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I'm done with PC gaming. Sold my 2080 ti for ~$1730 and an adata m.2 ssd that I had bought recently for gaming storage for ~$385 (bought for $205), I guess it's chasing chia now... I'll be back probably in 1.5-2 years. Tired of waiting for a good gaming monitor which is the key part of the whole system. Also the lack of 3000 series on the market adds to that.
My current phone, the Nubia Red Magic 5G covers all my gaming needs. honestly, and by the way, it has a 144hz OLED display. Personal computer gaming is a relic of the stone age anyway.
I think this monitor is so slow due to the whole display trying to keep up with the slow ass FALD.
Well, it really doesn't concern me anymore, whatever happens to that disk. I did think of mining, since I had a total of 5TB of SSD NVMe disk space, but decided against it. I don't like gambling in any shape or form.If your SSD is chasing chia, it'll probably be dead in a month or three. The write load it does utterly crush the maximum write limits of consumer drives. Not sure what the exact specs were but a few days ago I read an article that put it at 18 days to hit the headline write limit for a consumer drive.
Good call not to do it. Anything less than a high end write optimized enterprise SSD won't be able to survive the write loads chia does.Well, it really doesn't concern me anymore, whatever happens to that disk. I did think of mining, since I had a total of 5TB of SSD NVMe disk space, but decided against it. I don't like gambling in any shape or form.
Mine to get wealthier?If I were wealthier, I'd mine for sure, though.
Chia is pure gamble unlike the ordinary coin mining.Mine to get wealthier?
Thsts why I am GPU mining.
Its still a gamble though since values fluctuate so wildly, but in the end I have made at current BTC value $500 in a little over a month
Were the panel not $3k, I'd say you are picking nits. I'll agree that the image here and the stars video images definitely make the case for OLED. But 32 inch 4k 120hz + OLED does not exist yet.Ohhh MUUUUHHH GAAAHHHHHH
I'm seriously rethinking this purchase guys
1022 miles is a long way to return lol........
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I'm done with PC gaming. Sold my 2080 ti for ~$1730 and an adata m.2 ssd that I had bought recently for gaming storage for ~$385 (bought for $205), I guess it's chasing chia now... I'll be back probably in 1.5-2 years. Tired of waiting for a good gaming monitor which is the key part of the whole system. Also the lack of 3000 series on the market adds to that.
My current phone, the Nubia Red Magic 5G covers all my gaming needs. honestly, and by the way, it has a 144hz OLED display. Personal computer gaming is a relic of the stone age anyway.
I think this monitor is so slow due to the whole display trying to keep up with the slow ass FALD.
Day 2: I have decided to keep it....we will see how many more times I waffle in the next 27 days.I keep you up to date on the state of my PC. Congrats on the purchase.
According to TFT the display is slow because the cooperation between Nvidia/Asus/Acer involved sourcing a panel that was tolerant of the much higher temperature involved with blasting 1600nits peak and 1000nits full field and performing consistently across that entire temperature range.
Maybe if they lowered their brightness target a faster panel could have been used but this is the current compromise to achieve their HDR PQ target.
They could put in louder fansGreat so if we ever get an HDR4000 monitor that just means it'll be 2008 VA piss slow in order to cope with "temperature ranges"
Why stop at fans? Water cooling monitors seems like the logical conclusion.They could put in louder fans
Edit - damnit, now I'm thinking of the xenon bulb projectors I used to work on.
Bright... But hot
Great so if we ever get an HDR4000 monitor that just means it'll be 2008 VA piss slow in order to cope with "temperature ranges"
I'm 99% leaning towards keeping it. I love the 32" 4k 144hz form factor. HDR in bright games is awesome and work productivity is very enjoyable on it. If you already have a PG27UQ or X27 then you really don't need this display unless you absolutely want the 32" size......I like the extra 5 inches (what she said)Were the panel not $3k, I'd say you are picking nits. I'll agree that the image here and the stars video images definitely make the case for OLED. But 32 inch 4k 120hz + OLED does not exist yet.
Aside from this - your other posts on the monitor seem pretty positive. The 'field of stars' situation looks like one that does not come up all that often (but like you, I had to look a bit sideways at what I was seeing).
Is the cost / lack of perfection the main driver for wanting to return it? Or is it one of those monitors that has a few flaws, but is otherwise worth keeping?
I'm 99% leaning towards keeping it. I love the 32" 4k 144hz form factor. HDR in bright games is awesome and work productivity is very enjoyable on it. If you already have a PG27UQ or X27 then you really don't need this display unless you absolutely want the 32" size......I like the extra 5 inches (what she said)
However, it is a bit jarring when playing RD2 in game nightime and the stars are droppin acid. And it sucks ass to have to disable FALD on desktop SDR, which is not something I had to do on the PG27.
The SDR in desktop is not a deal breaker and I have 48cx for dark games.
517 MILES IS WAY TO FAR BRO.....MY LIMIT IS 511
Also, I would rather drive a 1022 mile round trip to pay MSRP then enrich a fucking scum sucking scalping piece of shit!517 MILES IS WAY TO FAR BRO.....MY LIMIT IS 511
I would imagine supply is very low. Most of the microcenters only had two in stock, I think the most I saw was four at one location. ShopBlt is showing only 2 coming in for over 8 pre-orders.People seem to be buying them up even at scalped prices. The sold from Amazon disappeared within 5 minutes of my order being placed so seems to either be very limited quantity or high demand.
If this thing was slightly faster in terms of pixel response I imagine it's a monitor one can keep for 3-5 years.
