NVIDIA Names First Two Fermi GPUs

Folding, like that actually is doing something.

Here is a folding client
10 print "HELLO WORLD"
20 goto 10
 
Yeah, 480 does sound a lot better than 380!

I hope big N can launch this without major problems. No defective chips and unhappy customers and they have a fighting chance at a radeon 5000 killer. I would buy it over an ATI, if it were as reliable and powerful for the same price.
 
MarshMellow said:
Folding, like that actually is doing something.

Here is a folding client
10 print "HELLO WORLD"
20 goto 10
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It's better than SETI was... that was just a silly program, at least Folding has the potential to help (if not drive up your electric bill and fuel big-headed people at Stanford's egos).
 
GoldenTiger said:
It's better than SETI was... that was just a silly program, at least Folding has the potential to help (if not drive up your electric bill and fuel big-headed people at Stanford's egos).
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I think it's just ridiculous that people get so serious about these folding programs. Let me tell everyone that if there is even a slight bug in what they are doing (and there are usually hundreds/thousands) it could invalidate prior work making it pointless. It's just a big ass test in distributed computing techniques with some "reason" that gets people interested tacked on top.

Meanwhile you have people with 1KW PSU's running these clients burning up fossil fuels thinking they are doing something worthwhile for humanity. The smug level is high.
 
MarshMellow said:
It's just a big ass test in distributed computing techniques with some "reason" that gets people interested tacked on top.
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Or so you think. Closed source software can be doing anything without you knowing it. You sure it's "folding?" How do you know it isn't cracking AES keys for the NSA?
 
InorganicMatter said:
Or so you think. Closed source software can be doing anything without you knowing it. You sure it's "folding?" How do you know it isn't cracking AES keys for the NSA?
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This was my point, they give some "reason" whether it's real or not who knows, but it's their to attract the smugs. Since the data they send you is rather abstract and not complete you would have no idea what the hell it was doing. If they also give code in the "packets" you receive it would make finding out what it's doing even harder.
 
MarshMellow said:
I think it's just ridiculous that people get so serious about these folding programs. Let me tell everyone that if there is even a slight bug in what they are doing (and there are usually hundreds/thousands) it could invalidate prior work making it pointless. It's just a big ass test in distributed computing techniques with some "reason" that gets people interested tacked on top.

Meanwhile you have people with 1KW PSU's running these clients burning up fossil fuels thinking they are doing something worthwhile for humanity. The smug level is high.
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Well said, especially regarding fossil fuel energy being burnt to power it.
 
Its just a naming scheme, I don't see whats the big deal...
Don't understand why anyone thinks its nVidia's attempt at misguiding user or something sinister
 
I'm beyond caring what they're gonna name the cards after the mess of numbers the GeForce series is in, i just wanna see some benchmarks, lol.
 
niconx said:
I bet few people here knew that there was a Geforce 100 series? They are OEM only cards with older gpu's. Nvidia is doing the same thing with the 300 series it looks like. It actually does make sense. They are trying not to associate Fermi with the older series 300 oem cards.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g_100_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_120_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_130_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_150_us.html

http://www.guru3d.com/news/nvidia-geforce-300-series-surface-in-new-drivers/
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Exactly

300 series will be for an OEM refresh
 
Hornet said:
Its just a naming scheme, I don't see whats the big deal...
Don't understand why anyone thinks its nVidia's attempt at misguiding user or something sinister
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because several other renames are pretty blatantly intended so. This seems to be more or less an attempt to keep the already muddied 300 brand away from Fermi. The fact is that they have done this enough to warrant keeping the Fermi cards well and clear of the splatter due to the target audience being well aware of the renaming scam. At least this is promising, Nvidia apparently (this is just speculation on my part here) doesn't need to pull a scam to sell these. The will stand on their own merit.
 
Finally, soon we'll finally see actual benchmarks so I can make a decision as to what my next video card is going to be.
 
Riftsaw said:
Agreed Bulldozer.

I've been biding my time and it finally looks like its time to upgrade. I just hope the new cards don't suck in addition to being expensive.
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I'm sure performance will be good, the only question is price. I'm hoping that this finally sparks a price war so that AMD will drop the price of the 5000 series some more. I'm keeping an open mind for both, I hope the nvidia cards are awesome, but there's nothing wrong with competition finally being back. :)
 
Im going to get a 5850 here soon, or maybe a fermi if they come up with one under $300.

Not likely though with that die size, the yields are going to suck.

Oh well, least I've gotten my money out of the 8800GTS
 
Valset said:
because several other renames are pretty blatantly intended so. This seems to be more or less an attempt to keep the already muddied 300 brand away from Fermi. The fact is that they have done this enough to warrant keeping the Fermi cards well and clear of the splatter due to the target audience being well aware of the renaming scam. At least this is promising, Nvidia apparently (this is just speculation on my part here) doesn't need to pull a scam to sell these. The will stand on their own merit.
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This is just too funny to pass up. People consistently harp on the naming convention, but really the way the models are named is consistent. They name the current cards they are making based on their target market segment and performance level. So "re-branded" cards which, by the way, are not just "re-branded" they have some design changes made to them and then are released as the lower budget end of the current line. The reason for this is that it is a newly made card marketed for that performance bracket and price point. They did it so consumers could find a card that could still do current games at a price point they want, rather than worrying about whether it can handle the current crop of games and applications.

