OnePlus 5

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  1. Supersnake

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    All rumors currently point to it looking exactly like the Oppo R11 but with better SoC. Looking forward to what optimization DxO could do to the camera. I hope it will stick to dual sim.

    I really want to see how it compares to the HTC U11
     
  3. Zorachus

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    I was super pumped for the OnePlus 5, but now super disappointed. The design is a laughable copy of the iPhone 7, which I think is a good looking phone, but OnePlus doesn't need to copy it, just keep their original look going, but don't make a iPlus 5. But the design isn't a deal breaker. The small 3,000mAh is though. I thought Oneplus was known for pushing the hardware to extremes, "Never settle" Ok, then don't settle with a small battery, how bout surprise us with a 4,000mAh battery, or at least a 3,500mAh battery.

    Let's see if they pull the same stunt at the end of the year with a 5T model, having better specs and larger battery?
     
  4. Domingo

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    Having minimal exposure to OnePlus, what sets them apart exactly? It seems like they make flagship devices that are more affordable, right?
    How's their implementation of Android and how often do the phones get updates? Any red flags or issues with US carriers?
    On their website it looks like nothing they make is water resistant. Any chance this phone will be?
     
  5. CHANG3D

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    OnePlus is just more affordable flagship with traditionally crappy camera. Their partnership with DxO may help or solve this problem. The OS skin is Oxygen OS, which they do keep updated for under two generations; OnePlus 2 updates are officially discontinued - last update was delivered in April. Oxygen OS is close to stock and will not be in your way like TouchWiz.

    The biggest redflag is the customers service and support. They are also trying to get better at this, but this isn't an easy fix.
     
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    I'm waiting for some hands-on reviews, but this would be on the short list to replace my phone one day. I'm a huge fan of the Nexus line, but I'm not willing to pay for the Pixel phones, and this seems like something in the middle.
     
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    I'm at the point where I'm planning on going with a Pixel 2, but I don't want to end up in a situation where the model I want is never in stock. I'm also a little concerned about the rumored curved screen after all of the S8 scratching and case issues. As a result, I'm watching these new releases pretty closely.
     
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    Think of the OnePlus line as taking the spot of the old Nexus line, meaning affordable price, with flagship specs, minus a few top features. It will have a flagship processor and RAM matching the current top Samsung, LG, and HTC phones of the day, but may be a lesser camera, for example.

    As far as updates, OnePlus is not the best, nor the worse. But nowhere near as fast as a Nexus / Pixel phone getting updated immediately obviously. The OnePlus line can lag behind a few months. But these phones are meant to be running a Custom ROM, which are typically updated to the newest version much quicker.

    The OnePlus OS is AOSP, meaning near identical looking and feeling to stock Android, with extra features over stock.
     
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    My thoughts exactly...I'm hugely disappointed that Google decided to go "flagship only" and not sell any phones <$600.
     
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    I love my 3T and am all in for the OP 5. I like the corner camera as my fingers always block part of the center camera. My only question is the 5's battery life. If it's the same or better than the 3T, then I'll be buying one as soon as their available. :)
     
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    I'll wait for the 5T coming in Winter, with bigger battery, and newer hardware.
     
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    Got any leads on that 5T?

    Actually, you'll buy the 5... then the Pixel 2... then the Note 8... then the iPhone 8... then go back to your Nexus 6P... and then buy the 5T. ;)
     
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    I hope they don't do the 5T thing. Just do it right the first time, any word on water/dust resistance?
     
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    Naah... I think it looks unique enough. To me iPhone 7 Plus looks a bit too much like black Honor 8 (Honor 8 has fingerprint scanner on backside though). The truth is that rectangles with rounded corners (that are same colour) all look more or less the same.
     
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    IMO, like 95% of phones "look like an iPhone" and have for a while. Usually when something doesn't, the look is divisive or very forward thinking (like the S8).
     
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    That's a key question...I was surprised that Google didn't add those features to the Pixel as their flagship. Seems like it should be a standard feature these days in any company flagship.
     
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    One of the Google Pixel execs actually admitted that they wanted to, but didn't have enough time. He then said that the 2nd definitely would.
     
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    Eh, I hate that excuse...A delayed product is eventually good. A flawed product is flawed forever. (to paraphrase Nintento's famous quote)
     
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    I don't disagree, but when shareholders and deadlines are in play I definitely get it. Especially when phones get yearly updates. A flawed phone is only flawed until next year's model pushes it off the shelf. It's a little puzzling that they've never discounted the Pixel though. They're still as expensive and in the case of some models, as elusive as they were at launch. Clearly they don't think Pixel buyers are price sensitive.
     
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    I think they're going for the "halo" product/effect with the Pixel. Price it high with the other flagships and people will assume it's worth it. Don't get me wrong, the Pixel does seem like a nice phone, but I don't think it's worth the price. I'd love to see a slightly cheaper version. Maybe a step down on the camera, drop to a 1080p screen, etc and cut the price to $400-450. The Nexus line sold like mad because it was a great phone for the price with direct and frequent updates, not because it was top-notch hardware.

