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New nVidia driver patch Anti-ATI-PhysX with..Reverse Gravity..

I'm starting to feel bad for nvidia. It is chuckle worthy to see, same with their anti Intel cartoons, but really not a good way to do business.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
I'm starting to feel bad for nvidia. It is chuckle worthy to see, same with their anti Intel cartoons, but really not a good way to do business.
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QFT, it's funny but Nvidia is really just making themselves look like a bunch of assholes.
 
Haha. They should use those resources to churn out some fucking nVidia surround support instead of this crap.
 
Why does Nvidia hate consumers so much? It seems like stockholders are far, far more important to them, but even the stockholders themselves are getting fed up.
 
fattypants said:
Why does Nvidia hate consumers so much? It seems like stockholders are far, far more important to them, but even the stockholders themselves are getting fed up.
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no they just hate ATI that much.. but they are so blind in their hatred for ATI that they dont realize its effecting them and their profits..
 
NVIDIA needs to just get over themselves, I hate them as a company because they always resort to childish actions like this. Just GTFO and get off your high horse.
 
fattypants said:
Why does Nvidia hate consumers so much? It seems like stockholders are far, far more important to them, but even the stockholders themselves are getting fed up.
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I'm a (small) Nvidia shareholder, and I was fed up enough to easily make the decision to go ATI. With their Fermi yields reportedly bad, and this PhysX nonsense, I'm just waiting for the right moment to get rid of my stock. Unfortunately I bought around two years ago when Nvidia had just purchased PhysX, and I thought that they were going to turn it into something positive.

Boy was I wrong!
 
Negative gravity seems like a good thing in this instance. NVIDIA users have to suffer with the skirt covering up all that juicy virtual flesh while AMD users get an automagic Marilyn Monroe dress-blowing effect.
 
So when nVidia said they didn't want to support PhysX with ATI cards because there could be bugs they were right, and they knew it because they put them there..
 
Well, that settles that. Despite the TDR problems I've had with two 4870s, my next card will be AMD. Maybe when Nvidia's childish bullshit costs them enough sales, they'll cut it out.
 
I know nvidia is low but I did not expect it is that low.. it keeps amazing me.
 
Wait a minute, you mean that Nvidia really did this just to spite ATI and their use of PhysX hack?
 
Bo_Fox said:
Wait a minute, you mean that Nvidia really did this just to spite ATI and their use of PhysX hack?
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Perhaps that was their intent, but I highly doubt it pissed off AMD in the slightest. What it DOES do is piss off the people who buy Nvidia graphics cards for PhysX processing. In other words, NVidia does not want your money if you plan on putting their card in your machine along with an AMD card.
 
i'm not getting what this does, is it like people who own an ati card and play a game which uses nvidia physx now get screwed or is it ati user hack games to use their cards and it flips, not sure how this would affect people
 
cthulhuiscool said:
i'm not getting what this does, is it like people who own an ati card and play a game which uses nvidia physx now get screwed or is it ati user hack games to use their cards and it flips, not sure how this would affect people
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People using an Nvidia card for PhysX and an ATI card for graphics get reverse gravity if they try to use the old version of the hack which allows PhysX to work (normally Nvidia would lock out PhysX support if the driver finds an ATI card in the system). There's already a new version of the hack which fixes it. It's just stupid.
 
GENIUS! ubisoft should make all their games drm free but you pay to have gravity go the right direction, that'll break piracy (that was sarcasm)
 
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Hmmmm, if you watch that FluidMark video, you can see that the "hardware PhysX" support just sort of stops and the framerates drop down to nothing. Even before I had my 5870, I had problems in Batman with PhysX just stopping - it turned into a slideshow during the "sneak around Scarecrow" sections. At first I thought it was part of the game, like a dream sequence. However, after reloading my saved game, it ran fine. I wonder if that was a case of the anti-ATI timebomb incorrectly going off, and thus leading to the fix listed in these release notes. I didn't get reverse gravity, but I definitely lost my PhysX performance.
 
As someone who uses the ATI PhysX hack I actually find this funny. Rather than breaking the hack, they just messed with it a little.
The new hack fixes it, and seems to work a bit differently, too. It's no longer using the "Extend Display" functionality. FYI - if you have an old version of the hack and upgrade, definitely read the instructions. The new hack can screw you up if you're not careful.
 
lol!
i was considering picking up a 250 or 260 as a secondary card for folding/phyx use. but if nvidia is gonna play childish games like this.. seriously?

don't want to deal with installing special "hacks" or driver problems if i can avoid it.
 
Oldie said:
Perhaps that was their intent, but I highly doubt it pissed off AMD in the slightest. What it DOES do is piss off the people who buy Nvidia graphics cards for PhysX processing. In other words, NVidia does not want your money if you plan on putting their card in your machine along with an AMD card.
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This is interesting because I thought that Nvidia only withdrew support for PhysX when using ATI cards as primary GPU's, SOLELY due to the fact that NV does not want to keep on ensuring all of the driver-specific compatibilities with ATI cards.

Well, it seems that NV is not putting the money where its mouth is and that NV is actually pissed off that the owners of ATI cards are still able to enjoy PhysX with a hack using NV's own cards (which should have been a good thing for NV anyways)!
 
Bo_Fox said:
This is interesting because I thought that Nvidia only withdrew support for PhysX when using ATI cards as primary GPU's, SOLELY due to the fact that NV does not want to keep on ensuring all of the driver-specific compatibilities with ATI cards.

Well, it seems that NV is not putting the money where its mouth is and that NV is actually pissed off that the owners of ATI cards are still able to enjoy PhysX with a hack using NV's own cards (which should have been a good thing for NV anyways)!
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Only, the new WDM framework takes care of that for them, so that excuse is and always has been bullshit. So, yes, your conclusion is correct, just belated.
 
Terpfen said:
How quickly we all forget the Microsoft of the 1990s.
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or the crowd has gotten much younger here in the last few years and they arent even old enough to know about the microsoft of the 1990's.. :p

tannat said:
No, only to spite users. ATI couldn't care less.
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i think ATI does care.. they are just silently sitting back and enjoying the show..
 
This further ensures I won't be buying an nvidia card anytime in the foreseeable future. Physx was lame enough already, walking by paper and it flying around like your fucking Pecos Bill riding a fucking tornado. I can't be the only one who thought the paper in Batman:AA looked ridiculous.
 
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