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OnePlus 5

Been playing with my new 5 for several hours. Aside from the camera, it's not much different from my 3T. Screens are identical and battery life seems comparable, though I've not done any true testing. The 5 is slightly faster in opening and running most apps, but nothing really stands out as truly superior. I'm going to return it and give my little bro my S7 Edge instead of selling him my 3T.

If you have a 3T, I recommend you save your $$ and pass on the 5. I'll take another shot at a rear sensor phone with the Pixel 2, in a couple months.

EDIT: I'm not home, so haven't had a chance to try WiFi. If this disconnection problem is common, then I'm even more convinced about returning my 5.
 
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WiFi issues are involving more than how one holds the phone and antenna placment.

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Commander Shepard said:
Been playing with my new 5 for several hours. Aside from the camera, it's not much different from my 3T. Screens are identical and battery life seems comparable, though I've not done any true testing. The 5 is slightly faster in opening and running most apps, but nothing really stands out as truly superior. I'm going to return it and give my little bro my S7 Edge instead of selling him my 3T.

If you have a 3T, I recommend you save your $$ and pass on the 5. I'll take another shot at a rear sensor phone with the Pixel 2, in a couple months.

EDIT: I'm not home, so haven't had a chance to try WiFi. If this disconnection problem is common, then I'm even more convinced about returning my 5.
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On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the cameras of 3T and the 5? Trying to gauge how much improvement there is.
 
biggles said:
On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the cameras of 3T and the 5? Trying to gauge how much improvement there is.
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If the 3T's camera is a 5, I'd rate the 5's camera a 7.5. For me, the best thing about the 5's camera is its top-left corner location. I constantly block the lens of my 3T with my fingers.
 
I feel sorry for you early adopters. If OP has a customer service support or warranty without charging people to ship the phone back...
 
Commander Shepard said:
Been playing with my new 5 for several hours. Aside from the camera, it's not much different from my 3T. Screens are identical and battery life seems comparable, though I've not done any true testing. The 5 is slightly faster in opening and running most apps, but nothing really stands out as truly superior. I'm going to return it and give my little bro my S7 Edge instead of selling him my 3T.

If you have a 3T, I recommend you save your $$ and pass on the 5. I'll take another shot at a rear sensor phone with the Pixel 2, in a couple months.

EDIT: I'm not home, so haven't had a chance to try WiFi. If this disconnection problem is common, then I'm even more convinced about returning my 5.
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8gb/128gb Midnight Black here.

Just put in my return request this morning. Very nice phone from a hardware perspective. No wifi issues with me. Strong cellular signal. Speed test similar to my 7 Plus. Camera still has the goofy saturated colors. Takes nice pictures in good light. Not quite as point and shoot as the 7 Plus.

4k video will make you sick when watching it as it bounces around. 1080p is fine.

Runs very well from a user perspective. Very fluid and everything just flies. Let my kids game on it and no stutters, lags, etc. Using it normally it really is very nice and I can see them selling it very well.

Physically in hand feels very nice. Width is less than the 7 Plus and the beveled edge makes it sit in your hand very nice (much better than the 7 Plus.

Fingerprint reader is almost too quick. Dark mode should be an option in all phones.

Seemed to do very well overnight with only 4% drop in battery while I slept. This has been an issue for me with previous Android phones where the battery would drop even while the phone slept due to how Android deals with background activity. I like to keep Bluetooth, location, etc. On all the time and the 7 Plus loses very little due to background activity when the screen is off.

If you are coming from a OnePlus 2 generation phone it would feel like a major upgrade. From a 3/3T or similar aged flagship not so much.

It is very much an iterative upgrade if you are the type that upgrades frequently but then again so is most everything else. If they would have hit on the camera it could have been a no brainer but I don't want to wait around and see if OnePlus follows up and improves it as they made lots of promises in the past that the y never followed through with.

Looks like I'll wait for the iPhone 8 and Pixel 2.
 
Read somewhere they will do a future software update to add image stabilization for 4k video.
 
biggles said:
Read somewhere they will do a future software update to add image stabilization for 4k video.
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That was mentioned in the Reddit AMA with OnePlus itself, so it's definitely on the way... it's just a matter of when.
 
That AMA was a trainwreck. So many bug reports and no answers on where the hell is DxO.
 
Aurelius said:
That was mentioned in the Reddit AMA with OnePlus itself, so it's definitely on the way... it's just a matter of when.
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Careful taking OnePlus at their word. This is what Carl tweeted shortly after the OnePlus 2 was released and we all know how that turned out for the OnePlus 2 camera.

