laptops.. but with the R600 so delayed behind the 8800 series.. they have to answer with something that mops the floor with the 8800 in terms of performance.. regardless of how much power it consumes.
 
Yes, this does look like an OEM HSF. Notice the bland, boxy style and the fact that the original sticker was left on the axial fan. It also does seem like the card itself is not nearly as long as the HSF -- the PCB seems to "end" precisely where the fan "starts".

The back of the card looks shockingly similar to that of my X1900. The X1900s, of course, only have a single fan header, while this one seems to have two, in addition to the two power connectors. The regular 8-pin molex seems like something that would be used with OEM machines with only one PCI-e 6-pin power connector on the PSU.

The power consumption estimation seems about right, given the connectors. That's one spicy meatball.
 
LOL I might need a new PSU to feed that meatball. Looks nice though. Even without numbers I want one :p

btw the actual length of the card doesnt seem that long. In fact I would say its shorter than the 8800GTX judging by the PCIE connector.
 
it's 270 watts for the oem, which is pictured in the above link. Thats beyond WTF?, that's 2x 8800gts's in sli.
 
Fake. It looks like someone attached(or placed) some spare parts on a RAID card and used photoshop to make more changes including card color.
 
Attention shoppers, If your case supports dual PSU's NOW is the time to act.. Get yours before March, April, May.. whenever the R600 shows.... Don't get bogged down with a whimpy 1kW PSU... be the first on your block to have two.. thats right.. two 750w PSU running in SLI (or X-fire in this case).

Don't be left out in the cold. If one is good, two is better...
 
Oh my lord... power consumption huge, card huge (it seems to end about where the fan starts, indeed)... this thing better perform :eek: ! Hopefully the performance will be huge to match ;)! 24-watt fan also means likely the noise is huge :(!

MrFace said:
Fake. It looks like someone attached(or placed) some spare parts on a RAID card and used photoshop to make more changes including card color.
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This matches the sketches and rumors of the card's look and length. Please show something to deem this fake that isn't opposed by reliable sources' evidence.

HyperTension said:
Attention shoppers, If your case supports dual PSU's NOW is the time to act.. Get yours before March, April, May.. whenever the R600 shows.... Don't get bogged down with a whimpy 1kW PSU... be the first on your block to have two.. thats right.. two 750w PSU running in SLI (or X-fire in this case).

Don't be left out in the cold. If one is good, two is better...
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LOL!
 
I am an ATI fan boy, but that is one big ugly card!!!!

I really hope that it is a fake. Seriously.
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
There is more of a market for raw power than there is for energy efficiency, probably 1000:1. Obviously this is flip-flopped for laptops.. but with the R600 so delayed behind the 8800 series.. they have to answer with something that mops the floor with the 8800 in terms of performance.. regardless of how much power it consumes.
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I agree that AMD needs to come back with a monster card of their own for PR purposes.
I just hope that consumers start to realize the trend we are on and vote with their wallets.

If Intel can create the Conroe chip to run faster AND cooler at the same operating frequencies as netburst then I certainly hope the Green team and the former Red now other Green team jump on that bandwagon.
 
phatjedi said:
I am an ATI fan boy, but that is one big ugly card!!!!

I really hope that it is a fake. Seriously.
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I hope it's fake too... that would not be good for the video card market in general competition-wise :(.
 
Without the huge cooler on the end, looks the same size as a GTX to me.
Don't see what the big deal is...
 
That's_Corporate said:
Without the huge cooler on the end, looks the same size as a GTX to me.
Don't see what the big deal is...
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If rumors are true, that is the OEM version, *not* the consumer-level one's heatsink (which should be far smaller)... so yeah, probably about the size of a GTX (which is pretty darn long on its own), thankfully. The real question is, with that much power draw, how loud is the cooler going to be? Hopefully the performance is worth it :).
 
GoldenTiger said:
Oh my lord... power consumption huge, card huge (it seems to end about where the fan starts, indeed)... this thing better perform :eek: ! Hopefully the performance will be huge to match ;)! 24-watt fan also means likely the noise is huge :(!



This matches the sketches and rumors of the card's look and length. Please show something to deem this fake that isn't opposed by reliable sources' evidence.



LOL!
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Look at the parts on the card. Also notice the product number of the blower was covered...

The cooler looks like a nvidia cooler that someone plopped on top of a card. The handle on the end is akin to ones on server SCSI/RAID cards.

Proof of "reliable source" evidence?
 
That's_Corporate said:
Without the huge cooler on the end, looks the same size as a GTX to me.
Don't see what the big deal is...
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The big deal in reality since the size will be smaller for the retail version is the amount of power this thing consumes.

Assuming it can achieve the same performance per watt as the 8800 series this will defeat those cards solely based on how many watts this thing chews up.

Think of it like this.
Nvidia puts 2 6-pin power connects on their GTX. People scoff at first but come to accept it.

The fact that this card uses a as yet unreleased power connector says to me that AMD thought twice about using 3 6-pin power connectors.

3 6-pin power connectors would supply a maximum of 300w to the card
75 watts from the PCIe slot and 75 watts per connector.

This fits pretty nicely with the figures that this card uses betweeb 240w and 270w.

