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PS3 Connection Test:Wired vs Wireless

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Can anyone explain why I get 7-8mbps on the PS3 via WiFi but get 14-15mbps when its connected directly to the router via a cable?

*Firmware is updated on router and PS3
*Router is 3ft away from console
*Router is 600mbps (300mbps x 2 dual band)
*Tested 2 different working routers

I listed those facts because every thread I found online blamed firmware, distance, or the router lol. Any advice would be appreciated:)
 
I can't tell if you're trolling or not...

You can't figure out why you get a higher throughput via a wired connection vs a wireless one?

Wired connection is almost always going to be better/faster regardless of how close you are. Wireless G (which is what PS3 is) maxes out at 54mb/s while gigabit ethernet (which PS3 is) goes up to 1000mb/s. Even if it's hooked up to a 100mb/s router, it's still better and preferred over wireless. Wired is also not as susceptible to interference like Wireless is which means it has a better chance of reaching it's theoretical limit.

What you are describing seems normal.
 
ocellaris said:
Because the PS3 wifi isn't very good.
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this.

Wifi on the PS3 has sucked since day one. I've gone through a few different routers (not the $20 special deals, either) and I have never gotten wifi to an acceptable levels.

Lots of threads have said the same thing over the years...
 
daemonmf said:
I can't tell if you're trolling or not...

You can't figure out why you get a higher throughput via a wired connection vs a wireless one?

Wired connection is almost always going to be better/faster regardless of how close you are. Wireless G (which is what PS3 is) maxes out at 54mb/s while gigabit ethernet (which PS3 is) goes up to 1000mb/s. Even if it's hooked up to a 100mb/s router, it's still better and preferred over wireless. Wired is also not as susceptible to interference like Wireless is which means it has a better chance of reaching it's theoretical limit.

What you are describing seems normal.
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Not trolling :)

I guess I just need to pick up my intro to networking book and reread it. I understand that there are factors that affect the WiFi speed but I don't understand why an adapter capable of receiving up to 54mbps is only receiving 7mbps of a 20mbps connection. The desktop and laptop in the home have Wireless N and of course receive around 18mbps but it still seems strange that Wireless G can't at least reach that...considering its capable of 54mbps.
 
Same issue here; my old 80GB model is the same on both, but my new slim has MASSIVE latency spikes that give it an effective 1Mbit download rate. I believe the problem is that the PS3 wireless antenna is, frankly, aged, and not well supported anymore. It is a known problem though.
 
i have found the wireless on my ps3 to be rather good on my new slim (not super slim). my old fat was slow never better than 3 to 6 mb and that is on a 50mb comcast business class conection.
i get an average 12 down 4 up with my slim.
but i also have a old wrt54g dedicated to the PS3 it works best with very specific settings.

my network is set up different than the average i have a wired dgl-4100 that handles all ip reservation and qos then a dir-855 that handles wireless 2.4g/n and 5ghz n simultaneously and then the wrt54g that does 2.4b/g for PS3 / 3DS / PSPgo


ps3 works best wireless with wpa personal tkip ONLY and a beacon interval of 75 not the default 100 fragmentation threshold at 2306 and rts threshold at 2307 these are the settings i use on that wrt54g and my ps3 downloads and plays as fast as shitty psn allows.
 
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ocellaris said:
Because the PS3 wifi isn't very good.
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daemonmf said:
I can't tell if you're trolling or not...
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No, he's not trolling. The Ps3 wifi sucks. I've lost count of how many System Updates that have failed over wireless that I've had to hook up a cat5 for. My system is literally no more than 15 feet from my WRT54G and it obviously gets shit for bandwidth. Oddly enough I can go to the other end of the house with my laptop getting 4 bars probably 60 feet away and pull my rated 18Mbps U-Verse speed. :rolleyes:
 
Always ignore advertisers and there throughput speeds they claim on routers. A $200 450mbps N router under ideal conditions will be lucky to pull 45mbps , wireless sucks at throughput period. Ethernet on the other hand has no conditional concerns like walls , interference and crosstalk between channels.

