New 1950x build... and I went all out...

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  1. H2R2P2

    H2R2P2 Limp Gawd

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    I decided to throw caution to the wind and went all out on a new Threadripper system. Here is what I ordered (and already had on hand):

    1) AMD Threadripper 1950x
    2) ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme
    3) 128 GB CORSAIR Vengence LPX DDR4 3000
    4) EK Supremacy FullNK Water Block
    5) Alphacool Eiszeit 2000 Chiller
    6) 3x Samsung 960 Pro's (already had)
    7) Intel P3608 (already had this)
    8) 2x Titan XP's (already had these)
    9) 1600W eVGA Power Supply (Titanium- already had this too)
    10) Silverstone Temjin TJ07 case (already had)

    Also have a couple 8GB Vega 64's sitting here so may try them out in this system too...

    I have a number of systems; all are water cooled and I have done custom water cooled systems for a long, long, time. I have always wanted to try a chiller out, but never went down that road before, so the Alphacool chiller will be a first. I can get some pictures up if people are interested. I am usually not big on posting (as you can see from my post total) but figured this could be a good opportunity to help and get help with a new platform....

    Again, trying to gauge interest of this little project so let me know if you guys want updates as stuff starts showing up.
     
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  2. N4CR

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    Awww hell yes chilled water, 128Gb of ram and TR got my attention!

    Dielectric grease on the list too?
     
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    I'm not jealous at all.
     
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  4. sirmonkey1985

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    definitely keep us updated, looks like a fun build.
     
  5. H2R2P2

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    Still debating on the dielectric grease. The chiller temp is configurable and supposed to have a setting to cool the coolant back to room temp, so I dont need to go crazy straight away. Also plan on having the chiller in a different room as its supposed to be able to pump 10M distance and 600L/HR. This will be fun!
     
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    There is so little headroom on current process that AMD is using for Ryzen I would not worry about overclocking to much even if watercooling does a better job it will not crush any barriers ....
     
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    TR is the top 5%. TR's got the easiest path to 4.0+. Barriers...? Getting one of these chips to 4 and keeping it cool would normally be a chore but OP has a serious chiller so cooling is a moot point.
     
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    Next year though they'll be set for Zen2. I'm quite excited to see how it goes if their 4-5GHz roadmap stays true.
    Either way 16 cores at 4GHz is nothing to sneer about. It'd make a 7900x look like a joke in intended workloads.

    I'm quite jelly, always wanted to play around with chilled water! Enjoy the new rig :)
    That's a very neat chiller too and you should be safe with room temp as long as it's not too inaccurate. That said, I'd dielectric grease it anyway so I don't have to do it later. Curiosity and the cat and all that.
     
  9. H2R2P2

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    Thanks! I am rather excited about it myself! I ordered my CPU block from the same place I ordered the chiller and since the blocks arent in stock yet, they dont want to ship the order until they block is in stock. Not a sure huge deal I guess, but that means the chiller isnt scheduled to show up for another 10 days or so. ARG! Specs on the chiller are that the output temp of the coolant is within 0.06C of what the chiller is set at. Regardless, I will definitely keep an eye on it as far as condensation. Only issue I see with dielectric is how it will mess up all the pins on the motherboard as there is no way you are going to get it out once its in there. I also have some custom water cooled Broadwell and Haswell systems, so might as well try the chiller out there as well.
     
  10. Jorona

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    Why not go with one of the TR water blocks?
     
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    Eh, thats really an adapted cold plate. The water path/jetting isn't changed.

    You have to remember that TR's dies are not in the middle of the heat spreader. That EK block is setup for a die that is in the center. I'm pretty sure XSPC and Bykski have made blocks designed for TR.
     
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    Ahh, now I see what you are saying. The EKWB does have a water channel that covers the CPU dies in much the same way the XSPC does. In the end, I dont think getting the heat into the block is going to be an issue but I also dont have any first hand experience with Threadripper up to this point so anything could happen.

    EDIT: Thought I would add this info:
    The primary goal in designing the new EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper™ Edition water block was to cover the entire IHS of the newly released HEDT AMD® Ryzen™ Threadripper™ processor. With a dense micro-fin structure the EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper™ Edition water block offers the best possible cooling performance! The water block uses award-winning EK-Supremacy EVO cooling engine with specialized jet insert and jet plate combination to ensure best possible cooling for X399 chipset based CPUs.
     
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  15. Khahhblaab

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    Kidding you are, you must be.
    Overclocker's we are.
    New build you have.
    2x Titan XP's.
    For us, interest is good.
    Thank you, we do.


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    Yes, please......H2 R2.
     
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    Are you in the US? Hope you live somewhere where the electric rates are low. The chiller on its own draws 660W @ 220V. Seems quite high to me. Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to your build! Best of luck!
     
  18. H2R2P2

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    Yes, I am in the US but electricity rates in my area top out at $0.10 per KWH so its not much of an issue. I was also thinking about making the system easily switched between traditional radiator/fan style cooling and the chiller either though a valve or simply using quick disconnect (Koolance) fittings.
     
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    I'm surprised to see you gave EK some of your money after the way they treated Kyle.

    I'll be avoiding them for quite a while.
     
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    That's horseshit marketing. All they did was lengthen the cold plate. Its jetting and micro fin structure is still setup for a single central die. It's even oriented incorrectly in most of their marketing shots. The XSPC has the jet centralized going parallel with the TR dies, and the micro fins then extend down onto the dies. I'd be willing to bet the XSPC block cools better than the EK block.

    Also, XSPC tends to be less bastards as a company.
     