So really this whole harping on the naming convention is ridiculous. You don't go out harping on Automobile companies because they put out new cars with the same exact engines year after year and call them newer models. Or how about LCD displays that use the same panels, but come out with "newer" models? Really the whole harping on the naming convention is just bogus.
 
NoOther said:
So really this whole harping on the naming convention is ridiculous. You don't go out harping on Automobile companies because they put out new cars with the same exact engines year after year and call them newer models. Or how about LCD displays that use the same panels, but come out with "newer" models? Really the whole harping on the naming convention is just bogus.
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Yeah, it's really silly of people, frankly. Products in the grocery even are renamed :eek:. If we're smart enough to know they are renaming products to fit different segments and tweaking them, why do people think others aren't, and that it's some big evil scheme to swill money from unsuspecting consumers? As you said, they usually do tweaks that would be called new products in other industries as well, and even if they were 100% alone in doing so (which they're not) it's nothing evil at all or wrong.
 
nightwalker said:
I'm beyond caring what they're gonna name the cards after the mess of numbers the GeForce series is in, i just wanna see some benchmarks, lol.
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Yeah can't wait for hardwarecanucks and firingsquad to post their reviews, my two favorite ones.
 
I hate it when nvidia always changes the card naming scheme to confuse the customers. For their sake this GTX 485 better be good and worth it. And yes, I'm looking forward to the benchmarks :)
 
The funny thing is that they made it very public that they were going to try to simplify the naming conventions after the clusterfuck with the 8800 series.

Nope, it hasn't really gotten any clearer to the average layperson. :)
 
NoOther said:
This is just too funny to pass up. People consistently harp on the naming convention, but really the way the models are named is consistent. They name the current cards they are making based on their target market segment and performance level. So "re-branded" cards which, by the way, are not just "re-branded" they have some design changes made to them and then are released as the lower budget end of the current line. The reason for this is that it is a newly made card marketed for that performance bracket and price point. They did it so consumers could find a card that could still do current games at a price point they want, rather than worrying about whether it can handle the current crop of games and applications.

So really this whole harping on the naming convention is ridiculous. You don't go out harping on Automobile companies because they put out new cars with the same exact engines year after year and call them newer models. Or how about LCD displays that use the same panels, but come out with "newer" models? Really the whole harping on the naming convention is just bogus.
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no one expects engines performance to increase at an exponential rate, this fails big time as a comparison. why would you even compare them? There is no Moore's Law governing the internal combustion engine. Or LCD panels for that matter.(though for the record a rebrand is a rebrand) don't compare apples and oranges then expect that ridicule will make it go away.

and yes Nvidia has been shady with them. there is a hundred threads on this already so search if you want cited samples but no one that has followed the industry (and has any impartiality) can honestly say that the renaming is not at the least misleading. This includes this site as well as severl other well regarded review sits. I view it as more like downright deceitful. (I recall explaining to someone that the 9800GT 1gb was NOT an upgrade to their 8800GT). and lately with nothing to actually sell until fermi they seem to be content to continue the trend.

in short Nvidia IS consistent, its consistently misleading.
 
Valset said:
no one expects engines performance to increase at an exponential rate, this fails big time as a comparison. why would you even compare them?
There is no Moore's Law governing the internal combustion engine. Or LCD panels for that matter.(though for the record a rebrand is a rebrand) don't compare apples and oranges then expect that ridicule will make it go away.
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This fails, as Moore's Law is not what is driving GPU development. There are just as many laws driving engine compression ratios and fluid capacities. Why can some engines handle more boost than others? Your comment here fails horribly. My very question was why do you expect so much in GPUs and not in other areas?

Valset said:
and yes Nvidia has been shady with them. there is a hundred threads on this already so search if you want cited samples but no one that has followed the industry (and has any impartiality) can honestly say that the renaming is not at the least misleading. This includes this site as well as severl other well regarded review sits. I view it as more like downright deceitful. (I recall explaining to someone that the 9800GT 1gb was NOT an upgrade to their 8800GT). and lately with nothing to actually sell until fermi they seem to be content to continue the trend.
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Shady by some weird standard that people have come up with. What about AMD and Intel? They have had some interesting name and number choices for their CPUs? Why not chastise them? It wasn't long ago that everyone was criticizing AMD for moving away from their original naming convention and going to a totally different derivative that was not associated with the chip's performance, at least as the industry judged performance at the time.

Valset said:
in short Nvidia IS consistent, its consistently misleading.
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Your entire post was consistently misleading. You are just putting out hate towards Nvidia for trying to make the market easier for non-enthusiasts. If you watch how they actually name their cards, they are named according to their performance level at the time of their development/re-development. Even "re-branded" cards have had changes made to them, just like there are changes made in other industries and the product is renamed. ATI on the other hand doesn't keep going back to perfect their current card (unless there is a glaring defect like the heat issue with the original 4850s). Instead they usually are focused on their next generation. This is because they can't really afford to do anything else. I also think that strategy in general is better too (ATI's strategy that is).

In addition, this new named card is not misleading, they already set out as many others here have said, that the 100 and 300 series are OEM parts usually made for the mobile market. So really, your post here fails on all counts.
 
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