I always recommend Ethernet unless its just not practical. If you can keep your PS3 hooked up to Ethernet , then do so. You'll get better throughput and a better ping.
 
Just so I understand, I will continue to get 7-8mbps via wifi regardless of the service I pay for? Whether its 20mbps or 100mbps, the PS3 will still only see the 7-8mbps?
 
That is most likely correct. You have to think of networking as a bunch of linked chains and that chain can only hold as much as its weakest link. In this case, your Wifi and PSN are going to be the weakest links. You've tested this by trying both wifi and wired and shown that the wifi is the weak link.

Since you said the PS3 is next to the router, it begs the question "why not just wire it up and not care?" I think that your OCD is kicking in and wants to both get rid of the wire and maintain the speed, which is not likely to happen.

If you really want a little faster wifi with your PS3, get a wireless n wifi ethernet adapter such as this and pair it with a wireless n access point. Though from experience, you are still not likely to get speeds as good as a wired 100/1000 connection, but it will be better than wireless g.
 
daemonmf said:
I can't tell if you're trolling or not...

You can't figure out why you get a higher throughput via a wired connection vs a wireless one?

Wired connection is almost always going to be better/faster regardless of how close you are. Wireless G (which is what PS3 is) maxes out at 54mb/s while gigabit ethernet (which PS3 is) goes up to 1000mb/s. Even if it's hooked up to a 100mb/s router, it's still better and preferred over wireless. Wired is also not as susceptible to interference like Wireless is which means it has a better chance of reaching it's theoretical limit.

What you are describing seems normal.
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He's not kidding the PS3 wifi sucks a huge donkey nut... My router is in the living room and my bedroom is RIGHT ABOVE IT and the 360 runs circles around the PS3 when using wirless. It is litterally 1 floor and less than 12 ft between the router (linksys- runs in mixed mode G/N) and the PS3. The 360 sits on the shelf directly above it.

360 is a Jasper with an orignal white 54mbps G adapter and the PS3 is the original 120GB slim model.

For comparison my Dell Vostro 3450 with a Cintrino locks in at 300mps and my HD2 and HD7 lock in at 150mbps. The Wii sitting to the right of both consoles gets 54mbps. The 360 also gets 54mbps.

Router logs show that the PS3 signal is all over the place where as the rest are fairly steady...
 
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Decided to leave it wired as I mentioned before. I also upgraded from 20mbps to 30mbps with my provider. 20mbps was giving me about 14-15 at the ps3 and the new 30mbps is giving me about 19-20mbps. I was expecting 24-25mbps at minimum. Oh well.
 
Never had an issue with my PS3 wifi and I have the original Fat 80GB backwards compatible.
Its been the best console I have ever purchased!
 
Aratech said:
Decided to leave it wired as I mentioned before. I also upgraded from 20mbps to 30mbps with my provider. 20mbps was giving me about 14-15 at the ps3 and the new 30mbps is giving me about 19-20mbps. I was expecting 24-25mbps at minimum. Oh well.
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sounds like they are ripping you off if you are paying for 30 and only getting 20.
 
NastyNative said:
Never had an issue with my PS3 wifi and I have the original Fat 80GB backwards compatible.
Its been the best console I have ever purchased!
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This isn't really a problem it's just a slow nic and all the PS3's are the same. Though my new slim is noticeably faster than my old fat model. Its mostly the PlayStation network that sucks as far as speed goes. I'm on a 50mb Comcast business plan and have full gigabit and a house wired in cat 6 and wired or wireless the ps3 is much slower than say my Xbox at downloading anything. Even my Wii u wireless is faster.
 
HisSvt76 said:
No no no. That is what the ps3 is pulling down because of the nic in it.
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well with 20 meg he got 15 but with 30 meg he got 20 so that sounds like he is simply not getting the speed he is paying for to me.

personally I think the PS3 is a cheaply made noisy pos. mine froze up just a few minutes ago when trying to start the Dead Space 3 demo.
 