So instead of reining in the specs to say 1000 nits peak, they decided that shit pixel response times were an ok compromise? It always amazes me that companies with decades of experience building monitors do this shit. You'd think it would be constant progress rather than one step forward, two steps back. Maybe next time they don't give the specs to marketing before they can actually achieve that without severe compromise.According to TFT the display is slow because the cooperation between Nvidia/Asus/Acer involved sourcing a panel that was tolerant of the much higher temperature involved with blasting 1600nits peak and 1000nits full field and performing consistently across that entire temperature range.
Maybe if they lowered their brightness target a faster panel could have been used but this is the current compromise to achieve their HDR PQ target.
1400-1600 nits is a lot of fun though.....like makes ya giggle like little school girl when laZor beams are sizzling out of the screen past your head!So instead of reining in the specs to say 1000 nits peak, they decided that shit pixel response times were an ok compromise? It always amazes me that companies with decades of experience building monitors do this shit. You'd think it would be constant progress rather than one step forward, two steps back. Maybe next time they don't give the specs to marketing before they can actually achieve that without severe compromise.
I mean I have no complaints about the HDR image quality on my LG OLED even if it can do what, 750-800 nits peak and only on fairly small areas of the screen? It's that per pixel local dimming contrast that helps the image quality look great.
You write this as if companies are only serving gamerz as customers (and CS-GO influenced 'mo framez is mo bettah' players who cannot comprehend any value for a monitor other than as a frame pusher).So instead of reining in the specs to say 1000 nits peak, they decided that shit pixel response times were an ok compromise? It always amazes me that companies with decades of experience building monitors do this shit.
I'd be more concerned with the speed of the FALD. The biggest issue that most FALD implementations are still dealing with is how slow they transition. On some displays it can be as much as 60ms. That is one of the things that NVIDIA in partnering with ASUS and Acer have really focused on and I'm glad they're doing it.The slower pixels is not the end of the world people. I'm just just as bad at games on this thing as I am with the 48CX which has beastly pixels lmao.
Seriously though, I am probably actually a bit better on FPS on this thing vs the oled since the 32 size does not overwhelm my senses.
When I am playing BF4, PUBG, Halo CE and BFV...pixel speed is the last thing on my mind.
People are making a bigger issue out of the pixel speed then they need to. IMHO this displays bigger issue is the fact that its FALD is not much better than its
smaller older brother PG27UQ.
But what I do I know...I'm the only one who owns this damn thing right now lol
I'm not sure where I ran across it - but there was a suggestion for using a fast TN panel with just on/off pixels as the back light for a gaming IPS display - put forth as a cheap solution to expensive FALD and finer lighting control than merely 1100 zones or so.I'd be more concerned with the speed of the FALD
You write this as if companies are only serving gamerz as customers (and CS-GO influenced 'mo framez is mo bettah' players who cannot comprehend any value for a monitor other than as a frame pusher).
Three companies came together to put forth a gaming capable HDR display.
Contrast this with the gaming displays with 'shit HDR' that everyone pans.
Dual panel designs have been around for a while at the R&D level. IIRC the biggest problem is that they draw a lot more power because even at their most open state stacking 2 LCDs blocks a lot more of the backlight than just one.I'm not sure where I ran across it - but there was a suggestion for using a fast TN panel with just on/off pixels as the back light for a gaming IPS display - put forth as a cheap solution to expensive FALD and finer lighting control than merely 1100 zones or so.
From what I've seen - the best FALD is centimeter scale atm and getting to pixel scale would certainly challenge OLED
Everyone benefits from faster response times. When these same companies have managed to push those quite low for IPS panels it is frustrating to see one of the most expensive monitors on the market not keep up. At this price point pretty much everything about it should be top tier.You write this as if companies are only serving gamerz as customers (and CS-GO influenced 'mo framez is mo bettah' players who cannot comprehend any value for a monitor other than as a frame pusher).
Three companies came together to put forth a gaming capable HDR display.
Contrast this with the gaming displays with 'shit HDR' that everyone pans.
Cannot argue with that..... At this price point pretty much everything about it should be top tier.
I'm convinced that they're all nervous about 32. Like they 'think' the market is ready... but the don't 'know' the market is ready. My guess is that shortly after the 'this-gen' GPUs hit the home PC market in numbers that the real demand for 32 will show up. For now, its guys like us who know what we want and who are barely restraining ourselves from standing in front of their Corporate Offices and shouting "HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!!"32" after all that time was likely too much of a side step for both Nvidia and Asus.
I think LG has lit a fire under their ass ass well wiith 48cxReigning in brightness to 1000nits on this display isn't what I'd call progress. It's been 3 years since it's 27 inch predecessors launched and releasing the same thing but @ 32" after all that time was likely too much of a side step for both Nvidia and Asus.
1400nits is a nice marketing bullet point where as if it was faster in terms of pixel response, it would have gone completely unotticed.
I dunno if I'm the only one looking at it this way but this and the PG27UQ before it are basically the only displays pushing the PC monitor market forward.
I know a dude that drove 1022 miles to get one of these PG32's cause he was so fed up......I'm convinced that they're all nervous about 32. Like they 'think' the market is ready... but the don't 'know' the market is ready. My guess is that shortly after the 'this-gen' GPUs hit the home PC market in numbers that the real demand for 32 will show up. For now, its guys like us who know what we want and who are barely restraining ourselves from standing in front of their Corporate Offices and shouting "HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!!"
Bro....I was just about to order that one, tell the wife I have to run out to Walmart and get some AAA batteries and then on the way back home take a 1022 mile detour and pick it up. FUCK.Looks like Microcenter is almost out of stock across the country so I said screw it and reserved the last one in Atlanta for pickup tomorrow.
I need to get the kids out of school - then I can be that guy. Actually, Cinci is closer.I know a dude that drove 1022 miles to get one of these PG32's cause he was so fed up......