Sorry but to me thats a big deal. Pay $600 for a card and a ton more in electrical bills.
YMMV
 
It's all good.
My DX10 rig will have so many PSU's it'll start glowing and give me cancer in 3 years.
I'm all about WC'ing anyways, so the stock heatsink/fan is of no relevance to me.
 
Makes you wonder if this will cause a repeat of the Xbox360/PS3 issue.

PS3(R600) come out with a hefty price tag causing the competition X360(G80) to giggle like little school girls and not lower their prices since they are now the cheaper deal in town.

I certainly hope I am wrong as a price war is always fun for us.
Water cooling will solve the size issue but I am still floored by those power numbers.

Consequently, does anyone know what a PS3/Xbox 360 pulls in terms of watts?
 
MrFace said:
The cooler looks like a nvidia cooler that someone plopped on top of a card. The handle on the end is akin to ones on server SCSI/RAID cards.
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It's not a handle. It's an extender that is meant to mate with the cardholders in the back of some cases. Most server cases have them, and most desktop/tower cases used to have them, but don't anymore. It doesn't look anything like any NVIDIA cooler I've ever seen, except for the heat-pipes are reminiscent of the 7900 GTX, I suppose.
 
The Gonz said:
Makes you wonder if this will cause a repeat of the Xbox360/PS3 issue.

PS3(R600) come out with a hefty price tag causing the competition X360(G80) to giggle like little school girls and not lower their prices since they are now the cheaper deal in town.

I certainly hope I am wrong as a price war is always fun for us.
Water cooling will solve the size issue but I am still floored by those power numbers.

Consequently, does anyone know what a PS3/Xbox 360 pulls in terms of watts?
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You've got that backwards. The 360 uses a scaled down version of the R600 and the PS3 uses a G70/G80 variation called the RSX.
 
pls dont let this be real -.-
would never fit in my case, have to get some serious aftermarket cooling
 
trxjw said:
You've got that backwards. The 360 uses a scaled down version of the R600 and the PS3 uses a G70/G80 variation called the RSX.
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You misunderstood me. I was not referring to the hardware contained inside the machines but rather trying to create a metaphor.

The way the PS3 debuted at such a high price causing the 360 to maintain it's price is the way the 8800 series cards will maintain their price if this huge beast of a card from AMD debuts for some crazy amount.
 
the card in its full length is rumoured to be @ 12.5" which puts it at .5" longer then a GTX? also what are the power requirements for the GTX, orignally the rumour for that was 300w wasnt it?
 
trxjw said:
You've got that backwards. The 360 uses a scaled down version of the R600 and the PS3 uses a G70/G80 variation called the RSX.
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correct^^

Also.. anyone who should be able to afford this card should also be able to spare a few extra bucks towards the power bill each month.. not like someone's going to go buy a $600 video card and be like, "omgosh, I can't take the added $5 a month!"
 
Oh4Sh0 said:
correct^^

Also.. anyone who should be able to afford this card should also be able to spare a few extra bucks towards the power bill each month.. not like someone's going to go buy a $600 video card and be like, "omgosh, I can't take the added $5 a month!"
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I would tend to agree with you about the affording the electric bill.
Of course though this does beg the question. When does it become too much?

Does a 300w VGA card cross the line? 400w or 500w?
When you need to run 2 plugs into your 2.5 Kw power supply to feed it the necessary amps does it become to much?
When we all have little nuclear plants in the den does it become too much? :eek:

I suppose the answer will be different for everyone and it is more rhetorical than anything else. I don't like where things are headed.
That power has to come/be created from somewhere.
 
The Gonz said:
I would tend to agree with you about the affording the electric bill.
Of course though this does beg the question. When does it become too much?

Does a 300w VGA card cross the line? 400w or 500w?
When you need to run 2 plugs into your 2.5 Kw power supply to feed it the necessary amps does it become to much?
When we all have little nuclear plants in the den does it become too much? :eek:

I suppose the answer will be different for everyone and it is more rhetorical than anything else. I don't like where things are headed.
That power has to come/be created from somewhere.
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I think it is time we start holding other component manufacturers to the same efficiency standards as power supply manufacturers. Among other things, many PSUs are now graded on efficiency of power consumption. Why are board and chip makers not measured by the same stick?
 
Mark_Warner said:
I think it is time we start holding other component manufacturers to the same efficiency standards as power supply manufacturers. Among other things, many PSUs are now graded on efficiency of power consumption. Why are board and chip makers not measured by the same stick?
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I whole heartedly agree. Perhaps efficiency ratings would do well to differentiate products.
The way food products list nutrition information it would be nice to look on the side of a box and know how much power this card uses, what amperage it requires, how efficient it is, etc etc etc.

Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable then I can answer this.
If Intel was able to cut down power leakage and increase efficiency with its Conroe core are VGA manufacturers able to rework their designs to accomplish something similar or is the VGA architecture as efficient as it can become?
 
This is getting out of control, needing a small electrical substation. Be like turning on the computer and the your house lights dim for a second.

Computer hardware vs oil prices....theres no limit.
 
Blazemore said:
This is getting out of control, needing a small electrical substation. Be like turning on the computer and the your house lights dim for a second. /QUOTE]


my old 21CRT quite litteraly had that effect.... freaking love my 21" lcd now.

as for the card its self, the thing looks insane. i sure hope it runs as fast as its been hyped to.
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