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I decided to keep the phone and give them a chance. I really cant find any faults with it. The camera is fine, the wifi is fine, the screen is great, the speaker is loud. It calls very fast, receives calls fast, the handset speaker is loud and clear. It feels nice in the hand. I like the thoughtful touches to android they made without having a crazy overlay and I like how fast and smooth it is.

People on reddit are mentioning some kind of jello affect on the screen and I dont see that either.

I had only one issue, it would not take the 4.5.2 update yesterday which included a fix for a "system update bug". Kind of funny. My phone couldnt take the update to fix an update bug. I put in a ticket with OnePlus but I figured out the solution myself. I downloaded the rom from their page, went into the recovery and flashed it from there. Thats pretty damn slick.
 
Congrats OnePlus 5 on becoming the new speedtest champ according to youtuber phonebuff:
 
It is rather funny that it takes 8 GB for Android to beat what iOS could do with 3 GB. Not to mention a much larger battery to match the battery life. But customization! Fuck you, Apple!

*Please take this in jest*
 
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So there is no fixing the "jelly" effect on OP5. It actually is "natural" lmao.

https://www.xda-developers.com/conf...ay-upside-down-likely-reason-jelly-scrolling/

OP for some reason decided to have the display upside down. lol
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Flipped my 7 Plus upside to see if I could get the jelly effect but no luck.

I'll have to check it out on my OP5. I received my RMA approval already but my son is using it now and said he wants to keep it to replace the One Plus One that he is using. Must not bother him as I didn't notice it when I used it for a day.

I still have a few days left to return it so I'll see how it is this weekend.
 
That's great Commander. Just for my curiosity was there a return shipping charge?
 
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Considering the product issues that have surfaced and had it been me making the purchase, $7 is a nominal fee for the peace of mind to get out quickly while I could.
 
I'll be honest this subtle effect(which I didn't even notice until I learned about it) is making it really hard for me to justify returning an otherwise awesome phone. But it is pretty funny to see the grey box surrounding the comments subtly wobble when scrolling up and down very quickly with the gap between comments positioned in the middle of the screen.

Anyone else have this on other phones?
 
The Lurker said:
I'll be honest this subtle effect(which I didn't even notice until I learned about it) is making it really hard for me to justify returning an otherwise awesome phone. But it is pretty funny to see the grey box surrounding the comments subtly wobble when scrolling up and down very quickly with the gap between comments positioned in the middle of the screen.

Anyone else have this on other phones?
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I can't notice it on the OnePlus 5 that I got. My son is using it and he does not see it either. He is on 4.5.3 and all stock.
 
radeon962 said:
I can't notice it on the OnePlus 5 that I got. My son is using it and he does not see it either. He is on 4.5.3 and all stock.
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You know what it reminds me of. Do you remember way back in the day before CRT monitors could support over 60hz? Soon as you started using a screen that could support greater refresh regularly, any time you played a game or even used windows on less you could see the ghosting. This is a very similar situation to that. The screen refreshes the other way you are normally used to and you see the slight delay at the top because thats the last part to get updated. On every other phone, it happens under your thumb, so you never see it. This is why if you flip over other oled phones the effect will be present on them too. Its really subtle and its noticeable when you scroll a wall of text like a reddit app or the forum, its almost impossible to tell if the page doesnt have a structured formatting. Without some structure as a broad reference point you need to pick one point, like a line or image and then flick the screen up and down to catch it happening.

I actually increased the display size this morning and it mitigated the issue further. Also, at least for me, less eye strain(damn I sound old).

Besides that, people are complaining about the camera. I dont know, I have never had a phone with a decent camera so to me this is an amazing camera. If I want to take pictures for keeping, I grab my point and shoot, the phones pictures are more or less disposable. But i get it, everyone has different priorities, for some people the camera is as important as the phone.


I guess my main concern is Oneplus turning around and accelerating the release of the next model with a right side up display effectively killing this models value. Dont get me wrong, I dont buy phones with the intent to resell later, but still, its unpleasant.
 
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#neversettle

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ng-jelly-effect-oneplus-5-screen-says-normal/

This ain't normal...

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This is HIGHLY exaggerated because it was recorded in slow motion. Take it from me, this is not anywhere near this noticeable. You really have to be looking for it to notice it.

Come on man, you know you are better than this. Don't be like the kids on the Reddit Oneplus sub; that place is really toxic. Just this morning I read a thread with someone bashing customer support without having even called them. Just take that in for a second. You need to come to your own conclusions.