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cannondale06 said:
well with 20 meg he got 15 but with 30 meg he got 20 so that sounds like he is simply not getting the speed he is paying for to me.

personally I think the PS3 is cheaply a made noisy pos. mine froze up just a few minutes ago when trying to start the Dead Space 3 demo.
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That what my fat model did right before it ylod on me. On my 50mb connection all my devices pull down my rated speed and better but not the PS3 best its ever done is 20 to 30 in its speed test PSN is just slow its Sony's network was like that back when I played eq2 on their network. You get what you pay for. The only problem with that is I pay 50 a year for plus so I guess I'm just paying for the games and discounts.
 
54Mbs wireless is probably half-duplex, which means you're actually only getting 27Mbs one way. Toss in TCP/IP overhead (5-10% loss, real world around 20%) then wireless signal loss (which can be significant & doesn't always improve just because you're closer), I can see 8Mbs.

When you move to a wired lan connection (Full duplex) over cable (which is probably 15-30Mbs), you're only going to see the TCP/IP loss, no wireless loss.
 
My PS3 was <5 ft from a router (through a thin wall, but still) and wifi was unusable. I couldn't even update the firmware without a physical link to the router. This is "normal" for PS3s.
 
Rizen said:
My PS3 was <5 ft from a router (through a thin wall, but still) and wifi was unusable. I couldn't even update the firmware without a physical link to the router. This is "normal" for PS3s.
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My router was on the other side of the house, going through many walls. Worked just fine for me.
 
Kinsaras said:
My router was on the other side of the house, going through many walls. Worked just fine for me.
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What generation PS3 did you have? I tried everything to get it to work and putting it on the DMZ and turning off all of the firewalls on my routers improved the problem, but speeds were still incredibly slow. Connecting it directly via CAT6 to the router resolved the issue completely.

All of my other devices (multiple PCs, phones, tablets, 3DS, Wii, WiiU etc) work fine. Only the PS3 has problems.
 
802.11g has physical layer throughput of 54 Mbps; This does not represent the actual throughput you're going to see, not only because of pathloss issues, but also 802.11 overhead (turbo coding, error correction, integrity, etc). Overhead alone can lower application layer throughput up to 40% (i.e. on LTE 10 MHz with 2x2 MIMO, max PHY throughput is 100 Mbps, but actual Application layer throughput maxes around 60-70).
 
Rizen said:
What generation PS3 did you have? I tried everything to get it to work and putting it on the DMZ and turning off all of the firewalls on my routers improved the problem, but speeds were still incredibly slow. Connecting it directly via CAT6 to the router resolved the issue completely.

All of my other devices (multiple PCs, phones, tablets, 3DS, Wii, WiiU etc) work fine. Only the PS3 has problems.
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The old fat PS3, 80GB that came with the MGS4 Bundle.
 
HisSvt76 said:
This isn't really a problem it's just a slow nic and all the PS3's are the same. Though my new slim is noticeably faster than my old fat model. Its mostly the PlayStation network that sucks as far as speed goes. I'm on a 50mb Comcast business plan and have full gigabit and a house wired in cat 6 and wired or wireless the ps3 is much slower than say my Xbox at downloading anything. Even my Wii u wireless is faster.
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What ever the nic is or what the PSN is doing is fine by me. Never had an issue with MP games or with downloading content. Its just as fast as my Xbox and I dont give Sony montly premiums for internet I already pay for. My Xbox is now a DVD player.
Also USA is # 18 in the world in Internet Speed. Check out Korea those fuckers get something like 100mb+ speeds. So unless I see or feel the difference while playing MP or my downloads I dont give a shit what PS3 wifi equiptment is. It works and its free!

Also all you YLOD guys need to learn to take care of your shit!
Had my PS3 since release with out any issues because I take care of my shit!
Stop sticking it in confined spaces and once it burned up blaming it on the company instead or your stupidity!
 
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