    The OnePlus seems like the closest thing to the old Nexus line to me.
     
  21. Supersnake

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    If OnePlus's 3T history repeats itself that makes sense. By that time we may be in for a nice surprise, a Nokia flagship.
     
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    According to some OnePlus Finish contest, the OnePlus 5 may be €550, which is converted to $620. So in the US, it'll likely be $600.

    So at $600, will you get a OnePlus 5? HTC U11 and the Pixel 2 are looking very good at the moment.
     
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    I have no problem with the OP5 even if it looks like an iPhone.

    The OP3 is great. One of the best phones I've had.
     
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    At $600+ the OnePlus 5 will be a slow seller. Especially with the small battery, and carbon copy iPhone 7 clone design.

    Man I just wish there was a Nexus 7P. Same design as the 6P, just throw in the current SD835, update the camera, and a newer tech display and keep that same $500 price and I'd be a happy clam.
     
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    Nah, the android dream would just either the GPE editions of the Galaxy S8 Active (the flat display one), the LG G6, or the HTC U11, with Google doing all the updates. I'm assuming the Pixel 2 will be much like the HTC U11 but without the squeeze, so maybe that would be the only one possible.
     
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    I have a 7 Plus and think it's design is just fine. No problem at all if the OP5 looks the same. It's all about the battery life for me. Anything less than what my 3T delivers ain't gonna work.

    Oh, a Pixel-esque price tag would be a deal breaker, too. :banghead:
     
  27. The Lurker

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    IMHO the biggest problem with ZTE, One Plus, Huawei and other chinese phones is they lack the necessary software and hardware QA of the bigger companies.
     
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    We have 24 % VAT here. Contests always tend to round up the actual value of things but in any case I think it will definitely be >499 € phone.
     
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    if that's the case, it would suggest the US launch pricing to be $550.
     
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    I honestly believe that the OnePlus Finnish contest is probably a more accurate estimate of the price than oppomart. After all, oppomart doesn't have the best predictions historically for the OnePlus and OnePlus Finland contest is ran by the authentic OnePlus.
     
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    I don't believe anyone has a clue to the price. Anything over $550 will be deal breaker for me, unless I get an unexpectedly good price for my 3T on Swappa. And, we still don't have any ideas about the 5's battery life.
     
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    Hope you all were waiting on the iPhone 7 Plus running Android. Looks like OnePlus design team took more than just an idea of modeling after the iPhone and just said screw it, let's just copy it, throw in some nice hardware and run Android on an iPhone.

    Or it could just be that it is cheaper to use the Oppo R11 as the basis for the OnePlus 5 like they did with the OnePlus One and Oppo Find 7a.

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    Better sell your 3T now. Prices have been steadily dropping and will fall more as we get closer to the 5 releases.

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    Why the heck is OPO so obsessed with going the "thinnest flagship smartphone" ranking ? Everyone I talk to, and I mean everyone, would much rather have a hair thicker phone with a larger battery over, being the cool kid with a skinny thin frame, while sacrificing battery life.

    Thinnest smartphone means ZERO, that's is absolutely no reason to ever want or need that. Where with just a little bit more thicker phone, you can get hours more battery life. Who the heck wouldn't want that instead ?
     
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    I don't get the "thinnest" thing either. The width doesn't make a giant phone fit in my pocket any better than one a few millimeters thicker. I don't think it makes them any easier to hold, use, or do anything with either. Hell, like 90% of people in turn make them thicker with a case anyway.
    I do appreciate the phones that are reducing the bezels, though. Whenever I use my co-worker's Pixel I can't help but notice how much space is wasted by the bezel. I couldn't even tell you how thick it is, though.
     
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    At least make it thick enough to get rid of the camera bump and fill the extra with a larger battery.

    More rumors are pointing to a 6GB/64GB base model around $500 and an 8GB/128GB around $600
     
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    Because their design department lacks imagination, and their marketing department ascribes to and perpetuates a herd mentality.

    Exactly. A thin phone equates to a larger camera hump and a smaller battery. Give me a thicker phone any day to reduce the camera hump and place a larger battery in it, it's common sense.
     
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    Why thin matters?

    Fashion. Tight jeans and other form fitting trousers are popular. Thicker phones would make pocket bulge unappealing.
     
  40. The Lurker

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    Forget the sunk costs, they should be irrelevant to your decision.

    This right here. A thick phone plus case = thicker phone. Thin phone + case = reasonable thickness. When most users carry their phone in a pocket a and not a belt clip or purse, at some point, it begins to matter. Now, is 1 - 2 mm really a big difference? I dont know, not for me. But then it depends on how much battery life the phone gets. What I feel most fail to realize is that with more efficient processors you dont need as big a battery to maintain the same SOT and as long as some average is maintained, im happy. For example. I never hit 4 hrs of screen time, if it gets at least that while being thinner, then ill take it.

    What matters to me, and im not seeing it mentioned, is the weight. IMHO, A heavy phone has a much greater impact to its handling and pocket comfort than the thickness.
     
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