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That AMA was a trainwreck. So many bug reports and no answers on where the hell is DxO.
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The AMA was a trainwreck because kids are asking questions that reasonable people would not ask then get pissed when they get an answer they were not expecting. On top of that, the OP team, I guess, are using their in house PR(or just doing it themselves) to handle this market and customer and they have no idea how to. So, the answers were so vague and misguided that they lead to more speculation and vitriol.

Honestly, I am really trying to give OP the benefit of the doubt here. From what I see, they are trying very hard to do the right thing, but instead of getting the public to work with them they are making stupid mistake after mistake that position the public against them. Starting with the retarded email they sent when they missed the dispatch date on the early drop orders. Any person that has seasoned corporate experience reading that face palmed hard, I know I did, that email had way to many classic mistakes only novices make when communicating with stake holders.
 
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I dunno if the "kids" were being unreasonable in asking them if they have solutions to bugs and malfunctions or why the camera is so mediocre despite the DxO "partnership," especially with DxO being missing at launch. If their customer support team is actually good, I don't think the AMA would be blown up with support requests.
 
Speaking of dxomark, where is the camera review from that website? What is causing the delay?
 
My guess is OnePlus paid DxO to not release any review of the launch unit and asked them to help them adjust the photos through software, because the camera or its software at launch is mediocre if not terrible as usual.
 
Fine detail preservation in the OnePlus 5 photo? Did DXOmark realize the error?

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Further down on their web page it looks like they posted the same three photos, but this time they addressed the blurriness.

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CHANG3D said:
I dunno if the "kids" were being unreasonable in asking them if they have solutions to bugs and malfunctions or why the camera is so mediocre despite the DxO "partnership," especially with DxO being missing at launch. If their customer support team is actually good, I don't think the AMA would be blown up with support requests.
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I was referring to questions related to why the phone doesnt have waterproofing, bezeless display, why the USB port wasnt 3.0, why they didnt use QC charging all the while costing more than the 3T. The answer is simple enough, it would raise the cost of the final product and their phone is still cheaper than its competitors, who also raised their prices for 2017.

People were complaining about the camera quality not stopping to realize all but the most expensive phones have imperfect cameras. If you want a phone for its camera the options are very limited, everything else muddles around.

I also noticed, and get ready, people dont actually contact support when they have issues. Instead what they do is complain that they dont want to contact support because they heard "of one plus's bad support". Ok Fine. They post threads asking for support but then refuse to test anything to rule out those things that could cause the problem, instead just point fingers and blame the phone. Its a weird culture over there.

The problem is people bought the hype, not the device. You cant expect Samsung S8 and Pixel levels of quality in a device that costs 540 bucks. If it was, Samsung and Google would be selling their phones for that much. But you gotta cut corners somewhere, and ill say it again (said in another thread), the difference in price between Samsung/Google/Apple and the chinese brands is mostly the level of QC and this is just more evidence of it. Same goes for the camera, it costs money to make the sensor in the S8 and the iPhone do what it can do, hardware alone does not cut it.

As for me. I have been using the phone for 2 weeks now and tomorrow is the last day for me to initiate a return and I am going to keep it. Its an excellent phone despite what people say about the camera. Its the best I have ever had on a phone. The audio issue, doesn't bother me since the phone only has one speaker and I hardly ever play anything I record off the phone. The inverted display, as I said above, is only noticeable when rapidly scrolling structured pages up and down. None of these are enough to sway me from the ridiculous battery life, responsiveness, extremely fast fingerprint scanner, the quality of the forward camera, the excellent reception and the completely clean android that can be rooted.

I even contacted support on day 2 when my phone wouldnt take the update. They responded quickly to the ticket and were very courteous.

So you really need to give it a chance yourself instead of doing what many people are doing and just parroting the haters.
 
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I don't understand at all how OP5 scored that high. The image processing looks pretty bad and often things look like in a painting. P10, S8 and the likes are miles ahead yet that doesn't show in their score. In fact, I think it's worse than P9 and Honor 8.
 
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All the samples look blurry and dxo's explanation of that is fishy
 
I've had all of the Oneplus phones up to the Oneplus 5, and besides the first model, i've had to return one phone from every generation for defects. They have a very well known track record for having horrible support. Even with that, when the phones worked, they usually worked great except for low light photography. I almost went out on a limb and bought a Oneplus 5, but the lack of water resistance held me back.
 
Lost my 3T at the lake -- more to the point, IN the lake -- over the weekend. I really don't see any other phones that say "buy me, bitch" so I ordered an OP5 128GB in black today. Hope this doesn't have that jello browser issue.
 
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