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    Claps hands!! And nods!
     
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    Sounds like South Central Texas? The ability to switch between the chiller and standard water cooling sounds like a neat idea. Some solenoid valves to divert the water flow and some relays to switch off the chiller and switch on your internal pump and fans would be cool. Wiring the chiller might be a bit of a pain if it is remotely installed but not too bad.
     
  23. H2R2P2

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    I am actually in Seattle and while the general cost of living is very high, the one good thing is relatively cheap electricity (thanks to hydroelectric). Yeah, in theory there are several interesting ways to approach the use of standard water cooling with the ability to switch to cooler on demand. I will most likely take the ghetto way at first just to get a feel for it then progress in sophistication as needed. :)
     
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    I dont have any loyalties one way or the other. The only negative I have heard on the XSPC is the mounting mechanism. Granted Kyle does seem to "break" a lot of things during his testing, the mounting of the block is probably the most important aspect of a cooler and I dont want a "prototype" mounting mechanism. If this has been fixed, I would have no problem going that route (especially since its cheaper; not to mention the lack of availability of the EKWB is holding up my chiller being shipped).
     
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    Not frugal enough for me. :) That said, this build is drool worthy. :D
     
  26. H2R2P2

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    Agreed. Frugal it is not. :) But you only live once....
     
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    Updates required! This is a beast of a compy!
     
  28. H2R2P2

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    The motherboard and CPU showed up today. Was digging through some stuff and found an old H60 which does work with the bracket they provide with the CPU. While its horribly undersized, I am going to throw it on there and see what happens. :) I'll report back later today and let everyone know what happens. I will also take a couple pics for everyone.
     
  29. tangoseal

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    Block is still under dev. Give then time to make the fix.
     
  30. H2R2P2

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    Absolutely agree with you. I have never used anything from EKWB or XSPC before so I was only going off information I could find specific to their Threadripper blocks. I hope they do get a good mounting mechanism figured out as it does look like these CPU's need the cooling! The only brands I have used for blocks up to now have been Koolance (other than ones I have created myself).
     
  31. mnewxcv

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    you call that all out?









    me too.
     
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    Be careful...
    I already praised Him BUT!!! It's not real and it's not real [H] w/o pictures... so get them posted soon Ha
     
  33. H2R2P2

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    OK- time for a brief update. First off, getting the CPU installed was weird. Putting the CPU into the "holder" and securing that portion to the motherboard (by clicking it into place) was easy. Getting the 3 screws to start threading onto the motherboard was a different story. I had to apply a decent amount of constant pressure to get the threads to engage. I lifted and re-checked the CPU several times and everything was fine. I have not seen anyone use this motherboard yet; maybe the threads arent quite long enough?!?! Regardless, I was able to get them secured, but it took a little bit of time and was a bit nerve wracking.

    I pillaged parts from stuff I had sitting around with the hopes of getting it set up, but I dont have a power supply that has two 8 ping connectors handy. I believe the permanent power supply I ordered is slated to arrive Friday, so I may use two separate PSU's just to get it running but need to dig around a little bit.

    I installed two 1TB 960 Pro's into the RAM slot style NVME card, then installed a 950 Pro into the 3rd NVME slot. Reason I used the 950 (temporarily) was I wanted to be able to tell which slot was which in the UEFI. I have some more 1TB 960 Pro's around here so will most likely use all 960 Pro's in the final system. My P3608 is currently in another system along with my Titan XP's, so those will get moved soon. For the time being I threw in a Vega 64. I have another Vega 64 in another system, so maybe I will use 2x Titan XP's and 2x Vega 64's?? That would be fun! :)

    I also decided to pick up a larger cooler locally rather than use the H80i I had sitting around. Again, this will just be needed until my water block and chiller arrive.. :)

    Misc pics:

    WP_20170823_22_32_21_Pro.jpg

    WP_20170823_23_27_57_Pro.jpg

    WP_20170824_00_05_45_Pro.jpg
     
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    Update 2: The system is alive! Updating the BIOS right now, then getting Windows installed.
     
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    Is that RoG Dimm thing for m2 over DDR4 as google says? That's quite unusual and I wonder if it goes via CPU or another chipset... interesting.
    Looking good so far!

    I guess you decided to try out Vega it seems. Nice to have an all AMD build for meanwhile!
     
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    Watching this tread is like reading an old issue of Maximum PC where they would go all out and build their annual Dream Machine for a boat load of money. This is fun to follow, but I am glad someone else is footing the bill!
     
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    This is a pretty awesome build, but what kind of workloads are you going to be running on this machine?
     
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  39. H2R2P2

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    I run a couple full nodes for Crypto-currencies and appox a dozen or so additional VM's (some with databases). I also like to game when I have time, but I have all 4K screens so need power even if the game isnt really all that demanding. I admit this is even overkill for what I *need*, especially since I still have numerous other high end systems, but I have always wanted to mess with a chiller and once Threadripper came out, I knew I had my test subject. Lets be honest here.... If you use a chiller on your CPU, you cant be "average" on everything else... :)
     
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  40. H2R2P2

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    Yes, the motherboard has a modified DDR style slot with a card you can attach two NVME drives on to which runs over DDR4.I will take a look in the manual and see if I can find if it describes exactly which chip the data goes through, but yeah it was one of the features that made this board stand out. Not 100% sure I will keep the 2x Vega 64's in here permanently or not. I originally intended to use 2x Titan XP's and still most likely will as my main display I normally use is G-Sync. Having said that, I do have a couple Freesync displays I could use if it turns out this runs complete circles around my overclocked Broadwell-E system.